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macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread

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highvoltage12v said:
First before you continue with what I have to recommend, can you pull your drive, plug it into another Mac and navigate to the Documents folder you were logged into while flashing? If so you can find your backed up rom, and open it with Hex feind. To make sure it's not all garbage search for "SSN" your macs serial number will appear. This will tell you the backup was most likely good. Even if it's not the 09 mini doesn't have ME Region (Core I series and later do) meaning a rom can be created from scratch. If the rom is good you need to purchase a ch341a (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I1EU9LG/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and SOIC 8 clip (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V9QNAC4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) I swear by mine it has saved me 3 times already. Anyways did your mini freeze while flashing? that happened to mine. I had to reflash it using the ch341a, it took 30 minutes to flash.
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same thing happened to me . I bricked two MacBooks doing this ( one 5,5 the other 5,1 and both were sst chips) but the solution described above worked for me two. sometimes the clips can be finnicky but eventually I got solid connection and flash recovered my machines. In my case tho the refreshing took 4 hours but they both sst so maybe that was it . I flashed a spare mx chip for an experiment and the only took fraction of the time so go figure. All I can say is be patient and persevere and hopefully you'll be back up and running soon
 
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sapphade said:
same thing happened to me . I bricked two MacBooks doing this ( one 5,5 the other 5,1 and both were sst chips) but the solution described above worked for me two. sometimes the clips can be finnicky but eventually I got solid connection and flash recovered my machines. In my case tho the refreshing took 4 hours but they both sst so maybe that was it . I flashed a spare mx chip for an experiment and the only took fraction of the time so go figure. All I can say is be patient and persevere and hopefully you'll be back up and running soon
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It is strange how some people have such a long time to complete the flash. On my MacPro 3,1 using patched High Sierra running from an SSD, the flashing took about a minute to complete.
 
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Boot up Question

I have a macbook with a dual partition (1st Mojave, 2nd High Sierra). I used @dosdude1's HS and Mojave patcher apps to install and setup both. When I get to choose what macOS to boot from (option key | power on), my Mojave option shows as "EFI Boot" and the HS option as regularly named (i.e. HS Boot).

Is there a way to "rename" the "EFI boot" to "Mojave Boot or partition name Boot"? Everything works fine. I know it's trivial but just wondering if there is a way.

Thanks.
 
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sapphade said:
same thing happened to me . I bricked two MacBooks doing this ( one 5,5 the other 5,1 and both were sst chips) but the solution described above worked for me two. sometimes the clips can be finnicky but eventually I got solid connection and flash recovered my machines. In my case tho the refreshing took 4 hours but they both sst so maybe that was it . I flashed a spare mx chip for an experiment and the only took fraction of the time so go figure. All I can say is be patient and persevere and hopefully you'll be back up and running soon
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jhowarth said:
It is strange how some people have such a long time to complete the flash. On my MacPro 3,1 using patched High Sierra running from an SSD, the flashing took about a minute to complete.
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My early 2009 Mac mini has the SST chipset the late 09 Mac mini have a Macronix chipset. It all depends on the spec sheet of the chip that determines the write speed of the chip.
 
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highvoltage12v said:
First before you continue with what I have to recommend, can you pull your drive, plug it into another Mac and navigate to the Documents folder you were logged into while flashing? If so you can find your backed up rom, and open it with Hex feind. To make sure it's not all garbage search for "SSN" your macs serial number will appear. This will tell you the backup was most likely good. Even if it's not the 09 mini doesn't have ME Region (Core I series and later do) meaning a rom can be created from scratch. If the rom is good you need to purchase a ch341a (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I1EU9LG/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and SOIC 8 clip (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V9QNAC4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) I swear by mine it has saved me 3 times already. Anyways did your mini freeze while flashing? that happened to mine. I had to reflash it using the ch341a, it took 30 minutes to flash.
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Thanks for the hints. I'll try to get my hands on the equipment.
And the mini took a while to flash initially, but didn't freeze. Though, I had the APFS tool sitting for a while in my desktop, I should have probably updated it instead of using that older version..!

Could you point me to a guide or tutorial on re-flashing the original firmware using those tools?

Thank you!
 
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L Caputo said:
[doublepost=1537684815][/doublepost]Ok so just installed a fresh new installation of Mojave on this old slugger of mine and now I am not experiencing any graphics glitches, previously the Mojave that I was using had had the legacy video patcher installed, so that was my issue.
And the GTX is now reporting that Metal is supported in the System Information.
Thanks.
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Your welcome.
 
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zrw2011 said:
im new tho this stuff is it easy to test a patch? can u give it ito me?
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You need to PM pkouame for info and yes it is a bit tricky
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pkouame said:
But Light mode is still dysfunctional with the HS frameworks - right?
I also think Apple just trimmed the frameworks (32/64 bit) Just need to check.
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That will never happen on unsupported built-in gpus. Metal is very hardware dependent.


Apple's solution is pricey and constrained. Over time the price for the better expandable solutions will drop. No better solutions for laptops. IMHO.
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Up vote for that option. I'm looking for a cheap 5.1 myself.
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Yes it is still dysfunction but I think it performs better with your patch :)
 
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gnubee said:
The GTX 680 works great on the 3,1 running macOS Mojave which was installed using dosdudes amazing patcher. :)

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KeithJohn said:
Hi, I have a Mac Pro 3.1 with a ATI Radeon HD 5870 GPU in, it runs High Sierra with Dosdudes Patcher, (many thanks) I know it won't run Mojave because it doesn't support Metal, but I am thinking of getting a new GPU, I am thinking a Nvidia Geforce GTX 680 for a Mac, will run Mojave with Dosdudes Patcher ?

Thanks Guys
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An update on this, I got it wrong with the above GPU, the one I looked at and thought of bidding on was for Windows and needed flashing, as I don't have access to a Windows and using Bootcamp screwed my Mac Pro up last time I tried to install Windows 7 causing me to reinstall High Sierra, so is there any other card that's a resonable price metal compatible, and can be installed without having to flash ?

I'm a fixed income pensioner in UK so don't have a lot of extra funds.

Thanks Guys in advance
 
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KeithJohn said:
An update on this, I got it wrong with the above GPU, the one I looked at and thought of bidding on was for Windows and needed flashing, as I don't have access to a Windows and using Bootcamp screwed my Mac Pro up last time I tried to install Windows 7 causing me to reinstall High Sierra, so is there any other card that's a resonable price metal compatible, and can be installed without having to flash ?

I'm a fixed income pensioner in UK so don't have a lot of extra funds.

Thanks Guys in advance
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Several users are using the GTX 680. I believe any Kepler Nvidia card will work. I am running the GTX Original Titan 6GB card (Kepler) and it's running extremely well. No tearing or artifacts. works with Mojave drivers out of the box much like the 680. Mine is a PC Card, unfleshed for Mac. runs x16 2.5GT/s. flashed cards on the Mac Pro 3,1 run at 5.0GT/s when called upon a task that requires it.

If anyone has an AMD Card for the 3,1 with the drivers not supported by 3,1's GPU, you basically can run El Capitan and/or Windows 10 with it. Still get some life out off it.
 
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KeithJohn said:
An update on this, I got it wrong with the above GPU, the one I looked at and thought of bidding on was for Windows and needed flashing, as I don't have access to a Windows and using Bootcamp screwed my Mac Pro up last time I tried to install Windows 7 causing me to reinstall High Sierra, so is there any other card that's a resonable price metal compatible, and can be installed without having to flash ?

I'm a fixed income pensioner in UK so don't have a lot of extra funds.

Thanks Guys in advance
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It should "run" Mojave but with some UI glitches and artifacts in certain modes. Wouldn't hurt to try first.

Of course the easy path is a native vid card. My mac edition GTX 680 was a little pricey but prices have decreased last time I checked. Entry price around 200+ (you may get lucky and find one around 150+)

Flashed cards will present issues with boot screens (last time I checked)

@Starplayr 's Titan series would be my card of choice if I were re-kitting my 3.1. Very good metal compatible option. I may consider that if I swap my 3.1 out for a cheap 5.1
 
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Mmm I am using a Mac Pro 3.1 and really struggling to find a card that works with Mojave out of the box that isn't so expensive £100 to £200 max budget.
 
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pkouame said:
It should "run" Mojave but with some UI glitches and artifacts in certain modes. Wouldn't hurt to try first.

Of course the easy path is a native vid card. My mac edition GTX 680 was a little pricey but prices have decreased last time I checked. Entry price around 200+ (you may get lucky and find one around 150+)

Flashed cards will present issues with boot screens (last time I checked)

@Starplayr 's Titan series would be my card of choice if I were re-kitting my 3.1. Very good metal compatible option. I may consider that if I swap my 3.1 out for a cheap 5.1
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When will you investigate the glitches, the final version should be out in like 24 hours.
 
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I used the patcher to install Mojave on an old iMac 7,1 20" I have been tinkering on. HS worked great after I upgraded the CPU and wifi/bt card. Everything seems to be working fairly well under Mojave as well, except that it's not seeing the bluetooth anymore. I replaced the original wifi and bt cards with a BCM94360CD card/adapter/antennas. Any suggestions for getting the bluetooth working again. It's not a huge deal, but a bit irritating....

And, just ran system_profiler SPUSBDataType in terminal, the bluetooth device is showing up there, so Mojave is just not loading the driver for it for some reason?

USB Bus:


Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBUHCIPCI

PCI Device ID: 0x2830

PCI Revision ID: 0x0003

PCI Vendor ID: 0x8086


BRCM20702 Hub:


Product ID: 0x4500

Vendor ID: 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.)

Version: 1.00

Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec

Manufacturer: Apple Inc.

Location ID: 0x1d200000 / 1

Current Available (mA): 500

Current Required (mA): 94

Extra Operating Current (mA): 0


Bluetooth USB Host Controller:


Product ID: 0x828d

Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)

Version: 1.44

Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec

Manufacturer: Apple Inc.

Location ID: 0x1d230000 / 4

Current Available (mA): 500

Extra Operating Current (mA): 0


Composite Device:


Product ID: 0x820b

Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)

Version: 1.00

Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec

Location ID: 0x1d220000 / 3

Current Available (mA): 500

Current Required (mA): 0

Extra Operating Current (mA): 0


Composite Device:


Product ID: 0x820a

Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)

Version: 1.00

Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec

Location ID: 0x1d210000 / 2

Current Available (mA): 500

Current Required (mA): 0

Extra Operating Current (mA): 0




Anyone have a suggestion to get the driver to load properly?
 
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TimothyR734 said:
You need to PM pkouame for info and yes it is a bit tricky
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Yes it is still dysfunction but I think it performs better with your patch :)
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Tim -

Mojave DB11
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OpenGL 17.0.37.0.0 - 8/29/18 - 174.2MB
OpenCL 2.12.1, Copyright 2008-2018 Apple Inc. - 8/18/18 - 217.9MB

HS (10.13.6)
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OpenGL 16.7.4.0.0 - 12/1/17 - 98.1MB
OpenCL 2.8.24, Copyright 2008-2016 Apple Inc. - 12./1/17 - 264.1MB

Even though Apple claims it is deprecated and unsupported, they are apparently still rebuilding (at least) these frameworks for Mojave.

GM releases usually trim out internal debugging and instrumentation for beta testing, so let's see (tomorrow?!) what the final versions look like. I hope they also don't strip out some of the user/system/default settings or environment variables that allow us to tweak (from command line for example) - but they usually do.

I have Hopper standing by!...;)
 
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KeithJohn said:
I managed to find a GTX 680 Mac Card for £119.99 on Ebay, reckon I will take the plunge, should get it after Mojave is released now.
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If it's a true mac edition (non-flashed) the transition should be seamless. No vibrancy or Light mode glitches. You'll be pleased.

EDIT: if it's an EFI "flashed" mac card all should go well also. Haven't tested, but the only quirk could be the lack of a boot screen (at least last time I considered this flashed version which was a few years ago) Others here may be able to pipe in.
 
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