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Mac Pro ($3800 model) on sale for $2500 at Best Buy and Amazon. (Merged)

I did post this in distributed computing but -

Would this 12 core setup be good for grid computing?
 
I bought it too, we shall see how this goes. Worst that can happen I bring it back to my best buy store. I am a heavy Photoshop and Lightroom user using a Mac Pro 1,1 still soooo, I may keep it if it is a legitimate 12 core.
 
I also have a 1,1 that I upgraded to 8 core 2.66. Regardless, shouldn't this still smoke my 1,1? Also, think the error was it was supposed to be $3499 instead of $2499??
 
macpro2000 said:
I also have a 1,1 that I upgraded to 8 core 2.66. Regardless, shouldn't this still smoke my 1,1? Also, think the error was it was supposed to be $3499 instead of $2499??
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Yes it should.. according to the out of date PS test in this forum. its about 40% faster on that action. Now for Video Renders, with programs that can utilize all cores, Premier and AE I believe do, it would destroy our 1,1s.

Also, at 16gb ram I am paging out all the time. So its an extra benefit for me to have this machine.
 
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As far as I know, Apple gives announcements for any price reductions or promos to its Apple resellers. Or for any discounts, it has to be approved by Apple first as this is part of the reseller-distributor agreement.
 
macpro2000 said:
I also have a 1,1 that I upgraded to 8 core 2.66. Regardless, shouldn't this still smoke my 1,1? Also, think the error was it was supposed to be $3499 instead of $2499??
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In the same boat. Jump on this deal or keep waiting...
 
Tutor, I appreciate your willingness to show me the way. If this mac pro does show up, I'm definitely interested in swapping out the processors.



Tutor said:
Sounds like you've got some shepherd in you. Correct - I'm saying that you can swap the two processors for two much faster 3.3 GHz 6-core processors, and use the remaining two processors to (1) build another computer or two or (2) just sell them on E-bay or elsewhere to lower your total cost of ownership or to help fund further upgrades to the new system. If you need any help with the process, just let me know. For information regarding upgrading the Mac Pro, see post #1 [I. Modifying an Intel Mac Pro : 5) Mac Pro 5,1] here: [ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1333421/ ]. Just note that you should also read subsection 4) Mac Pro 4,1, but that some of those requirements will not apply because it's much more easier to upgrade the processors in a Mac Pro 5,1. For information regarding building your own system(s), see post #1 [II. Building your own system] here: [ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1333421/ ]. Actually you could use one the processors to build a single processor system, or both processors to build two single processor systems or use both to build a dual processor system. The choice is yours. How a shepherd grows his/her flock depends on the shepherd's needs.
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JesterJJZ said:
In the same boat. Jump on this deal or keep waiting...
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I would go for it...you can easily sell this for the same amount of money or even close to it. Pop in an SSD for the OS and you'll easily sell the system for the same price.
 
In my case, Adobe needs to jump on board of using all available cores... I really hope the next iteration of CS this will be achieved in all their programs. :/
 
ssls6 said:
I think the usual sign is a stretch out of ship times because they are drawing down inventory. This could be a sign of demand weakening and not an availability issue.
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I can't believe there was any demand. I've never seen a Mac Pro at Best Buy.
 
That does seem really cheap! Those base models aren't that impressive but are actually the cheapest place to start if you are upgrading parts yourself.

The first post in this thread by Tutor was the singular most valuable burst of information that anyone could take on board.

Just beware that there are pros and cons to building your own system, and it's not always smooth sailing. However you could not hope for a better teacher if Tutor will be helping you. I just never asked because he seems like a very busy person :)
 
wondering if upgrade resellers (like OWC) will eventually offer "turnkey" upgrades for this model for upgrading the processor trays with some sort of warranty offering. unfortunately, buying CPU parts for an upgrade to be performed individually is a really hard sell for many corporate folks...
 
GXPvince said:
In my case, Adobe needs to jump on board of using all available cores... I really hope the next iteration of CS this will be achieved in all their programs. :/
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at some point, they probably will... I'm just not sure we'll see it in the next CS6.5 release.

I do think a lot depends on the future of the MacPro as to what they decide to do moving forward with devoting resources to high end Mac processing. Apple has made it clear in the past they're not giving Adobe any head's up on what their plans are. if upgrades to CPUs and GPUs are only going to become a user-based initiative, then there's not necessarily a mass market they can count on.
 
handheldgames said:
With Bestbuy blowing out inventory:
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Blowing out old inventory. If look at the web page and specs these models have OS X Lion on them. That means these are boxes they have been sitting on since before late July-August when new ones from Apple would have had OS X Mountain Lion on them.

It would be time to dump these whether a new one was coming or not. ( if have been sitting in a warehouse since late June 2012 and haven't sold them.... they need to move. They appear to be from the initial allotment of 2012 Mac Pros ... probably their only allotment. )

The problem for Best Buy is that I don't think folks even know they carry these. They aren't in any BB I've been to ( more than several). You can do a "ship to store" but I doubt the in store specialist even try to pitch them all that much ( to be fair don't think a Apple store folks would pitch them much either unless asked. )

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brentsg said:
I can't believe there was any demand. I've never seen a Mac Pro at Best Buy.
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Putting them on display wouldn't necessarily make them move faster. Not many folks come to BB to buy a $2500+ computer. (go to the other computer's section and see if there is anything like there either). I suppose it is your only choice if the nearest Apple reseller or Apple store is 70 miles away but those aren't going to be high volume locations anyway.

Coupled to a monstrous 27" display it makes for a ton of display space for very low turn over.
 
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ABCDEF-Hex said:
Would this 12 core setup be good for grid computing?
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Yes it would. I used to crunch with a 2008 octo. Did a great job. Built a dual 2.93 westmere system to crunch with, plus some video editing. Would consider this if I didn't already have a nice one already. Just hope BB doesn't pull the rug out on folks who jumped on this. Would suggest anyone to take a picture of the ad for proof in the event BB does deny. Might come in handy. Good luck to those who jumped. Let us know if you get it. You could build one a little cheaper but it would be tight. Those processors are $394 @newegg.
BTW, I crunch at www.worldcommunitygrid.org to help find cures for diseases. If you can, please join if your not crunching already. Every core counts. Don't need a monster computer to help.
 
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Ccrew said:
I'm seeing the 12 core Mac Pro for $2499
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Perhaps the BestBuy web pages are stale but if look at the specs these boxes are shipping with OS X Lion(10.7) . That would mean these are pre 10.8 , 2012 Mac Pros. In short, that is indicative that Best Buy basicaly haven't sold any. That this is 8+ month old inventory that needs to be dumped.


nigelbb said:
I think that the price is legit. They are probably just dumping inventory in anticipation of the imminent launch of the new MacPro. OK maybe just dumping inventory:) It's not like it's a crazy price like $999 it's about a 30% reduction on the price that B&H are asking for the exact same model.
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A "problem" for Amazon, B&H, and others is if they have "price matching" programs. If BestBuy starts dumping they have to move to match until BB finishes.

Maybe this is some kind of "peace" offering from Apple due to the colossal clusterF*ck that the new Mac Pro release process right now, but seems more likely this is just BB unloading something they kind of didn't want to sell in the first place.
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Maybe Amazon folks update web pages more but their models come with Mountain Lion. If BB's aren't there actually is a bit of a difference (and these other places have actually moved some Mac Pros over the last 8 months. ;) )
 
Thanks for the advice -

bearcatrp said:
Yes it would. I used to crunch with a 2008 octo. Did a great job. Built a dual 2.93 westmere system to crunch with, plus some video editing. Would consider this if I didn't already have a nice one already. Just hope BB doesn't pull the rug out on folks who jumped on this. Would suggest anyone to take a picture of the ad for proof in the event BB does deny. Might come in handy. Good luck to those who jumped. Let us know if you get it. You could build one a little cheaper but it would be tight. Those processors are $394 @newegg.
BTW, I crunch at www.worldcommunitygrid.org to help find cures for diseases. If you can, please join if your not crunching already. Every core counts. Don't need a monster computer to help.
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I posted the same question on Dist. Computing (where it probably belongs) but it wasn't answered. I just got back into crunching for Team NC on WCG.
I used to crunch in my pre-Mac days. Using 2 iMac core 2 duo's currently and paranoid about overheating. Thanks again.
 
deconstruct60 said:
Perhaps the BestBuy web pages are stale but if look at the specs these boxes are shipping with OS X Lion(10.7) . That would mean these are pre 10.8 , 2012 Mac Pros. In short, that is indicative that Best Buy basicaly haven't sold any. That this is 8+ month old inventory that needs to be dumped.
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Interestingly enough though, if you look at the Apple refurb store the same machine spec's with Lion also. But is eligible for UpToDate..

And is $3239 in the refurb store..

http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD771LL/A/refurbished-mac-pro-24ghz-12-core-intel-xeon-2012


I have shipping notification for mine, but no tracking yet. I'm clearly getting *something*
 
E5645 price ?

bearcatrp said:
Yes it would. I used to crunch with a 2008 octo. Did a great job. Built a dual 2.93 westmere system to crunch with, plus some video editing. Would consider this if I didn't already have a nice one already. Just hope BB doesn't pull the rug out on folks who jumped on this. Would suggest anyone to take a picture of the ad for proof in the event BB does deny. Might come in handy. Good luck to those who jumped. Let us know if you get it. You could build one a little cheaper but it would be tight. Those processors are $394 @newegg.
BTW, I crunch at www.worldcommunitygrid.org to help find cures for diseases. If you can, please join if your not crunching already. Every core counts. Don't need a monster computer to help.
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It looks like the E5620 is $394 at Newegg but the E5645 is $574.
 
Ccrew said:
Interestingly enough though, if you look at the Apple refurb store the same machine spec's with Lion also. But is eligible for UpToDate..
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Apple tends to put the image the machine sold with back onto the refurbs as a going forward starting place unless so old not getting updates anymore. Since the older system image is being sold after Apple announced Mountain Lion, they are eligible for the update.

The notion is that these aren't the "newest" since they are refurbs so not trying to install the "latest system image". And some folks looking at refurb and used are actually looking to run an older OS X version. (although OS X Lion was more of a transition and not particularly better than Mountain Lion at very much at all. )


A refurb 2011 iMac or mini will be in the same "eligible for Mountain Lion OS X" state. The 2012 ones for those all came after Mountain Lion.
 
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