He mentioned that he has 16GB of RAM and isn't choking with that at the moment.
You object to my statement that
"You do not mention RAM, which will be very relevant over the life of any new box," but that comment was made in response to the original post, in which RAM had not yet been mentioned.
That's seriously overkill for what the OP needs. Hell, it's overkill for the vast majority of Mac users.
Unless you are getting serious with video editing, audio work, virtualization, scientific work, development, gaming, or anything else resource intensive, you will not need more than 16GB. I do not know where you get the idea that the best you're going to do on an Apple Silicon Mac with 16GB of RAM is to get it to function.
I did
not say
"that the best you're going to do on an Apple Silicon Mac with 16GB of RAM is to get it to function." What I actually
said was:
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16 GB RAM will be workable thanks to Mac OS magic but will be limiting over 2023-2028 5 year life cycle.
That described work reasonably fits in 16 GB RAM today. However it is a big mistake to plan for
today when the life cycle of the new box is the next five years, not yesterday. RAM needs always increase;
always.
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The key word in my commentary was (future)
limiting. My experience suggests that many, perhaps most, workflows - specifically including where the OP described being at today extrapolated to where the OP will likely be 4 years from now - will likely be being limited by 16 GB RAM. Not barely functional, but
limited.
Let me be crystal clear: per the OP 16 GB RAM apparently works fine for him
today, and 16 GB should also work fine for him on any Apple SoC
today. But based on history I lived and anyone can research, RAM needs always increase over time. Very simply, that means 16 GB will become limiting at some point; IMO 2-3 years.
The Mac OS will allow function but the 16 GB RAM chosen in 2023 will be limiting to the operation of the multi-thousand-dollar computer - - despite that multi-thousand-dollar computer still being an otherwise fine tool. My 2016 MBP with 16 GB RAM followed exactly that path, with no changes in apps/OS except upgrades.
IMO that would be bad 2023 decision making, because I do not think that a new multi-thousand-dollar computer should
intentionally be limited in 2 years by a RAM decision made when building the original box. Obviously any 2023 box will be limited relative to more tech-advanced 2025 boxes; that is fully expected and OK. But to intentionally and unnecessarily cause a box to become RAM-lame (yet functional thanks to Mac OS) in 2 years IMO represents poor planning, unless:
There is a valid alternate analytical view based on short life cycles that some follow for various good reasons. One can spend less now, meeting
today's needs only like you have been focusing on and then replace the box in 2 years. Makes total sense for some, especially for large entities. Such folks intend to deal with things like increasing RAM demands with a new box in 2 years, easy-peasy.
It seems to me that the OP was
not intending a short life cycle, and my comments have been made accordingly.
It makes no sense to buy an M2 Max to get cores and RAM that aren't even necessary for the use case being presented. Plus the M2 Pro can accomodate 32GB of RAM...
IMO M2 Max MBP versus M2 Pro MBP both at the same 32 GB RAM (minimum) are both acceptable choices for the OP, depending upon what the actual street costing gets to be versus the performance benefits the Max provides (OP's analytical/financial choice). But for $200 more today,
2 years from now the Max's additional GPU cores and twice the memory bandwidth may well matter to someone who (today) does "
some graphic design and video editing. ...some work in After Effects. ...mostly use my Mac with a monitor and peripherals. My current MacBook Pro works fine. Render times aren't great..."
My whole point here is that tech evolves (hardware, OS, apps) and we should plan accordingly when building hardware for 4+ year life cycles.
Apple JUST dropped support for 2017 Macs with Sonoma. They just discontinued their last Intel Mac. It's going to be a lot longer than five years from now before they're dropping support for M1 Pro and M1 Max. Even when they do inevitably drop support for those Macs on a new macOS release, those Macs will still have two more years of updates on that final OS thereafter. I have no clue where you get your logic and figures from.
Again, what I actually
said was:
...likely put an M1 MBP unable to use the Mac OS of 5 years from now.
Never have I suggested
"dropping support for M1 Pro and M1 Max." You and I agree here. My last two MBPs went 6 and 7 (and still working) years, and I never did experience loss of support (inability to upgrade to the newest OS is not
dropping support in my lexicon). I upgraded the still fully operational 2016 MBP to an M2 MBP A) because it evolved to be RAM-lame at 16 GB and B) because I use Apple-ecosystem-wide features enabled by Mac OS Sonoma that (still supported) Monterey does not facilitate.