macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread

[ASentientBot]

Precisely that is what apple wants you to do. Meanwhile Windows 10 1809 just arrived. I have installed it on all MACs and PCs. The oldest 3 MACs are 2 macmini1.1 (Windows 10 32bit) and 1 macbook3.1 (Windows 10 64bit). This October update brings enhanced dark mode, which looks beautifully on all machines I have (in total 3 PCs and 6 MACs). Both the macmini1.1 and the macbook3.1 were abandoned by apple long time ago at 10.6 and 10.7, yet both are running today latest Windows 10 and better than they did run Mac OS. I am done with apple. Will never, ever buy another apple product. Nice looking, but overpriced and outdated hardware, with hardware defects never to be fixed (like mid 2010 macbook pro) and which software-wise will definitely be abandoned soon enough too. Besides I am not going to be alone. Very soon all professionals will forget apple in favor of either Windows, or Linux. I bet within the next 2 versions, macOS will be just an iOS, which will turn the machines into a toy, with a sole option to BUY apps from the store. I was a strong apple fan, but it is just insane how this company wants to milk us over and over again like cows on a farm. Great idea Jobs!

Please, don't start this stuff again. If you don't like macOS, don't post on a macOS thread. Go and install Linux on your MacBook, have fun, and post on forums about that! It's something I've considered too, but this isn't the place to discuss it.

I absolutely disagree that Apple is abandoning macOS. Remember the WWDC 2018 keynote? Remember "will we merge iOS and macOS" and that big-ass NO on the screen? Yeah. They know that's not what we want. It will not happen. You can say what you want about Tim Cook and Apple's extremely overpriced new hardware, but the macOS itself is still rock solid and improving all the time.

 

[dogslobber]

Precisely that is what apple wants you to do. Meanwhile Windows 10 1809 just arrived. I have installed it on all MACs and PCs. The oldest 3 MACs are 2 macmini1.1 (Windows 10 32bit) and 1 macbook3.1 (Windows 10 64bit). This October update brings enhanced dark mode, which looks beautifully on all machines I have (in total 3 PCs and 6 MACs). Both the macmini1.1 and the macbook3.1 were abandoned by apple long time ago at 10.6 and 10.7, yet both are running today latest Windows 10 and better than they did run Mac OS. I am done with apple. Will never, ever buy another apple product. Nice looking, but overpriced and outdated hardware, with hardware defects never to be fixed (like mid 2010 macbook pro) and which software-wise will definitely be abandoned soon enough too. Besides I am not going to be alone. Very soon all professionals will forget apple in favor of either Windows, or Linux. I bet within the next 2 versions, macOS will be just an iOS, which will turn the machines into a toy, with a sole option to BUY apps from the store. I was a strong apple fan, but it is just insane how this company wants to milk us over and over again like cows on a farm. Great idea Jobs!

Windows 10 is a very lightweight OS compared to recent macOS versions. You can install Win10 for free on any Mac easily, providing you don't activate it.It's great for systems which Apple has abandoned as 4GB gets you a whole lot more usability in Windows than macOS. It's very sad that as a user of Mac OS X since 2002 that it's come to this for me.

I picked up a NUC to install Mojave on but settled for Win10 running on it itself. Mac hardware is also exceptionally inflated in price and now that Macs can't easily be upgraded it tends to be embarrassing. My hold for the Mac is running iMessages which I'm trying to do in a VM guest under Win10 host and banking.

 

[Starplayr]

Anyone notice that Mojave will not let you select older boot drivers in Startup Disk on the latest Mojave release? I even tried blessing a drive and the command line and it did not boot it.

Going to put a flashed card in and see if I can get El Capitan to install. Going back to show a demo on my AMD card. This is the first time Apple really doesn't want you to Dual boot different OS'.
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Please, don't start this stuff again. If you don't like macOS, don't post on a macOS thread. Go and install Linux on your MacBook, have fun, and post on forums about that! It's something I've considered too, but this isn't the place to discuss it.

I absolutely disagree that Apple is abandoning macOS. Remember the WWDC 2018 keynote? Remember "will we merge iOS and macOS" and that big-ass NO on the screen? Yeah. They know that's not what we want. It will not happen. You can say what you want about Tim Cook and Apple's extremely overpriced new hardware, but the macOS itself is still rock solid and improving all the time.

Windows 10 and macOS 'Ten' are both decent OS'. MicroSoft finally got it right. Apple has been producing macOS for over 20 years and they started with NextStep / OpenStep. Both are good. The first version Mac OS X ran slow, but Apple was able to fix that pretty quickly. Windows 10 runs inside a VM better mainly because there are video drivers inside the VMs. Other than that both products are good. Each have their niche. I am just glad at my day job we use Macs and run Windows inside VMs and we set them up as mini servers and we do everything on the Mac side for our web development.

enough said. macOS rocks.

As long as Apple is making $ which there seems to be no end to their profits. macOS will be around. iOS will be around. watchOS will be around. tvOS you get the picture. They all are based on Mac OS X which was based on NextStep. All BSD. All Un*x.

The only change Apple has made is removing open source code from things like their $19.99 Server software. And they may remove other open source software. Not all of it but I looks like they are trying to protect themselves with possible licensing issues or just not having things break if they rely on some dependency and the author decides to take it down.

 

[0134168]

So, ¿Anyone can tell me if it is fine to install Mojave in my Macbook Pro 17 late 2011? In the first page says it´s almost unusable, but once installed I really can´t see anythinh wrong.

Thank you so much.

 

[thegurgz]

Anyone notice that Mojave will not let you select older boot drivers in Startup Disk on the latest Mojave release? I even tried blessing a drive and the command line and it did not boot it.

Going to put a flashed card in and see if I can get El Capitan to install. Going back to show a demo on my AMD card. This is the first time Apple really doesn't want you to Dual boot different OS'.

I can select my El Cap startup disk from Mojave. Not sure if it's different for installer drivers.

 

[BookEmDanno]

Yeah, you need to re-download the patcher and re-create your USB drive. What I mean by mounting in Disk Utility is opening Disk Utility after booting off the patched USB drive, selecting the volume you intend to install onto, and selecting "Mount".

With your help and your mojave patcher apps, I succeeded in installing Mojave 10.14.1 beta 2 on an unsupported Mac. And the boot drive is formatted in APFS Encrypted with your assistance/recommendation above.



Mahalo Nui Loa (Thank You very much)!~

 

[Starplayr]

I can select my El Cap startup disk from Mojave. Not sure if it's different for installer drivers.
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I think the issue might be with Disks that are on my PCIe bus.

I can select my El Cap startup disk from Mojave. Not sure if it's different for installer drivers.
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I think it has to do with disks on my PCIe bus. They are tteated as external. They are bootable and prior to the GM, they were visible.

I was able to bless my El Cap installer drive made with create media. It worked on the second try.

 

[Rastafabi]

@parrotgeek1, @dosdude1
I'm using your great tool(s) to install Mojave to may MacPro 4,1 which being flashed to a 5,1. I know, that it's officially supported, but as I rely on my GT120's boot screen the purpose is to circumvent the Metal GPU check. While I do have a Metal capable GPU in form of a GTX 1070 it is not supported yet as NVIDIA did not release any drivers so far, nor does it give an ETA. While older web drivers can be installed to achieve Displayoutput they do not enable acceleration. While I can use your patches to enable acceleration on the GT120 I wonder if the same would be possible for the NVIDIA web drivers. Would it work using NVDAShim and/or the old IOAccelerator drivers? Or is there anything else needed? This would also be interesting for the hugh Hackintosh community as they mainly rely on NVIDIA GPUs.

 

[jackluke]

To those who tested my ancient script "hybrid transparency" on page 279, here is a translation of the same into an AppleScript, so after launching it simply click the "play" button to switch between a translucent "dark mode" and a semi-translucent "light mode", this little applescript is intended only to be used on-the-fly, not as login item, however through Automator anyone can customize it as they want. As always it's totally safe and harmless.

 

[sirlindqvist]

Gosh... just installed Mojave on an iMac mid2011 and when I got into the OS I got weirdo colors etc. Doublechecked this thread for known glitches/solutions and realized my Radeon 6750 may never be supported. Any status on this? Got really disappointed, especially as I just before this install finished one on an iMac early2008 with no issues. Can’t really understand why it works on that computer but not on one that’s 3 years newer?

There’s no way to get this working?

EDIT: There’s really NO way to disable the AMD GPU in this machine? No work in progress for this or any other fix to get this work proper? External gfx card? Really sad those issues

 

[jackluke]

Gosh... just installed Mojave on an iMac mid2011 and when I got into the OS I got weirdo colors etc. Doublechecked this thread for known glitches/solutions and realized my Radeon 6750 may never be supported. Any status on this? Got really disappointed, especially as I just before this install finished one on an iMac early2008 with no issues. Can’t really understand why it works on that computer but not on one that’s 3 years newer?

There’s no way to get this working?

EDIT: There’s really NO way to disable the AMD GPU in this machine? No work in progress for this or any other fix to get this work proper? External gfx card? Really sad those issues

Yes but only to fix colors, consider that you will lose transparencies and video acceleration, if you want to try, from Mojave Terminal copy/paste in one-line:

sudo mv /System/Library/Extensions/AMDRadeonX3000.kext /System/Library/Extensions/AMDRadeonX3000.kext2

restart your mac
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hello. i managed to install mojave on an imac 8,1 with an upgraded wifi card (0x14E4, 0x112). my bluetooth is not working. does anyone know how to get it to work? thanks

Here @ThaRippa has fixed the issue with an almost identical wifi card as yours: fix Bluetooth 4.0 on Mojave

You have to take IOBluetoothFamily.kext and IOBluetoothHIDDriver.kext from HighSierra and then replacing into your Mojave /System/Library/Extensions/ , after you have to launch Terminal and fix permissions:

sudo chmod -R 755 /S*/L*/E*
sudo chown -R 0:0 /S*/L*/E*
sudo kextcache -i /
sudo reboot

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Hi, apologies in advance as I’m inputting this on my phone. Hoping there’s a simple fix I missed before cracking the box open...

iMac9,1 upgraded to Mojave final no problem, but it auto-updated to PB1 (my mistake).

My formerly fine APFS formatted SSD checks ok from single user mode (it ran great with High Sierra and Mojave final), but no matter what I boot with (dosdude's latest USB installer or an installed Mojave on HFS external drive), everything freezes at:

AppleLPC::notifyPlatformASPM - registering with plugin with ASPM Support false.

My guess is I have to pull the SSD out to reformat or something, but thought I’d run it by the pros here to see if I maybe just inadvertently reset something...I might try whipping up an ElCapitain install disk (latest "supported version") to see if I can at least get the thing to boot.

Regards,

I hope 10.14.1 upgrade hasn't forced a EFI firmware update on your machine, anyway try a twice PRAM reset, or as you said swap out the disk and try an El Capitan one.

 

[Charles Butcher]

So, Anyone can tell me if it is fine to install Mojave in my Macbook Pro 17 late 2011? In the first page says it´s almost unusable, but once installed I really can´t see anythinh wrong.

I've been using Mojave for a couple of days on my Mac mini mid-2011 2.3 GHz (Macmini5,1), and it seems fine. To judge from Geekbench (not sure if that's a good resource?) your MBP is about 20% faster than my Mac mini, so I'd say it should be OK for you.

Since I'm not very technical, I don't understand what performance hits to expect, if any, compared to High Sierra. Quartz Debug says I am getting 60 fps when watching video or moving windows around. Is that respectable?

My Magic Mouse seems a bit laggy, but maybe that's just a Bluetooth issue and I guess this Mojave release will have plenty of bugs of its own anyway. And text smoothing is not brilliant compared to HS. Apart from that, with the transparency tricks from webg3 and others, everything seems pretty good.

I'd welcome discussion here about which Macs are likely to benefit and which ones probably won't. My wife has a 2009 Mac mini that runs High Sierra brilliantly, thanks to dosdude1's excellent installer, but perhaps Mojave will be too much for it?

Anyway, a thousand thanks to everyone who has helped with this awesome project and the previous one for High Sierra. Hardware will go obsolete in the end, and I don't have a problem with that. But the 2011 Mac mini is a cracking little box, and to keep it up to date for a while longer will be great.

 

[hal90088]

Hello.

I have an iMac 7.1 and I installed High Sierra a year ago and all works right. I had to change the proccessor and the wifi/bluetooth card to make it work, but all worked fine.

Now I have installed Mojave and i notice two problems.

1) Bluetooth is not working. I readed the solution in internet: I have to change two kexts. These are the following.

IO80211Family.kext
IO80211FamilyV2.kext
IOBluetoothFamily.kext
IOBluetoothHIDDriver.kext

I take the kext of a backup of my high sierra installation. When i put it in the folder "/Sistema/Biblioteca/Extensiones" Bluetooth was working again. This problem is solved.

2) the brightness control doesn't work. I have an ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro 256 MB graphics card. All is working fine except the brightness control. As a workaround i installed an app of the app store called "brightness slider". with this app I can control the brightness, but the keyboard buttons of the brightness are not working. When i click them i can see the star and the signal that i am increasing or lowering the brightness but the brightness is the same. ¿Anybody knows a more elegant form to solve this trouble to make this buttons work again?

thanks.

Sorry for my poor english. I'm spanish and i don't speak english habitually

 

[sirlindqvist]

Yes but only to fix colors, consider that you will lose transparencies and video acceleration, if you want to try, from Mojave Terminal copy/paste in one-line:

sudo mv /System/Library/Extensions/AMDRadeonX3000.kext /System/Library/Extensions/AMDRadeonX3000.kext2

restart your mac
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Here @ThaRippa has fixed the issue with an almost identical wifi card as yours: fix Bluetooth 4.0 on Mojave

You have to take IOBluetoothFamily.kext and IOBluetoothHIDDriver.kext from HighSierra and then replacing into your Mojave /System/Library/Extensions/ , after you have to launch Terminal and fix permissions:

sudo chmod -r 755 /S*/L*/E*
sudo chown -r 0:0 /S*/L*/E*
sudo kextcache -i /
sudo reboot

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I hope 10.14.1 upgrade hasn't forced a EFI firmware update on your machine, anyway try a twice PRAM reset, or as you said swap out the disk and try an El Capitan one.

Works as described however it’s almost unusable without hw acceleration. That’s really true this likely to never ever happen on those Radeon 5xxx, 6xxx ?

 

[Charles Butcher]

I have an iMac 7.1 and I installed … Mojave and i notice … Bluetooth is not working. I readed the solution in internet: I have to change two kexts.

A general question: Under these circumstance does Bluetooth either "work" or "not work"? Or might there be benefits from replacing these kexts even if BT is not actually broken after installing Mojave?

The brightness control doesn't work. I have an ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro 256 MB graphics card. … As a workaround i installed an app of the app store called "brightness slider". with this app I can control the brightness, but the keyboard buttons of the brightness are not working. When i click them i can see the star and the signal that i am increasing or lowering the brightness but the brightness is the same. Anybody knows a more elegant form to solve this trouble to make this buttons work again?

(Your English is excellent by the way). Apologies if this is a silly question, but have you tried holding the key down for a long time (5–10 seconds)? As I understand it, Brightness Slider has two modes: first it tries to control the monitor brightness directly, and then at the dark end of the range it adds a grey overlay that makes the screen appear darker. With my Samsung monitor it cannot directly control the brightness, so when it's on the brightest setting I have to get down to the halfway point before I see any dimming. That takes several seconds.

Yesterday I thought "there has to be a better way", and I found NativeBrightnessControl. This controls the monitor brightness directly, which seems a better solution. It's a faceless app, so it's no good if it doesn't work with your particular keyboard. It also stopped working at one point yesterday, but in general it seems OK.

There is a forked version here that can also control colour, like Night Shift, but unlike the original it doesn't work with my keyboard (and the colour change didn't work either).

 

[saudor]

Yes but only to fix colors, consider that you will lose transparencies and video acceleration, if you want to try, from Mojave Terminal copy/paste in one-line:

sudo mv /System/Library/Extensions/AMDRadeonX3000.kext /System/Library/Extensions/AMDRadeonX3000.kext2

restart your mac
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for the colors, cant you also use resxtreme to change the bit depth from 8 to 4? that works for the HD 5000 at least (this weird color glitch has been present even in high sierra)

 

[jackluke]

Works as described however it’s almost unusable without hw acceleration. That’s really true this likely to never ever happen on those Radeon 5xxx, 6xxx ?

Never say never, perhaps if will be figured out a way to by-pass the SSE4.2 CPU instruction requirement or patched one of the many Framebuffers inside the legacy AMD/ATI Kexts, probably it will possible, however I address in general, there is no reason to ask for it continuo-sly, when it will available it will be written on the main OP.

 

[FlorisVN]

Works as described however it’s almost unusable without hw acceleration. That’s really true this likely to never ever happen on those Radeon 5xxx, 6xxx ?

Replace your iMac mxm video card.
There is a big topic about this here on MR.
You then get metal support, and much beter and reliable GPU !

Both 21,5 and 27” models have a replacable MXM graphics card. (2009-2011 models)

No bootscreen yet and some other small limitations at this time..
but a modded efi willl there be soon, thanks to Macvidcards !
Info here :
http://www.macvidcards.com/blog/imac-cards-coming

http://netkas.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=u5713h4ai3a9921qfq0psf6e9ejl4njq&topic=13815.0

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2011-imac-graphics-card-upgrade.1596614/

 

[hal90088]

A general question: Under these circumstance does Bluetooth either "work" or "not work"? Or might there be benefits from replacing these kexts even if BT is not actually broken after installing Mojave?

When I installed Mojave, Bluetooth can't work at all. I have an error saying "bluetooth not available" like this picture

When I replaced the kexts with the ones who was in the high sierra installation, the problem dissapear.

Before that i tryed to reset pram and smc but nothing works. My solution was the replacement of these kexts. Now bluetooth is fully ussable (as was in high sierra).

(Your English is excellent by the way). Apologies if this is a silly question, but have you tried holding the key down for a long time (5–10 seconds)? As I understand it, Brightness Slider has two modes: first it tries to control the monitor brightness directly, and then at the dark end of the range it adds a grey overlay that makes the screen appear darker. With my Samsung monitor it cannot directly control the brightness, so when it's on the brightest setting I have to get down to the halfway point before I see any dimming. That takes several seconds.

Yesterday I thought "there has to be a better way", and I found NativeBrightnessControl. This controls the monitor brightness directly, which seems a better solution. It's a faceless app, so it's no good if it doesn't work with your particular keyboard. It also stopped working at one point yesterday, but in general it seems OK.

There is a forked version here that can also control colour, like Night Shift, but unlike the original it doesn't work with my keyboard (and the colour change didn't work either).

Thanks for the suggestions. I tryed with both applications but they didn't solve the problem. I can see the "star" in the screen when i click in "f1" and "f2", but the brightness is the same. Pressing the buttons during 20 seconds didn't help too. I can see the star and the bars increasing an decreasing the brightness but the brightness is the same.

 

[Charles Butcher]

When I installed Mojave, Bluetooth can't work at all. I have an error saying "bluetooth not available" like this picture

I guess it either works properly or it doesn't work at all.

Thanks for the suggestions. I tryed with both applications but they didn't solve the problem. I can see the "star" in the screen when i click in "f1" and "f2", but the brightness is the same. Pressing the buttons during 20 seconds didn't help too. I can see the star and the bars increasing an decreasing the brightness but the brightness is the same.

Ah, I see what you mean by the "star" – the brightness indicator that is built into the OS. If you are seeing that, I think it means that Brightness Slider should be controlling the actual monitor brightness. In that case you should see the full brightness range, not just the "bottom half". So I don't know what's happening. This brightness control seems quite complicated.

 

[DaniloGeekDude]

With your help and your mojave patcher apps, I succeeded in installing Mojave 10.14.1 beta 2 on an unsupported Mac. And the boot drive is formatted in APFS Encrypted with your assistance/recommendation above.

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Mahalo Nui Loa (Thank You very much)!~

Sweet.

For me, I still cannot install and run on my un-supported MacBookPro5,5.

Thanks for the info.

 

[lukiy]

I am having problems with opening apps that used to work fine under High Sierra. But in Mojave, after clicking on the app icon, the icon just keeps bouncing forever on the dock.

Here is an example:

https://stuntsoftware.com/onthejob/

Just download the app, and try to open it.

Strangely, the app opens in safe mode, but not in full mode.

Is this expected on unsupported macs?

 

[Charles Butcher]

I am having problems with opening apps that used to work fine under High Sierra. But in Mojave, after clicking on the app icon, the icon just keeps bouncing forever on the dock … Here is an example: https://stuntsoftware.com/onthejob/

That works fine for me on my Mac mini 2011.

 

[lukiy]

That works fine for me on my Mac mini 2011.

Not working on my mid 2010 MPB! Any ideas what might be wrong?

 

[Charles Butcher]

When I installed Mojave, Bluetooth can't work at all. I have an error saying "bluetooth not available" like this picture

And as if by magic, just now along comes Legacy Bluetooth Patch, which Patch Updater seems to think I need. Thank you, dosdude1! Perhaps this will fix the sometimes laggy Magic Mouse.
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Not working on my mid 2010 MPB! Any ideas what might be wrong?

Beyond my pay grade, I'm afraid. Does everything else look OK for you, apart from those apps that don't load? Are those by any chance old apps, or from small developers? Code signing issues? Developer not on Apple's list (On The Job needed a trip to the Security prefpane)? 32-bit?