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Mac Sales has down 27% annually, does it affect your Mac passion?

The introduction of Apple Silicon was such an amazing upgrade cycle that people just do not have the need to go from M1 to M2/M3/M4/...

macOS is still superior to everything else out there and MBA/MBP are best of the best.
 
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drugdoubles said:
Yeah Mac is like 200%, 300% price of windows laptop with same specs. That’s why I call it passion since no way to buy Mac if just because technically get a job done.
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Where do you get a Windows laptop with current MBP specs? (I do not think they exist)
 
jole said:
Where do you get a Windows laptop with current MBP specs? (I do not think they exist)
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I think the answer to that is complicated. It’s easy to find windows laptops with similar functionality. Similar specs? Not possible because they don’t have M3s. On the other hand, it’s easy to find them with more ports, connectivity, and better GPUs. So it’s a matter of what you need in features, form factor, and IMO still much more important a distinction than anything else: do you want MacOS. Because the hardware is very different but the benchmarks don’t matter much frankly, when a high end of either family does similar things overall. The big difference is still the ecosystem you want to work in. And with that comes different software options
 
xantufrog said:
I think the answer to that is complicated. It’s easy to find windows laptops with similar functionality. Similar specs? Not possible because they don’t have M3s. On the other hand, it’s easy to find them with more ports, connectivity, and better GPUs. So it’s a matter of what you need in features, form factor, and IMO still much more important a distinction than anything else: do you want MacOS. Because the hardware is very different but the benchmarks don’t matter much frankly, when a high end of either family does similar things overall. The big difference is still the ecosystem you want to work in. And with that comes different software options
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Well you can get an i3 or an i5 and even an i7 that matches the M3. You can get 16GB of RAM on some systems but limited to 1080p resolution. Crappy trackpads but you can get 1TB of storage. And yes for me I would definitely pay $500 more just for macOS alone I massively despise Windows. Etc and etc. The overall package is what makes Macs great.

But people don't compare specs for specs all that well. They see the sizes sure, but to deep dive I mean the speeds and CAS latency on most of those 16GB of RAM at $600 laptops is NOT good.
 
Torty said:
One year of waiting unfortunately also means one year less SW and HW support. It also looks like the air is getting less support because it’s released months later than the mbp?
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I know that. But the difference in price could be worth waiting. As every product which sells in Sweden has 1 year warranty and 3 years consumer warranty, I don't worry about HW. There are a lot of people like me who don't make a living out of computers. For me it's just a passion to use the Mac. I started using Macs and PCS for more than 20 years ago but for the past 8 years I use only Mac. And I don't have the need to update often either. Longest I used my MacBook Pro was 7 years (MBP 13 Retina 2015). Shortest was almost year of use of M1 Pro 16" and downsized to my current 14" M1Pro. If I see a very good offer for M3, and if the resale value of my 14, I might go for it. Otherwise, I can keep on using mine.

I also guess base M3 14" gonna have slower NAND than its predecessors.
 
Ethosik said:
Well you can get an i3 or an i5 and even an i7 that matches the M3. You can get 16GB of RAM on some systems but limited to 1080p resolution. Crappy trackpads but you can get 1TB of storage. And yes for me I would definitely pay $500 more just for macOS alone I massively despise Windows. Etc and etc. The overall package is what makes Macs great.

But people don't compare specs for specs all that well. They see the sizes sure, but to deep dive I mean the speeds and CAS latency on most of those 16GB of RAM at $600 laptops is NOT good.
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Many 2k and 4k windows laptop now, I don’t know any 5k yet.
 
Ethosik said:
Well you can get an i3 or an i5 and even an i7 that matches the M3. You can get 16GB of RAM on some systems but limited to 1080p resolution. Crappy trackpads but you can get 1TB of storage. And yes for me I would definitely pay $500 more just for macOS alone I massively despise Windows. Etc and etc. The overall package is what makes Macs great.

But people don't compare specs for specs all that well. They see the sizes sure, but to deep dive I mean the speeds and CAS latency on most of those 16GB of RAM at $600 laptops is NOT good.
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That’s my point - it’s not possible to find equivalent specs. It’s a very different hardware lineage. The MacBook Pro isn’t superior on that basis - people who want one want it because the overall package is what suits their needs the best
 
Mac passion and religious fervor ended in the early 2000's. People were passionate about the Mac like a religion when Wired has the "Pray!" cover in June, 1997 (source https://www.wired.com/2008/03/bz-apple-ourbad/) . Being passionate about Macs was to keep Apple alive, to prevent all consumer computers from using Windows. The 90's are long over. The '00's are over. The '10's are over.

Apple is nowhere close to death, and having a passion about Macs is silly at best, and a mental health problem at worst.
 
All these numbers mean nothing.

Mac users exist because they like macOS, Apple's ecosystem integration, and (to a perhaps lesser extent) Apple's aesthetic sense.

I personally will buy Macs, iPads, and iPhones until Apple screws up ALL of the above beyond recognition or usability, or someone else comes along and does it ALL better than Apple.

Price, stock performance, popularity, etc are not (necessarily) a factor (yet) for me at least, and it never was.
 
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Honestly who cares? Unless you are a stockholder. You can also look at this another way. With a lot of people buying or upgrading to a new Mac since the release of the M series processors, sales are going to naturally decline year over year somewhat as the user base grows and the need to buy new or upgrade declines. Percentages don't really mean as much as overall user base. I have been using Macs and other Apple hardware, software and services since 2007 and never once cared about percentages. Like many others have mentioned it is the ecosystem that keeps me staying with Apple and probably always will.
 
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drugdoubles said:
We are all human and most of us like to follow the majority. 27% sales disappear in just a year, 34% quarterly, much less people buy Mac now, then would you stop buying new Mac in future and why?
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Why would anyone stop buying Mac, if that’s what they prefer and suits their needs, just because of a sales trend? i don’t understand the imagined link?
 
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NEPOBABY said:
I wish people actually understood the world before commenting on the internet.
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Exactly.

And let's add the nail to the coffin : 2023 is a year of crazy inflation, the various agencies react by giving up crazy mortgage renewals, which ends up in people not having money to spend on expensive items anymore such as Apple products.
 
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What a strange thread. If you were looking for a reaction TC you certainly got it though.
 
The entire PC/Laptop industry is down as well; everyone is hurting from Lenovo, Dell and GPU sales. It’s not just Apple. Also Macs get held onto far longer than PC’s and with a smaller market share that 27% is going to look big.

As others have mentioned, we just exited or (sort-of) are still in a pandemic in which saw millions of computers purchased to work from home. Plus after the M1 dropped its only natural Mac sales are going to slump for a few years.
 
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Kottu said:
I know that. But the difference in price could be worth waiting. As every product which sells in Sweden has 1 year warranty and 3 years consumer warranty, I don't worry about HW. There are a lot of people like me who don't make a living out of computers. For me it's just a passion to use the Mac. I started using Macs and PCS for more than 20 years ago but for the past 8 years I use only Mac. And I don't have the need to update often either. Longest I used my MacBook Pro was 7 years (MBP 13 Retina 2015). Shortest was almost year of use of M1 Pro 16" and downsized to my current 14" M1Pro. If I see a very good offer for M3, and if the resale value of my 14, I might go for it. Otherwise, I can keep on using mine.

I also guess base M3 14" gonna have slower NAND than its predecessors.
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Hi Kottu,
are you living in Sweden ? I lived 9 month in Stockholm, working as an intern at Aga. The country is beautiful.
Best regards,
Schnitzel
 
Mac buying seems to peak and then ebb.
Remember some months' back there were articles noting that Apple's iPhone sales had suffered a big decline...?
 
Schnitzel1979 said:
Hi Kottu,
are you living in Sweden ? I lived 9 month in Stockholm, working as an intern at Aga. The country is beautiful.
Best regards,
Schnitzel
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Hi!
Country is beautiful but it has become crime capital of Europe because of incompetent governance. Good old Peaceful community has more violence than any other developed countries.
 
drugdoubles said:
We are all human and most of us like to follow the majority. 27% sales disappear in just a year, 34% quarterly, much less people buy Mac now, then would you stop buying new Mac in future and why?
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If you wanted to follow the majority you should have stayed on windows…

This post makes no sense

Did you also forget inflation and also the fact M1 M2 M3 rapid successions still has no answers from Intel and most people still can’t max out their M1x because the performance of the SOC is so good. Of course sales will be down… the entire debt bomb is about to go off and there are already a ton of layoffs No money no purchase. Ton of factors
 
drugdoubles said:
We are all human and most of us like to follow the majority. 27% sales disappear in just a year, 34% quarterly, much less people buy Mac now, then would you stop buying new Mac in future and why?
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YES!

Being the tribal primate that I am, I too have found a strong kinship centered around fellow consumers of commercial brands.

Before the news, I was beaming with confidence! Dishing out zings towards the enemy at dinner tables, explaining 'It just works' to skeptical coworkers and passionately participating in the communal worship at the apple developer conferences.

But now seeing that my tribe possibly ain't doing so hot, ignoring the critical implication of macro economic effects of course, I just don't feel like doing much of anything anymore. I've even gone so far as briefly considering focusing my tribal urges on a sports club instead. Perhaps joining a riot against that other tribe who are wearing shirts with the wrong color. But then I snap out of it. After all, I'm more sophisticated.

How are you guys coping?
 
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