MacBook Pro 2018 - Speakers Crackling

[CreeptoLoser]

please, everyone who buy the new MBP, to check midi audio to see if by default is 48 kHZ

Default is and always has been 44.

 

[dan9700]

Its so annoying keeps doing it

 

[fokmik]

mine is set to 44,100 2 ch 32bit float is this as it should be?

For me, the imac and macbook were 48 kHz and now on the 2018 model too set by me
Try to go with 48 and tell us

 

[davidec]

Funny mine was set to 48 but all other machines have defaulted at 44. If this is a clock issue, which clearly most of us think this is then there may have been an ommission in apples behalf to set a master word clock between the T2 and the ADC/DAC in which case they may need to reconfigure internally - that would be a hardware issue. If not, the obvious thing is a software update which sets a master word clock and slave whilst locking the sample rate. If I’m anywhere near the money Apple would be a scratching their heads and may be outsourcing to help resolve this problem.

 

[tehStickMan]

If it was a hardware issue you will get a replacement not a repair. There would be a recall. The production line would be stopped and changed.

"There would be a recall"

Come now, we all know Apple doesn't do recalls or fix campaigns unless forced to buy class action lawsuits.
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I've had my 2018 for a month now and the only noise I've heard coming from the speaker(s) was a slight static sound once when a text message came through, a non issue for me.

That static/hiss is actually a defect, and I'm not sure why you're dismissing it so easily on a premium product.

The hiss is there on absolutely any audio.
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I haven't heard any crackling, stuttering, hissing on mute, coil whine or other noise.

So you hear the hiss/static when playing the message tone - because from your experience you KNOW what it's supposed to sound like, so you know the hissing sound is extra.

But you're also saying you don't hear any hiss on mute? That's not possible, because the hissing is there, on mute, just not as loud and pronounced as when you crank it.

So it seems your hearing isn't good. That's probably why you don't hear coil whine too.

The conclusion is: you've factually proven that your hearing isn't good enough. You aren't the normal use case, and your opinion that all of this is a non-issue is totally ridiculous.
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I'm not about to stress the device to see if I can make it come up with a problem. I hope I'm not proven wrong, but to me this computer is fault free.

How can you say the computer is fault free??

1. You've admitted there is a fault.
2. You either can't or refuse to hear the other faults.
3. You refuse to do valid testing that's been proven to expose further faults

And yet you claim your laptop is fault free?? And people agree with you?

You have warped logic, and again, your opinion on this matter is factually wrong and unhelpful.

 

[bevsb2]

That static/hiss is actually a defect, and I'm not sure why you're dismissing it so easily on a premium product.

The hiss is there on absolutely any audio.
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So you hear the hiss/static when playing the message tone - because from your experience you KNOW what it's supposed to sound like, so you know the hissing sound is extra.

But you're also saying you don't hear any hiss on mute? That's not possible, because the hissing is there, on mute, just not as loud and pronounced as when you crank it.

So it seems your hearing isn't good. That's probably why you don't hear coil whine too.

The conclusion is: you've factually proven that your hearing isn't good enough. You aren't the normal use case, and your opinion that all of this is a non-issue is totally ridiculous.
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How can you say the computer is fault free??

1. You've admitted there is a fault.
2. You either can't or refuse to hear the other faults.
3. You refuse to do valid testing that's been proven to expose further faults

And yet you claim your laptop is fault free?? And people agree with you?

You have warped logic, and again, your opinion on this matter is factually wrong and unhelpful.

Sorry about my unhelpful opinion. Surely you have more to do with your time than reply to everything I said considering I have warped logic and poor hearing. Let's just agree to disagree about the state of my computer which I couldn't be happier with.

 

[einsof1]

Any video editors on here experiencing crackles and pops while scrubbing or shuttling through footage?

 

[CreeptoLoser]

"There would be a recall"

Come now, we all know Apple doesn't do recalls or fix campaigns unless forced to buy class action lawsuits.

Comedy gold. Apple has issued recalls and extended warranties. The most famous one being 2007-2008 MacBook Pros with defective Nvidia chips.

I'm stress testing latest Mojave now.

 

[user3887]

mine is set to 44,100 2 ch 32bit float is this as it should be?

The 2018 default is 48 000
I think
at least both the ones I bought...returned the first....same issue with the second machine as Logic Pro x was installed and opened the midi out changed to 44 100 and problems started

Traktor probably once installed and opened automatically changes the audio midi out from 48 000 default to 44 100...
Logic Pro x did this to both of the 2018 models I have bought...automatically changed them midi out to 44 100...

set it to 48 000 again in midi audio and you'll not get the crackling...in 44 100 is where I have had the crackling problems...not once in 48 000 not once

switch between 44100 in DAW for work and 48 000 for recreational viewing /listening

 

[CreeptoLoser]

The 2018 default is 48 000

Not on mine. Certainly not for other members who recommended changing it to 48.

Anyway.

Testing freshest Mojave’s audio now. Keeps improving with each build. I’m playing and scrubbing video and audio from different sources and apps. So far no audio issues with playback. Only a tiny bit of crackle in volume controls but it goes away if you keep hitting the buttons.

 

[user3887]

its so so strange...
mine was definitely set at 48 000 on this second machine I received...installed Logic Pro x...opened it...checked midi setting and it was at 44 100...
I left it at 44 100...and I experienced crackling issues
set it back on 48 000 with no issues

thanks for testing the Mojave betas and keeping some of the ridiculous speculation in check

 

[AdamA9]

The 2018 default is 48 000
I think
at least both the ones I bought...returned the first....same issue with the second machine as Logic Pro x was installed and opened the midi out changed to 44 100 and problems started

Traktor probably once installed and opened automatically changes the audio midi out from 48 000 default to 44 100...
Logic Pro x did this to both of the 2018 models I have bought...automatically changed them midi out to 44 100...

set it to 48 000 again in midi audio and you'll not get the crackling...in 44 100 is where I have had the crackling problems...not once in 48 000 not once

switch between 44100 in DAW for work and 48 000 for recreational viewing /listening

I don't have Logic Pro X or Traktor and mine was 44,100 out of the box. My problems went away switching to 48

 

[user3887]

I don't have Logic Pro X or Traktor and mine was 44,100 out of the box. My problems went away switching to 48

I had no problems out of box on both 2018 machines...
installed Logic Pro x...worked in logic...
then the crackling started once I quit logic...in youtube videos...soon after 40 or so mins...
checked and saw that logic had automatically changed it to 44 100...

I very specifically checked my second machines audio midi setup out the box (after returning the first one with crackling starting the hours after installing logic)

microphone input was 44 100
output was definitely 48 000...

I know that the default is normally 44 100
I work with audio and logic is why apple
so found it strange???

maybe all the people who say they do not experience problems should set it to 44 100 and put a 2hr youtube video on and leave it to play through...

I bet it will crackle between 35-55mins into the video if left to play through

the people who experience no crackling are people who got a computer with the audio midi setup at 48 000 output
this was definitely the default on mine (I installed logic and it auto changed to 44 100 then the problems started) on my first and second machines...fine until installing and using Logic Pro x

small hiccups in pause and play and scrubbing in youtube/streams are only issues at 48 000 I've experienced

the people who experience crackling and other issues OUT OF THE BOX seem to get the computers set with a default of 44 100
huge audio crackling delays and overlap combined with video freeze and video blackout seem to be among
issues at 44 100

 

[AdamA9]

I had no problems out of box on both 2018 machines...
installed Logic Pro x...worked in logic...
then the crackling started once I quit logic...in youtube videos...soon after 40 or so mins...
checked and saw that logic had automatically changed it to 44 100...

I very specifically checked my second machines audio midi setup out the box (after returning the first one with crackling starting the hours after installing logic)

microphone input was 44 100
output was definitely 48 000...

I know that the default is normally 44 100
I work with audio and logic is why apple
so found it strange???

maybe all the people who say they do not experience problems should set it to 44 100 and put a 2hr youtube video on and leave it to play through...

I bet it will crackle between 35-55mins into the video if left to play through

the people who experience no crackling are people who got a computer with the audio midi setup at 48 000 output
this was definitely the default on mine (I installed logic and it auto changed to 44 100 then the problems started) on my first and second machines...fine until installing and using Logic Pro x

small hiccups in pause and play and scrubbing in youtube/streams are only issues at 48 000 I've experienced

the people who experience crackling and other issues OUT OF THE BOX seem to get the computers set with a default of 44 100
huge audio crackling delays and overlap combined with video freeze and video blackout seem to be among
issues at 44 100

Does Traktor need 44,100Hz output to run? I have Traktor on my old machine and will be putting it on my new laptop when I swap it out but if I'm always going to have these issues I won't get another one and will just get a refund.

My scenario is the same as yours from the YouTube videos. Always after 20-40 minutes it happens. It's quicker to happen when you stress the laptop and get the temperature up and the fans running.

 

[user3887]

Does Traktor need 44,100Hz output to run? I have Traktor on my old machine and will be putting it on my new laptop when I swap it out but if I'm always going to have these issues I won't get another one and will just get a refund.

My scenario is the same as yours from the YouTube videos. Always after 20-40 minutes it happens. It's quicker to happen when you stress the laptop and get the temperature up and the fans running.

I currently have been working at 44 100 in Logic Pro x and have not experienced any issues...then when I quit Logic Pro x I open audio midi setup and change back to 48 000 for other uses(streaming etc)

I also work with 48 000 in logic with a user template setup with 48 000 set in the project settings

I have not worked with tractor for 4 or so years but it probably is 44 100 but you are probably able to change it to 48 000 it definitely has some conversion options and has 96k capabilities from what I understand

again from my experience Logic Pro x is fine at 44 100 and 48 000 so far

I've only ever experienced the issues in youtube videos...but have seen iTunes/spotify also cause issues for others...

 

[AdamA9]

Edit: Duplicate thread.
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I currently have been working at 44 100 in Logic Pro x and have not experienced any issues...then when I quit Logic Pro x I open audio midi setup and change back to 48 000 for other uses(streaming etc)

I also work with 48 000 in logic with a user template setup with 48 000 set in the project settings

I have not worked with tractor for 4 or so years but it probably is 44 100 but you are probably able to change it to 48 000 it definitely has some conversion options and has 96k capabilities from what I understand

again from my experience Logic Pro x is fine at 44 100 and 48 000 so far

I've only ever experienced the issues in youtube videos...but have seen iTunes/spotify also cause issues for others...

Thanks. My issues were with any sound; notifications, YouTube, iTunes etc.

 

[user3887]

Not on mine. Certainly not for other members who recommended changing it to 48.

Anyway.

Testing freshest Mojave’s audio now. Keeps improving with each build. I’m playing and scrubbing video and audio from different sources and apps. So far no audio issues with playback. Only a tiny bit of crackle in volume controls but it goes away if you keep hitting the buttons.

is this with audio midi set at 44 100 or 48 000 in Mojave beta

 

[CreeptoLoser]

is this with audio midi set at 44 100 or 48 000 in Mojave beta

I tested both. The volume buttons have a tiny bit more crackle at 44.

Still testing playback in YouTube, iTunes, Spotify, Logic etc. Had no issues there yet.

My position is still the same. A firmware update will regulate any electrical interference between components. There’s a very very very outside chance of hardware issue.

 

[user3887]

I tested both. The volume buttons have a tiny bit more crackle at 44.

Still testing playback in YouTube, iTunes, Spotify, Logic etc. Had no issues there yet.

My position is still the same. A firmware update will regulate any electrical interference between components. There’s a very very very outside chance of hardware issue.

well thats a positive
I agree its probably firmware
especially as I noticed it definitely had something to do with audio midi setup options and that my replacement had the same issue after installing logic

 

[Tusskan]

Guys someone of those who tried the new Mojave beta tell us what's up now, I'm still waiting for my machine to arrive, sadly the space-grey color was out of stock so I told them to send the silver as I'm not so in need for a specific colors, what matters is the functionality after all.

 

[Marketh]

Just out of curiosity opened up MIDI setup on my machine (2018 13") and the default output & input are both 48k. Haven't got Logic or any other audio related software installed (except iTunes), and this was my first time opening MIDI setup.

Edit: Not running Mojave FWIW; Still on High Sierra.

 

[motomotomoto]

what I don't understand is why some 2018 MBP seem to have no issues running Logic Pro intensively, at default settings and others (like mine) break down into a crackling mess. What type of error would only effect a portion of machines?

 

[Marketh]

Just out of curiosity opened up MIDI setup on my machine (2018 13") and the default output & input are both 48k. Haven't got Logic or any other audio related software installed (except iTunes), and this was my first time opening MIDI setup.

Edit: Not running Mojave FWIW; Still on High Sierra.

After posting this I went into the Apple Store to check the demo units. Most were 44, with a couple being 48. Why would this be? Checked both 13” and 15” models.

 

[user3887]

After posting this I went into the Apple Store to check the demo units. Most were 44, with a couple being 48. Why would this be? Checked both 13” and 15” models.

so 44 100 is not default on 2018 MBP...thats a first then???
its strange...some 44 100 some 48 000
have you had problems at your default 48 000?

what I don't understand is why some 2018 MBP seem to have no issues running Logic Pro intensively, at default settings and others (like mine) break down into a crackling mess. What type of error would only effect a portion of machines?

are you running logic with a 44 100 default project setting or did you make 48 000 templates and experience problems?

 

[CreeptoLoser]

After posting this I went into the Apple Store to check the demo units. Most were 44, with a couple being 48. Why would this be? Checked both 13” and 15” models.

Someone must be fiddling the setting in store or an app like Logic or Final Cut is changing the default.

All installations are cloned from the same image. Store machines are rebooted nightly and reboot looking like a fresh install.