Geez, A18 Pro with 8+128 and 720P webcam without TB, you guys still think this MacBook SE is NOT piece of junk? Then I have nothing more to say, let's wait for announcement.
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Yeah, it looks like it. Many don't realize that modern iPhone CPUs are more powerful than Intel CPU they had in MacBooks not so long ago. Performance per watt advantage Apple has comparing to Intel and AMD is huge. Memory bandwidth is about 60GB/s, M1 has 68GB/s. So yeah nice, power efficient macbook with good price. And if it also comes with C1 modem that would be huge plus.
Try to put words I didn't say in my mouth....Geez, A18 Pro with 8+128 and 720P webcam without TB, you guys still think this MacBook SE is NOT piece of junk? Then I have nothing more to say, let's wait for announcement.
This will be 256, just like the M1. It may be 8 like the M1 but I believe it will more likely be 12. Webcam and TB most people don't care. The reality is the the vast majority of people is not using TB drives.
People have been praising the M1 and are still buying it at 599 and saying it's great value. This will have better performance (snappier with single core), same or probably more RAM and will probably be lighter.
And you call it a piece of junk... Yeah, let's wait for the annoucement...
E-waste? This probably will be better than a M1 Macbook base model in many ways, especially if it gets 12GB RAM, and a magsafe port to partially make up for 1 USB port. People have been using M1 Macs to do more than browsing and consuming content. The main thing this will have that iPads don't is Mac apps... and that makes all the difference... Even just that is a reason to get a Mac even if you mainly do browsing and content consumption
intel 14700k does 18000+ multicore, running macOS, obviously it's not a mobile chip, just pointing out lunar lake isn't intel's fastest
First time I heard this. Burn out from multitasking? CPUs are designed to throttle and under-clock itself if they rise above their designed temps. Performance will suffer, but CPU will never die due to high usage. Its lifespan might be shorter, but that’s over the much longer term
You are clearly right, but there is a reason to use lunar lake in laptops, right? Can Intel make CPU for fanless design?
N100. 6 watts. Performance is about 1/3 of an M1, not quite twice the i7-4578U used in the fasted 2014 Mac mini, and about the same as the i3-8100B used in the low end 2018 Mac mini.
It's more like Apple's choice is to not sell anything or to sell a $500 A-18 laptop. Magic Keyboard plus iPad is more than that. Besides simple greed the reason the keyboard costs so much is that it is a low production rate item with a very limited market.
Dropping an A18 into the M1 MacBook Air chassis would keep the costs down as all that tooling is already paid for.
The competition is not standing still you know. You can get an AMD CPU with M1 level performance, 16 GB RAM, 512 GB storage for $400.
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Apple could counter with the A18 at $500 offering a brighter if smaller screen and more battery life.
For my use case Thunderbolt is of no value and frankly the M1 Air's screen resolution is wasted. I run at 1280 by 800 as the default is too small to read. (wait until presbyopia hits, there is still no cure for that.)
In addition to brightness, this is a 1080p 16.9 display... and with a 41wh battery this is not lasting much... Also this laptop is almost 2kg (4.2 pounds)The competition is not standing still you know. You can get an AMD CPU with M1 level performance, 16 GB RAM, 512 GB storage for $400.
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Apple could counter with the A18 at $500 offering a brighter if smaller screen and more battery life.
For my use case Thunderbolt is of no value and frankly the M1 Air's screen resolution is wasted. I run at 1280 by 800 as the default is too small to read. (wait until presbyopia hits, there is still no cure for that.)
Agreed about Tb, many claim it's important, but the vast majority of people do not use those overpriced TB drives. I built one myself with an enclosures and I barely use it because I have many other 10Gb/s drives
it's not going to "burn out" from multitasking. it's just not going to do it as well
you can burn out an amd or intel chip in a pc if you want because you can adjust the "safeguards" in the bios. you could never do that in a Mac, even when they were running on intel
that's why you could build a hackintosh that would blow the comparable Intel Mac out of the water
Lunar Lake has a good balance of power efficiency and performance. Thermals aren’t quite to M-series comparable yet, but performance and battery life is generally in the same league.
Why are people overthinking this? Those buying a $600 MacBook from Wal-Mart aren’t buying Thunderbolt drives to connect to it. They are buying an affordable laptop with a great display, a great OS, good performance, excellent battery life and lots of useful software (not bloatware) included. The A18 is faster where it matters (single core speed) and will be supported longer than the M1.
Absolutely, but Apple will make sure that it will be less attractive than M series Macbooks Air (less ports, less RAM, smaller battery, worse screen, less configuration options). But it will be far from ewaste and will sell very well, eating into Windows market share.
My guess is it will be identical to the M1 Air, just with an A18. Voila, MacBook SE.
I like this idea in a vacuum. If there were no cheaper (iPad Air and under) tablets and all MacBooks cost at least $1k it might make sense. As it stands currently, this product would basically fill a niche of a niche of a niche: iPad users who want an attached keyboard and aren't satisfied with the iPad and Magic Keyboard combo. I can't see Cook and his team green lighting this corner case because it would have relatively few sales. That said, a $100 premium on what's essentially an iPad Air with an attached keyboard is probably pretty compelling.
Apple made a version of this in the past: the eMate. It was a slightly underpowered Newton MessagePad 2000 encased in a small, transparent green laptop enclosure. The "e" stood for education and the product was clearly aimed at that market back when Apple was far more dependent on the ed channel. They understood the niche for the eMate, though Jobs killed it and the rest of the Newton line when he came back.
It will be less attractive to power users, but if they price it right it will be very attractive to users with simpler needs who want a MacBook, but don't need all the bells and whistles.
Absolutely, a ton of users couldn't care less about Thunderbolt and even one port could be enough, especially if it has MagSafe, and don't care about about webcam quality, no charger in the box etc. And most people would be fine with 12GB RAM.
And this could also attract a category of people who have the budget for more (air or pro) but would still buy this for on the go if this is at the same time the lightest Apple Silicon Mac (even if it's just half way between the air and the 12" MacBook) and the first to receive cellular (count me in that category, could spend over $1000 on this with the upgrades in RAM, storage and cellular)
The iPhone Pro SOC is more than capable of running in a 12" chassis with macOS.
I think the product makes total sense and will sell like hot cakes. The A18 Pro is faster than most PC laptops in practical terms, especially light usage single threaded apps and web browsing.
The A18 Pro also supports thunderbolt, so they wouldn't have to give that up.
I think the product makes total sense and will sell like hot cakes. The A18 Pro is faster than most PC laptops in practical terms, especially light usage single threaded apps and web browsing.
The A18 Pro also supports thunderbolt, so they wouldn't have to give that up.