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No, he's not saying that the update is no big deal. He's saying that to hack every update is easy and comes soon after the release. And he's right. I've been following the file trail and so for, for the past one year or so, as soon as Apple distributes an update the hack install comes out within 24 hours - that included every beta and official version of SL too.

you do realize there are multitudes of platforms right. i have done enough point upgrades to say from expereince they can be a pain in the ass

That's of course if you even need them. Many hacks once installed and set up correctly don't even need the new hack-files, and can just DL the updates directly from Apple's Software Update without a hitch.

You could not be more wrong. There have only been few updates that you can get with no issues at all
I don't have a hackintosh (yet) but that's what I'm seeing and reading. With the current prices Apple is asking I will be upgrading to a hackintosh.

It is evident you don't have a hackintosh:cool:

As someone who has one, built exclusivley for a hackintosh, and has had it for over a year and a half, i think i know the issues as believe me, i have had to deal with EACH and EVERY point upgrade.....and yes, some are a major hassle
 
If you use a popular and well supported/documented motherboard, and don't have to be the first kid on the block to have each new point release the risks are mitigated quite a bit.

I just priced out an i7 system on newegg with high quality parts and for the same price as the base 2.66 system from Apple (around $2200 from BHPhoto) I get:
3.06GHz processor
12GB RAM
1TB HD
Blu-Ray burner
GTX 285 Graphics card
Much more expandability (lots of open SATA and PCI slots)

Granted it has FW400 vs 800 since the PC world really doesn't care about firewire, but that can easily be added if needed.

I am still on the fence regarding my next computer purchase, but as it stands the hackintosh route is hard to ignore.
 
As someone who has one, built exclusivley for a hackintosh, and has had it for over a year and a half, i think i know the issues as believe me, i have had to deal with EACH and EVERY point upgrade.....and yes, some are a major hassle

Well, OK. There's you that says that. And for every hackintosh owner like you there's one posting that says if you do it a certain way then there's no trouble at all and Apple Update can be used - no fuss, no muss.

You did it one way, they did it another. Your way needs to "deal with EACH and EVERY point upgrade", theirs doesn't. Haven't you read the same things? Surely you must have?
 
Well, OK. There's you that says that. And for every hackintosh owner like you there's one posting that says if you do it a certain way then there's no trouble at all and Apple Update can be used - no fuss, no muss.

You did it one way, they did it another. Your way needs to "deal with EACH and EVERY point upgrade", theirs doesn't. Haven't you read the same things? Surely you must have?
This is my take on it. There's more than one way to get a Hackintosh up and running, and the method will make a lot of difference it seems. That's what I've gotten out of the various forums anyway. ;)
 
Well, OK. There's you that says that. And for every hackintosh owner like you there's one posting that says if you do it a certain way then there's no trouble at all and Apple Update can be used - no fuss, no muss.

You did it one way, they did it another. Your way needs to "deal with EACH and EVERY point upgrade", theirs doesn't. Haven't you read the same things? Surely you must have?

Find me a hackintosh owner who has had easy upgrades every time and never had to reinstall the os due to kp or has never had issues with sound, sleep, opening dmg's, using over 4 gig ram, dvd burners, usb issues and I will revoke my statment

Fact is most have had to do countless installs to get things working perfect as a wrong kext will eff up your system

Remember, I picked out components that were known to be very compatible with 10.5 when i bought the parts

Didn't make it anyless aggravating at times

I hope you don't experience any of these issues but theres a 100% chance you will in one way or another

With that said, some upgrades are very easy to do as in no effort at all.
 
This is my take on it. There's more than one way to get a Hackintosh up and running, and the method will make a lot of difference it seems. That's what I've gotten out of the various forums anyway. ;)

Yup, that's the deal.

Find me a hackintosh owner...

I'm your nanny now? :) Your search button doesn't work? :D If I read it in every hackintosh thread here and on many or all of the hackintosh specific sites I guess it's not hard to pull up in a search.
 
With a Hackintosh you are only guaranteed it works with that version you are buying.

I own a Dell Mini 9 with SL on it and yes, it's not as care free or as hassle free as a real Mac but considering it was $215 or so I can really live with it.

A Hackintosh is useful if it's your secondary computer or in my case just something to use on the toilet or during lunch breaks, because it's secondary I don't tend to worry about dot updates. The only drawback is that sometimes software requires up to a certain dot update... One thing you can do is buy a certain hardware setup find people with the same, and then it's a lot easier to deal with dot updates or even new OS updates.

I go back and forth on it, on one hand I'm paying less then an iMac and I'd be getting Mac Pro like power, but on the other I can't see the hassle being worth it, I'd rather just run Windows 7 if it's as good as it's claimed.
 
Anyone know if you could put a 4870 in there instead of a 9800gtx without any additional hassles? What makes this build so attractive is that after you set up the boot loader it seems to be pretty easy, no custom drivers aside from the audio, etc, would switching to a 4870 change any of that?
 
lol be sure to post your experience when you make one and how hassle free you find it......

I have a UD3P with USB audio and had no issues going 10.5.6 to 10.5.7 to 10.5.8.

I'm using 10.6.1 right now. No problems with that upgrade. :)

It really comes down 100% to choosing the right components and installing the correct extensions and configuring the necessary plists correctly. Do it right from the get go and you should have an effortless time with your Hackintosh.
 
Anyone know if you could put a 4870 in there instead of a 9800gtx without any additional hassles? What makes this build so attractive is that after you set up the boot loader it seems to be pretty easy, no custom drivers aside from the audio, etc, would switching to a 4870 change any of that?

You don't want to use an ATI card if you have the option; a GTX 260 works perfectly with an EFI string and is a but more powerful than the 4870. I'd go with it.
 
Sorry to be a tiny bit of an ass, but...

Find me a hackintosh owner who has had easy upgrades every time and never had to reinstall the os due to kp or has never had issues with sound, sleep, opening dmg's, using over 4 gig ram, dvd burners, usb issues and I will revoke my statment

Every one of these save the DMG mounting issues are directly caused by the motherboard. Selecting a poorly supported board will nearly ruin your chances of sucess. (I suggest the Ga-EP45-UD3P.)

BTW, 10.6 -> 10.6.1 is apparently as smooth as a baby's butt on hackintoshes.


Fact is most have had to do countless installs to get things working perfect as a wrong kext will eff up your system

It is standard operating procedures to do a bit to bit backup of your OS X partitions the second you get it working. If you do end up torpedoing your install with a misplaced kext, bing bang boom and 30 minutes of rewriting later, you are good to try again. Not that bad.

Remember, I picked out components that were known to be very compatible with 10.5 when i bought the parts

Right, so don't complain now that we are dealing with up to 10.5.6, or 10.6.1. Your parts are aging, but you will still have relatively good luck for a while yet.

Didn't make it anyless aggravating at times

Of course it didn't. We are not meant to do this, and you can bet Apple has been putting a good deal of effort to stop us. So unless you are a frontline hacker, just take a backseat and thank the pioneers.

I hope you don't experience any of these issues but theres a 100% chance you will in one way or another

No such thing as 100% chance. :D Like I said, we are not meant to do this, so we will have problems at some point, ALWAYS.

With that said, some upgrades are very easy to do as in no effort at all.
Indeed.

For me, a Senior in high school graduating and then coming back for a victory lap next year, it is more fiscally responsible for me to get a hackintosh, so it is different for everyone. Apple is better than other hardware manufacturers, so if you can afford it, always go for the real thing.
 
I think it's a mistake to think Apple is superior. In 2006, 2007, and 2008 they had a pretty good price|performance ratio. But they didn't have "the best" design or even the best hardware even then. Apple is primarily a software house and at that they rock! At hardware not so much. Their cases and form designs are very nice tho! Their motherboards are pretty much by Intel. Nothing much under the hood of an Apple has much to do with Apple at all.
 
You don't want to use an ATI card if you have the option; a GTX 260 works perfectly with an EFI string and is a but more powerful than the 4870. I'd go with it.

Well the reason I was interested in the 4870 was that it could be gotten for basically the same price as the 9800gtx he used. What's the problem with ATI cards?
 
Find me a hackintosh owner who has had easy upgrades every time
I have since 10.5.2- maybe 10.5.6 might count as 'not easy' since I skipped it on my main Hack due to problems I saw others having. I didn't miss it one bit, as I saw nothing it offered over 10.5.5 anyway, and then with 10.5.7 (which was a breeze) it was moot anyway.
and never had to reinstall the os due to kp or has never had issues with sound, sleep, opening dmg's, using over 4 gig ram, dvd burners, usb issues and I will revoke my statment
Start revoking. I don't even know what would cause problems with half of that stuff. (Opening dmgs?)

No DVD burner has caused me any problems, nor do I see that any big issue with other Hack users.

USB issues? like what? None here. That could just be bad hardware.

I haven't had to reinstall the OS unless I wanted to.

Sound is an 'issue' for all of the two minutes it takes to patch it. If the onboard audio is really a consistent issue, then one can use an $8 USB sound adapter that actually sounds better anyway, is driverless, and presents no problems with any OS.

Over 4GB of RAM is simply a limitation of the motherboard. One can simply get a mobo that takes 8GB or 16GB, etc depending on budget and need. If there's any actual 'issue' with using more than 4GB of RAM, I haven't heard of it. (Briefly, in the early days of retail installs, I recall an issue with some boards using over 2GB of RAM- but that was brief, and long since fixed.)

Fact is most have had to do countless installs to get things working perfect as a wrong kext will eff up your system
It'd be foolish to do 'countless installs'. One simply has to realize "Hey, I'm using a Hack, not a real Mac", and then follow a few rules accordingly.

First off, the 'a kext can kill your OS' thing: If that's the case, then the solution is bone simple- create a backup partition of at least 12GB- it can be on any drive, including the main drive- and either clone the OS or do a second install of OSX on it. OSX doesn't care how many times the same OS is installed on the same system, or even on partitions of the same hard drive. It's like putting together 2+2 to realize you can use this fact to your infinite advantage, and all it costs is the 12GB or so for a backup install.

Use each install to label the system/library/extensions folder of the other. (Hey, it's OSX, with nifty features like file labels. Why not USE these features to one's advantage?)

Now do any questionable update or kext install on the backup install with a labeled system folder. If it doesn't boot? Guess what? Open the system folder from the OTHER install, and... oh gee- there's a kext or two in there WITHOUT A LABEL. Let's scratch our heads of for a moment figuring out which kexts we'd then remove and have the system back to the exact same state of pristine it was before.

On the other hand- if the install goes perfectly, we now know it's safe to apply the same kext on the main install. (And also give it a different label, so we know that kext(s) was added after the main set).

A simple procedure like this -done every so often as needed, not just willy-nilly on an otherwise perfectly working system- will keep things running pretty effortlessly. It just requires a little thought first, not pretending every little thing will be exactly the way Apple would do it.



Remember, I picked out components that were known to be very compatible with 10.5 when i bought the parts

Didn't make it anyless aggravating at times
Rather than just declare everyone's experience as the same though, consider that people just work out ways around things, knowing that the possibility exists. In the end, it makes life a whole lot easier- following just my own backup rule above, my main Hack has had no down-time since July 2008 when I first built it. Currently I'm at 10.5.8 with no issues- just I haven't yet installed Snow Leopard. Granted,that probably will present a pretty good challenge since some things have changed, but I recall that Leopard itself was the same way when it first came out.
 
Start revoking. I don't even know what would cause problems with half of that stuff. (Opening dmgs?)


yea, just search "seatbelt kext"
No DVD burner has caused me any problems, nor do I see that any big issue with other Hack users.

Well for starters if you have an IDE optical drive, SL doesnt support it (Leopard did)
USB issues? like what? None here. That could just be bad hardware.

such as hot plugging, uplug and replug and it wont work...... need to always make sure syetm and kernel kexts are the same (esp if running voodoo)
I haven't had to reinstall the OS unless I wanted to.

by wanted, you mean if you wanted to upgrade and then hit roadblocks right ;)
Sound is an 'issue' for all of the two minutes it takes to patch it. If the onboard audio is really a consistent issue, then one can use an $8 USB sound adapter that actually sounds better anyway, is driverless, and presents no problems with any OS.

depends on the board
Over 4GB of RAM is simply a limitation of the motherboard. One can simply get a mobo that takes 8GB or 16GB, etc depending on budget and need. If there's any actual 'issue' with using more than 4GB of RAM, I haven't heard of it. (Briefly, in the early days of retail installs, I recall an issue with some boards using over 2GB of RAM- but that was brief, and long since fixed.)

ooooooor achi needs patched for your board

mine had support up to 8 gigs yet anything over 4 would cause it to kp without the kext
It'd be foolish to do 'countless installs'. One simply has to realize "Hey, I'm using a Hack, not a real Mac", and then follow a few rules accordingly.

what rules exactly? that there may be difficulties? such as the ones im explaining?
First off, the 'a kext can kill your OS' thing: If that's the case, then the solution is bone simple- create a backup partition of at least 12GB- it can be on any drive, including the main drive- and either clone the OS or do a second install of OSX on it. OSX doesn't care how many times the same OS is installed on the same system, or even on partitions of the same hard drive. It's like putting together 2+2 to realize you can use this fact to your infinite advantage, and all it costs is the 12GB or so for a backup install.

Use each install to label the system/library/extensions folder of the other. (Hey, it's OSX, with nifty features like file labels. Why not USE these features to one's advantage?)

oh i have learned to keep a ccc backup and a time machine of my hack for sure and have been for a while

i have to ask why on earth you are installing kexts to S/L/E though as opposed to using chameon which makes it a load easier keeping track of your kexts and leaves you S/L/E alone
Now do any questionable update or kext install on the backup install with a labeled system folder. If it doesn't boot? Guess what? Open the system folder from the OTHER install, and... oh gee- there's a kext or two in there WITHOUT A LABEL. Let's scratch our heads of for a moment figuring out which kexts we'd then remove and have the system back to the exact same state of pristine it was before.

On the other hand- if the install goes perfectly, we now know it's safe to apply the same kext on the main install. (And also give it a different label, so we know that kext(s) was added after the main set).

A simple procedure like this -done every so often as needed, not just willy-nilly on an otherwise perfectly working system- will keep things running pretty effortlessly. It just requires a little thought first, not pretending every little thing will be exactly the way Apple would do it.




Rather than just declare everyone's experience as the same though, consider that people just work out ways around things, knowing that the possibility exists. In the end, it makes life a whole lot easier- following just my own backup rule above, my main Hack has had no down-time since July 2008 when I first built it. Currently I'm at 10.5.8 with no issues- just I haven't yet installed Snow Leopard. Granted,that probably will present a pretty good challenge since some things have changed, but I recall that Leopard itself was the same way when it first came out.




Remember, most of these issues have quick fixes, yes

HOWEVER, my point is that you have to painstakingly experience them if you have no clue what you are doing or are new to the hackintosh scene. just have to learn from your mistakes

Once you know what to do, its easy to get one running. However, it is almost impossible to se every scenario on insanely mac concerning your set up

in any event, one should not expect their hackintosh to be as "easy" an experience as an apple computer....obviously

you will learn a ton though which makes it worthwhile to me at least
 
yea, just search "seatbelt kext"
Take a look at this, as it might help with the issue.

It could be considered a PITA, but I think it depends on the methodology used to make the Hack, as mentioned previously (i.e. iatkos <earlier method~2005> vs. EFI emulation+Vanilla Kernel).

Well for starters if you have an IDE optical drive, SL doesnt support it (Leopard did)
That's Apple's fault though. :eek: It would affect '06 - 08' MP's too. :p


depends on the board
Assuming you wish to use the on-board audio chip, it will depend on the actual component used. But most boards do use similar parts (from a small range), in order to make budget on production costs. Better chips may exist, but are esoteric comparitively speaking (far less common), and would be harder to get working (fewer people with it = fewer people working on a solution). Or in the instance a newer part is released, and hasn't become common just yet (earliest board maker/s to release products using it).

So worst case, you may be stuck skipping it, and going with another solution, or loose sound until a solution is developed. In the later case listed above, patience will likely pay off. :)

HOWEVER, my point is that you have to painstakingly experience them if you have no clue what you are doing or are new to the hackintosh scene. just have to learn from your mistakes
Once you know what to do, its easy to get one running.

However, it is almost impossible to se every scenario on insanely mac concerning your set up

in any event, one should not expect their hackintosh to be as "easy" an experience as an apple computer....obviously
Definitely. ;)

you will learn a ton though which makes it worthwhile to me at least
And that's were the fun is, if one enjoys such things. :D
 
yea, just search "seatbelt kext"
Never heard of it. Built literally dozens of hacks- all of them still going strong, owners all loving them and still using them. Why should I care about something I've never run across?

Well for starters if you have an IDE optical drive, SL doesnt support it (Leopard did)
It's been common knowledge for ages in the OSx86 world: DO NOT USE IDE. IDE causes problems. Stick with SATA. As I've said over and over- all of this applies WITH SUPPORTED HARDWARE.


such as hot plugging, uplug and replug and it wont work...... need to always make sure syetm and kernel kexts are the same (esp if running voodoo)
Again- no wonder. If you're running hacked kernels like voodoo, then you get what you get. I'm talking about retail/vanilla installs only, not distros or hacked kernels.

Let me guess, next you'll drop the AMD rather than Intel bomb on us. ;)


by wanted, you mean if you wanted to upgrade and then hit roadblocks right ;)
No, but it's odd how you want to insist that your bad experiences are shared by everyone else. Wanted, meaning: I've reinstalled because I've completely redone a system because I wanted to, having learned a better method. IE: when I first moved beyond distro installs to full retail. Not because I had to, or because of an upgrade. I'll probably redo my system when I move up to SL as well. Again, not because anything is wrong with my 10.5.8 install, but simply because I want SL!

Did you happen, by some random chance, to read anything I said about how to test an upgrade before you'd ever apply it to a main install? Why would an upgrade ever cause me a roadblock when there's a bone-simple way of avoiding it that I just outlined?

It's silly to insist things are other people's experiences just because they may be yours.


ooooooor achi needs patched for your board
AHCI is a SATA mode, not anything to do with 4 or 8 GB of RAM.

mine had support up to 8 gigs yet anything over 4 would cause it to kp without the kext
What board are you using, and what install method? If it's some funky hardware requiring the voodoo kernel, I'm amazed you'd present that as if it were a vanilla/retail install, and therefore typical.


what rules exactly?
*sigh*

I don't mean this as an insult, truly, but I really think you'd do best to stay away from Hackintoshing. It's not for everyone. It does take a little bit of tech-saavy, and a little bit of planning ahead and knowing what it is you're actually doing. You're not running a Mac from Apple, you're running OSX on unsupported hardware. People can butt their head against a wall and declare "It doesn't work!!" all they want, but the fact is, it does- it just requires a modest amount of knowing what you're doing and following the 'rules' of OSx86. If you even have to ask 'what rules exactly?' then all I can say is- STICK WITH APPLE and forget about a Hackintosh. Really. Just don't present your experiences as typical of everyone else.


i have to ask why on earth you are installing kexts to S/L/E though as opposed to using chameon which makes it a load easier keeping track of your kexts and leaves you S/L/E alone
Let's not forget, I'm not the one having all sorts of problems. Chameleon's Extra folder doesn't always work for every possible system kext. Many things simply won't load properly from an mkext. If you're constantly having to reinstall/ deal with KPs as you say you are -and yet I'm not- perhaps another thing to consider...?

you will learn a ton though which makes it worthwhile to me at least
Well... hopefully. ;)
 
Take a look at this, as it might help with the issue.

thanks though I have long since solved it lol. Just sharing problem I had experienced at some point
It could be considered a PITA, but I think it depends on the methodology used to make the Hack, as mentioned previously (i.e. iatkos <earlier method~2005> vs. EFI emulation+Vanilla Kernel).
true, when i first staretd, the use of Kalyway was the prefeered method
then i did boot 132 with leopard on the startup disk

my SL install is the cleanest yet (using a seperate partion so i do not touch the start up volume, and enabling alot of support as in graphics and what not through the dsdt itself as opposed to iffy nvinject and stuff)
That's Apple's fault though. :eek: It would affect '06 - 08' MP's too. :p
its a pain though i have found a fix
Assuming you wish to use the on-board audio chip, it will depend on the actual component used. But most boards do use similar parts (from a small range), in order to make budget on production costs. Better chips may exist, but are esoteric comparitively speaking (far less common), and would be harder to get working (fewer people with it = fewer people working on a solution). Or in the instance a newer part is released, and hasn't become common just yet (earliest board maker/s to release products using it).

So worst case, you may be stuck skipping it, and going with another solution, or loose sound until a solution is developed. In the later case listed above, patience will likely pay off. :)

true that


And that's were the fun is, if one enjoys such things. :D
its only fun when you dont need the computer or werent planning on downtime lol:p

Never heard of it. Built literally dozens of hacks- all of them still going strong, owners all loving them and still using them. Why should I care about something I've never run across?

it is quite common

It's been common knowledge for ages in the OSx86 world: DO NOT USE IDE. IDE causes problems. Stick with SATA. As I've said over and over- all of this applies WITH SUPPORTED HARDWARE.
i agree though i did get an IDE and thus dealt with it lol
Again- no wonder. If you're running hacked kernels like voodoo, then you get what you get. I'm talking about retail/vanilla installs only, not distros or hacked kernels.

I did voodoo for fun

Im completely vanilla now
Let me guess, next you'll drop the AMD rather than Intel bomb on us. ;)

nah, i have a q6600:)


No, but it's odd how you want to insist that your bad experiences are shared by everyone else. Wanted, meaning: I've reinstalled because I've completely redone a system because I wanted to, having learned a better method. IE: when I first moved beyond distro installs to full retail. Not because I had to, or because of an upgrade. I'll probably redo my system when I move up to SL as well. Again, not because anything is wrong with my 10.5.8 install, but simply because I want SL!

i know what you mean as i have done a similar path in changing how i do installs
Did you happen, by some random chance, to read anything I said about how to test an upgrade before you'd ever apply it to a main install? Why would an upgrade ever cause me a roadblock when there's a bone-simple way of avoiding it that I just outlined?

It's silly to insist things are other people's experiences just because they may be yours.

Of course. I am merely relaying my lessons learned since first beginning the hackintosh scene 1.5-2 years ago

Do you really think someone knew is going to experience no issues at all?
AHCI is a SATA mode, not anything to do with 4 or 8 GB of RAM.

except it does
--Known Issues--
1) This happens with many motherboards. If you have 4GB of ram in dual Channel, you may get a kernel panic when ram usage peaks above 3gb(I have Kernel Panics even when not all 4gb is utilized). To fix this simply:
-Go to Terminal. Enter "sudo nano /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.Boot.plist"
-Authenticate. Add the "maxmem=3072" in between the strings under Kernel Flags
-Note* 3072(3gb) is not the magical number here. It may not be the highest you can set your ram. It seems to have stopped any kernel panics but I have not played around raising it 32mb each time and testing if i get kernel panic. If someone wants to play around and fine the Threshold and share with us, I will edit this and give you credit.
-Save and Exit

Another Fix: AHCI enabled seems to stop these problems.

as to why, ai am not exactly sure
What board are you using, and what install method? If it's some funky hardware requiring the voodoo kernel, I'm amazed you'd present that as if it were a vanilla/retail install, and therefore typical.

GA-P35-DS3L rev 2
*sigh*

I don't mean this as an insult, truly, but I really think you'd do best to stay away from Hackintoshing. It's not for everyone. It does take a little bit of tech-saavy, and a little bit of planning ahead and knowing what it is you're actually doing. You're not running a Mac from Apple, you're running OSX on unsupported hardware. People can butt their head against a wall and declare "It doesn't work!!" all they want, but the fact is, it does- it just requires a modest amount of knowing what you're doing and following the 'rules' of OSx86. If you even have to ask 'what rules exactly?' then all I can say is- STICK WITH APPLE and forget about a Hackintosh. Really. Just don't present your experiences as typical of everyone else.

uh who are you again?

I have 10.6.1 and 10.5.8 running complety perfect on my systems

I merely relayed some of the troubles I had encountered over the last 1-2 years
I solved these by tackling each issue one at a time

to suggest I stay away from hackintoshing is amusing as Im sure I am more knowledgeable than you give me credit........

my reply of "what rules" refers to you alluding that a hack involves work and knowhow....EXACTLY what I am arguing in that since its not a mac, then there is potential for hiccups on installs if you dont know what you are doing.:cool:



Let's not forget, I'm not the one having all sorts of problems. Chameleon's Extra folder doesn't always work for every possible system kext. Many things simply won't load properly from an mkext. If you're constantly having to reinstall/ deal with KPs as you say you are -and yet I'm not- perhaps another thing to consider...?

oh so wait, you are expereinceing problems with some methods? gee i thought you said you didnt expereince any...

as i said, mine are those i had encountered at some point in the past and have long since figuered them out. I mean you figured out the chamelon method didnt result in a always problem free install somehow:cool:

by the way, this method should work for every setup provided you kow what you are doing. I suggest looking more into it. Its quite powerful and capable

you will never get the full story on all the issues on insaenly mac.

making a hack requires research, research, and more research to know what to do and what not to do
[/QUOTE]:cool:
 
thanks though I have long since solved it lol. Just sharing problem I had experienced at some point
:cool:

Others are likely using newer methods though, and aren't having nearly as many issues, if any. :)

The Hackintosh community has come a long way since the "early days" it seems. :D

true, when i first staretd, the use of Kalyway was the prefeered method
then i did boot 132 with leopard on the startup disk

my SL install is the cleanest yet (using a seperate partion so i do not touch the start up volume, and enabling alot of support as in graphics and what not through the dsdt itself as opposed to iffy nvinject and stuff)
Again, evolution of methods. Whether just by what's currently available, or what one tries first. :eek: :p

its only fun when you dont need the computer or werent planning on downtime lol:p
True, but that comes under "Proper Planning". ;) :p

Another system is handy, or at least multiple OS installs. Either way, you end up with something that still works in case of disaster. :D
 
:cool:

Others are likely using newer methods though, and aren't having nearly as many issues, if any. :)

The Hackintosh community has come a long way since the "early days" it seems. :D

always good news! and yes, the methods have been getting much easier
Again, evolution of methods. Whether just by what's currently available, or what one tries first. :eek: :p

yea, i cant belive i did kalyway looking back. very crude install
True, but that comes under "Proper Planning". ;) :p

Another system is handy, or at least multiple OS installs. Either way, you end up with something that still works in case of disaster. :D
imo, another computer online is very nice to have when hacking around

ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS have backups of working installs

learnt the hard way and havent looked back
 
learnt the hard way and havent looked back
It is a hard lesson to learn that way, and not easily forgotten. ;) At least you did learn it, and keep a backup/clone around. :D

HDD's aren't that expensive anymore, and are cheaper and easier than other media. Though I am partial to USB sticks for portable storage. Especially handy if I have to physically mail it. :p
 
dukebound85, I just don't get why you were proclaiming all this about how impossible it is to run a Hackintosh without problems, when you admit to doing many of the things that are known to cause trouble.

I'm not knocking you for having gone through problems and learned from it- that's not the issue at all- it's that you seemed to be arguing as if the same 'issues' are still a completely unavoidable part of everyone's Hackintosh experience, like no methods have since moved past all of this. Yet you contradict this yourself.

So to answer your question about someone new starting out right now not having all these issues; the answer is: sure. They absolutely can start today and not have these issues if they do what everyone's been saying here all along (and you seem to agree with as well). No one has to rewind 1.5 years and start from that point with problems that have long since been fixed.

Frankly, I'm kind of amazed myself how effortless SL is to install on the UD3P board as outlined in the LifeHacker guide. (Finally got to set up a system with it tonight).

Un-freakin' believably easy. Not a single 'kext' or EFI string or anything and as near as I can tell, everything works. It really wasn't much more effort than installing on a real Mac- with the only irregular thing being the bootable flash drive. Other than that- nothing to it.
 
dukebound85, I just don't get why you were proclaiming all this about how impossible it is to run a Hackintosh without problems, when you admit to doing many of the things that are known to cause trouble.

I'm not knocking you for having gone through problems and learned from it- that's not the issue at all- it's that you seemed to be arguing as if the same 'issues' are still a completely unavoidable part of everyone's Hackintosh experience, like no methods have since moved past all of this. Yet you contradict this yourself.

So to answer your question about someone new starting out right now not having all these issues; the answer is: sure. They absolutely can start today and not have these issues if they do what everyone's been saying here all along (and you seem to agree with as well). No one has to rewind 1.5 years and start from that point with problems that have long since been fixed.

Frankly, I'm kind of amazed myself how effortless SL is to install on the UD3P board as outlined in the LifeHacker guide. (Finally got to set up a system with it tonight).

Un-freakin' believably easy. Not a single 'kext' or EFI string or anything and as near as I can tell, everything works. It really wasn't much more effort than installing on a real Mac- with the only irregular thing being the bootable flash drive. Other than that- nothing to it.

True,

I guess my point is, don't be surprised if you do have some hiccups

When these happen, you do not have any tech support other than the hackintosh forums lol

I would never advise this to someone who isnt able to potentially dive into issues if need be
 
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