Hoping this supplemental update will fix the issue..? Anyone know so far?
Just installed. Speaker still pops.
Hoping this supplemental update will fix the issue..? Anyone know so far?
AFAIC, Apple's a sinking ship at this point... They've had since 2016 to address this issue, with blown speaker/distortion issues on the 1st touch bar. This has gone way past any rational threshold for sanity...I have the popping issue with the right speaker on my 2018 15” MacBook Pro 6-core. Software is up to date, NVRAM restarted, OS restarted, etc.
For the price of this thing this is quite disappointing. I have owned Apple products since 2003 and I’m sorry but things don’t have the same quality they used to have. This computer also seems to have an issue with the auto-graphics switching with making Netflix flicker on full screen mode.
I guess I’ll have to take a trip to the Apple Store. Exactly how I don’t want to spend my time.
Very interesting! Perhaps not an Apple problem but a parts problem.https://www.dell.com/community/XPS/XPS-15-9570-Audio-crackling-and-popping/td-p/6105798/page/23
We don't seem to be alone with big audio problems...
Very interesting! Perhaps not an Apple problem but a parts problem.
Which is contrary to what I personally think the issue is; software not hardware. We’ll see.
On my machine (Vega 20), I've noticed that there's an audible crackle whenever changing volume with both built-in speakers and headphones.
However, if I launch a DAW (either Logic or Propellerhead Reason) this stops occurring. As soon as I quit the app, the issue returns.
Not sure what's happening...
I have small pops, hisses, only when pausing and resuming youtube or online streamed videos.
Playing music on spotify gives me no issues.
But then when I go System Settings - Sound - (Choose Funk Sound effect - Default) and repeatedly press the sound icon i hear a small hizz, popping sound, same as when forwarding and or pausing youtube video.s
Is that what you guys also mean? It also comes through the airpods i have....
Crackle usually refers to the sound in the top video I posted in reply #1329. It sounds kind of like a tearing sound.Pops typically come with the issue though... They're usually short single sounds. Seems to be common when adjusting the volume, and yes I also get them when pausing/unpausing any kind of streaming video.
Crackle usually refers to the sound in the top video I posted in reply #1329. It sounds kind of like a tearing sound.Pops typically come with the issue though... They're usually short single sounds. Seems to be common when adjusting the volume, and yes I also get them when pausing/unpausing any kind of streaming video.
Does that mean, the pops are normal and that was also the case with the 2016/2017 model?
Does that mean, that my machine is perfectly fine? I do get these pops also with my Airpods external sources?
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Secondly.... why does pausing spotify songs and other audio only sources not behave the same way?
Fine's a grey area. It's pretty 'normal'. (But I wouldn't call it fine or acceptable that the markets most expensive laptops do this. And definitely not ok that Apple has either ignored the issue or let it fly under the radar.)
lastly, that noise also appears through my airpods... so it the speakers arent the faulty part here, but what is? and why does pause, stop and resume of youtube videos have it but not spotify audio only?
a graphics card / sound card combination issue?
I will go to an apple store and test the sound on these devices there....
I have small pops, hisses, only when pausing and resuming youtube or online streamed videos.
Playing music on spotify gives me no issues.
But then when I go System Settings - Sound - (Choose Funk Sound effect - Default) and repeatedly press the sound icon i hear a small hizz, popping sound, same as when forwarding and or pausing youtube video.s
Is that what you guys also mean? It also comes through the airpods i have....
I have the same issue on my 2018. I first noticed a popping noise while changing music in the middle of a youtube video playing different music. When I change the music, it makes a split second pop noise intermittently. It doesn't happen all the time but on some music.
But w/ the sound effect under system settings > sound > funk sound and when I click on it repeatedly I get the pop noise consistently. Seems like a speaker issue that was missed by apple engineers forgetting to use filters of some sort.
I'm debating whether I should keep this or return it. Luckily I'm still within my 14-day return period.
I don’t know if this is the same issue but I thought I should mention it.
I don’t get the crackle. However, I do get a pop not unlike when I turn on my HiFi amp every once in a while after playing something and then stopping.
For instance, I’ll play a game, quit the game, and maybe 15 seconds later my speakers will pop in that fashion. I don’t do audio stuff anymore so this is the only thing I have to add.
And yes, the Dell XPS line experiences very similar issues to those I see in those videos.
I will go to an apple store and double check... could you please do the same?
Secondly, have you tried using headphones? It happens there too I dont think its a speaker issue since it happens on headphones too.
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Are you saying on ur 2018 macbook you do not have any issues playing anything youtube videos, stopping them etc. or have u tried the sound effect under system settings > sound > funk sound - press it repeatedly.
Anyone having this? Just saw this and it worries me before I pull the trigger on one of the latest MacBook Pros
Apple’s latest Macs have a serious audio glitching bug
Peter Kirn - February 18, 2019
http://cdm.link/2019/02/apple-2018-glitch/
"Apple has a serious, unresolved bug that causes issues with audio performance with external interfaces across all its latest Macs, thanks to the company’s own software and custom security chip.
Following bug reports online, the impacted machines are all the newest computers – those with Apple’s own T2 security chip:
Impacted hardware of this and possibly other bugs includes most external USB 2.0 audio hardware. We have have some reports of issues over FireWire, which initially had seemed like a refuge. Perversely, readers are also reporting widespread issues with Apple’s own internal audio (speakers and headphone jack).
- iMac Pro
- Mac mini models introduced in 2018
- MacBook Air models introduced in 2018
- MacBook Pro models introduced in 2018
The T2 in Apple’s words “is Apple’s second-generation, custom silicon for Mac. By redesigning and integrating several controllers found in other Mac computers—such as the System Management Controller, image signal processor, audio controller, and SSD controller—the T2 chip delivers new capabilities to your Mac.”
The problem is, it appears that this new chip has introduced glitches on a wide variety of external audio hardware from across the pro audio industry, thanks to a bug in Apple’s software. Issues with the way the new chip synchronizes timing causes dropouts and glitches in the audio stream. (It seems basically all USB 2.0 audio interfaces will be impacted. This of course unfortunately leads users to blame their interface manufacturer, but the fault lies with Apple.)
Switching off “Set date and time automatically” in System Preferences will reduce, but not resolve the issue. Nebulae aka Abid Hussain, an Ableton Certified trainer, writes in comments:
"Unchecking the time sync only reduces the dropouts. You need to also uncheck the location sync in the Time Zone tab, but even then you’re only reducing the dropouts. Any time the T2 chip tries to sync, it will overload the USB2.0 bus, causing dropouts. There is no way any musician should go on stage with a 2018 [Mac] and a USB2.0 audio interface directly connected to it. The only solutions are 1) Get a Thunderbolt or USB3.0 audio interface, or 2) Use a Certified Thunderbolt 3 powered hub (not a bus-powered or cheap non-certified hub) – Cable Matters has a solution for $169 on Amazon, but most of those hubs are at least $200-300. Using a certified TB3 hub creates a separate external USB2.0 bus, in which you can run your USB2.0 audio interface. The cheap hubs do not work because they don’t run on the TB3 bus, and therefore they don’t create their own separate USB2.0 bus, which means you’re going to get dropouts."
To clarify: all T2-based Macs, that is all Mac models from the 2018 generation, are evidently unusable with USB 2.0 audio interfaces, irrespective of vendor. Audio interfaces using FireWire or Thunderbolt are reportedly unaffected by this particular bug, but USB 2.0 is for the moment the most popular bus for audio devices, so nearly all owners of the new machines are encountering the issue. (There are also some reports that USB3 devices are unaffected, but I can’t confirm that and those devices are rare. Note that even some audio interfaces with USB-C connectors do actually make use of the USB2.0 bus.)
This of course has led some users to simply buy a new Thunderbolt 3 audio interface. But this situation is unacceptable – plenty of standard, inexpensive PCs have no such issues with Thunderbolt and USB audio hardware. Apple has shipped their entire computer line with buggy firmware that renders those machines unusable for the majority of people working with sound (so music, video, and audio production), and have lagged in finding a solution for months after shipping these expensive machines. Not only that, but is anyone clear on what problem the T2 security chip even solves? Apple now loves crowing about its “custom silicon” often without even explaining to us why anyone needs it.
Anyway, for now that’s the set of choices, until Apple ships a comprehensive, tested fix:
1. Mac users on older machines should postpone upgrading.
2. Mac users in the market purchasing a new machine right now should consider a comparable Windows machine.
3. Users stuck with these models should use a Thunderbolt 3 audio interface, adapter, or hub, or attempt to return the computer in favor of an older Mac or new PC.
More:
https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/anvufc/psa_2018_macs_with_t2_chip_unusable_with_external/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8509051
https://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=138992
https://www.gearspace.com/board/music-computers/1232030-usb-audio-glitches-macbook-pro-2018-a.html
https://openradar.appspot.com/46918065
This represents another serious quality control fumble from Apple. The value proposition with Apple always been that the company’s control over its own hardware, software, and industrial engineering meant a more predictable product. But when Apple botches the quality of its own products and doesn’t test and resolve creative audio and video use cases, that value case quickly flips. You’re sacrificing choice and paying a higher price for a product that’s actually worse.
Apple’s recent Mac line have also come under fire for charging a premium price while sacrificing things users want (like NVIDIA graphics cards, affordable internal storage, or extra ports). And on the new thin MacBook and MacBook Pro lines, keyboard reliability issues.
Some of those mainstream PC vendors do now test with third-party pro audio hardware (I’ve talked to Razer about this, for instance). And that’s to say nothing of vendors like pcaudiolabs who custom-configure each machine for the actual DAWs. Apple clearly has the resources to do the same, and they make a DAW of their own (Logic Pro). This appears to be an issue they could possibly have reproduced and corrected before shipping.
Updated: The 2018 iPad Pro also suffered from audio issues, which appear to be software related. This seems not to have any direct relation to the issue with the Mac line, but is further evidence of some quality control and testing issues involving real-time audio performance and Apple firmware and software.
If you do have one of these machines, let us know if you’ve been having trouble with this issue and if this workaround (hopefully) solves your problem.
I sent mine back to them because they requested a device capture. They've had it 2.5wks now, so after a month or so I'll request another update.
What do you mean device capture? you will be without a macbook for a month? is this regarding the popping noise on youtube videos?