macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread

[DaniloGeekDude]

10.14.5 Beta 3 updated to latest Beta 4 (18F127a) on an unsupported MacBookAir,4,2.



Steps followed:

1. OTA (System Preferences | Software Updated). Took about 26 minutes to download and update.
2. Rebooted to @dosdude1's macOS Patch Updater v1.3.1.
3. Ran Post Install for my particular device including rebuild caches.
4. Rebooted to my Mojave Beta partition. Took about another 13 minutes to update.
5. Prompted to re-install patches. Did so and restarted.
6. Success, including graphics acceleration accomplished and no KPs (so far for about a couple of hours of testing). Still testing and will report back for any issues.

Patches with versions installed on my MacbookAir4,2 with Intel HD Graphics 3000.



As always, Thanks @dosdude1 for your excellent tool/app. It's all I ever needed to use on my unsupported mac.

 

[TimothyR734]

Successfully installed 10.14.4 on my iMac 9,1 2009 with macOS Mojave Patcher 1.3.1 had a few KP's but so far holding steady for a few hours Thank you dosdude1

 

[ASentientBot]

Just chiming in with my results on (manually installed and patched on HFS+) 10.14.5 DP4. It's working great! News is still crashing for me if I scroll or click News+, but it stays open indefinitely on the homepage. Flurry/acceleration/everything else remains functional.

Thanks to everyone who's keeping this worthy effort going.



You guys up for the next round in June after WWDC? I'm looking forward to it already

 

[TimothyR734]

Oh yeah - we are getting close to WWDC19. I think .5 will release before the first 10.15 preview/beta though. And at least one more Mojave point upgrade during the summer.

Yes there most likely be one more update if they follow like they did with High Sierra 10.14.6 High Sierra 10.13.6

 

[pkouame]

Just chiming in with my results on (manually installed and patched on HFS+) 10.14.5 DP4. It's working great! News is still crashing for me if I scroll or click News+, but it stays open indefinitely on the homepage. Flurry/acceleration/everything else remains functional.

Thanks to everyone who's keeping this worthy effort going.

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You guys up for the next round in June after WWDC? I'm looking forward to it already

Definitely!

 

[TimothyR734]

Definitely!

Im ready to

 

[Hughmac]

I finally used the uncompleted macOS High Sierra patcher booted format then screen said reinstall macOS High Sierra I clicked it it took 10 hours to download and install 2 hours for the updates its slow but this is the box it came in it was supposed to have a 250 ssd but whoever first owned it messed it up replacing it with a hdd the battery won't charge and have no clue how to replace it the memory was mismatched so I fixed that but I only paid $50 for it

The SD on the box refers to SuperDrive; this MacBook originally came with a 250GB hard drive

See https://everymac.com/systems/apple/...-13-polycarbonate-unibody-mid-2010-specs.html

Cheers

Hugh

 

[jackluke]

and @K two. I remember pulling Build 18E226 of Mojave.

If it helps, these are the Product IDS and build versions currently available using the regular index and seed index:

Downloading https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-10.14-10.13-10.12-10.11-10.10-10.9-mountainlion-lion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog...
Downloading http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/12/40/091-95155/piv8296jbzadg8qb5m3gatbllz60d2flsw/InstallAssistantAuto.smd...
Downloading https://swdist.apple.com/content/downloads/12/40/091-95155/piv8296jbzadg8qb5m3gatbllz60d2flsw/091-95155.English.dist...
Downloading http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/32/45/041-56507/k6okp4vkzucqpoxrgrgycji6jo8z8na8sg/InstallAssistantAuto.smd...
Downloading https://swdist.apple.com/content/downloads/32/45/041-56507/k6okp4vkzucqpoxrgrgycji6jo8z8na8sg/041-56507.English.dist...
Downloading http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/44/42/041-47723/gt7p2zncc41nrdr8ahp0c4udjrf01r43kn/InstallAssistantAuto.smd...
Downloading https://swdist.apple.com/content/downloads/44/42/041-47723/gt7p2zncc41nrdr8ahp0c4udjrf01r43kn/041-47723.English.dist...
 #    ProductID    Version    Build   Post Date  Title
 1    041-47723    10.14.4  18E2034  2019-03-25  macOS Mojave
 2    091-95155    10.13.6    17G66  2019-01-08  macOS High Sierra
 3    041-56507    10.14.4   18E227  2019-04-18  macOS Mojave



Downloading https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-10.14seed-10.14-10.13-10.12-10.11-10.10-10.9-mountainlion-lion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog...
Downloading http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/12/40/091-95155/piv8296jbzadg8qb5m3gatbllz60d2flsw/InstallAssistantAuto.smd...
Downloading https://swdist.apple.com/content/downloads/12/40/091-95155/piv8296jbzadg8qb5m3gatbllz60d2flsw/091-95155.English.dist...
Downloading http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/37/33/041-40587/7nzzwfbvvpmccfh0bvgcatbsxb2eng0hyz/InstallAssistantAuto.smd...
Downloading https://swdist.apple.com/content/downloads/37/33/041-40587/7nzzwfbvvpmccfh0bvgcatbsxb2eng0hyz/041-40587.English.dist...
Downloading http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/32/45/041-56507/k6okp4vkzucqpoxrgrgycji6jo8z8na8sg/InstallAssistantAuto.smd...
Downloading https://swdist.apple.com/content/downloads/32/45/041-56507/k6okp4vkzucqpoxrgrgycji6jo8z8na8sg/041-56507.English.dist...
Downloading http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/34/47/041-03369/rsbnsn82mun7a480ipgu4r7inb0307i5sq/InstallAssistantAuto.smd...
Downloading https://swdist.apple.com/content/downloads/34/47/041-03369/rsbnsn82mun7a480ipgu4r7inb0307i5sq/041-03369.English.dist...
Downloading http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/44/42/041-47723/gt7p2zncc41nrdr8ahp0c4udjrf01r43kn/InstallAssistantAuto.smd...
Downloading https://swdist.apple.com/content/downloads/44/42/041-47723/gt7p2zncc41nrdr8ahp0c4udjrf01r43kn/041-47723.English.dist...
 #    ProductID    Version    Build   Post Date  Title
 1    041-47723    10.14.4  18E2034  2019-03-25  macOS Mojave
 2    091-95155    10.13.6    17G66  2019-01-08  macOS High Sierra
 3    041-03369      10.14  18A384a  2018-09-12  macOS Mojave Beta
 4    041-56507    10.14.4   18E227  2019-04-18  macOS Mojave
 5    041-40587    10.14.4  18E194e  2019-02-20  macOS Mojave Beta

Very helpful, however I noticed in my machines sometimes OTA updates don't "change" the Version.plist or in some cases the Info.plist but update only the internal "Contents" core binary files, of course the "Version.plist" is just a formality, the true updates are indeed in the binary files, so for me if someone can check the 10.14.4.10 the Installer /usr/bin/ would helped a bit more, anyway from your script is almost clearly that from new builds the "date modified" are surely more recent than the first 18E226 or rather "March 21st" compiled binaries.

But I've two little observations to add:

1) from your list the "Post Date" can't represent the actual last core binaries "date modified", because it's almost impossible that apple developers re-compiled all their binaries to match the "Post Date" so probably the effective is 3 or more days before.

2) If I don't get wrong from your list the "ProductIDs" are essentially "folder packages repository names" and should represent every country in the world, but targeted to a primary language locale distribution and in some cases it could differ from the USA version.

And point 2) could be one of the main reason why News.app doesn't crash on different countries, because through the OTA update (based on the geo IP address rather than language selected) they "sell" a different "ProductID" for each country in the world, with infinitesimal or even negligible variations (calculus limit reminiscence), but I guess there are.

And that's also the reason why OTA DL pkgs sizes varies from country to country.

I don't know exactly where dosdude1's Mojave Patcher fetches its DL packages links, but surely from an USA repository, while some of us fetch from "System Update" OTA from their IP countries's CDN and I guess apple servers push to us another "ProductID" packages folder.

 

[webg3]

Success here also, I only changed the CoreDisplay.framework (0.3 or 0.4) in single user mode and reapplied the patches of dosdude1 (usb boot installer from 10.14.3 Mojave Patcher 1.30).

MacBookPro7,1 (2010, 13" GeForce 320m 256MB GDDR3, 16GB 1066MHz DDR3)

macOS Mojave 10.14.5b4

 

[pkouame]

Very helpful, however I noticed in my machines sometimes OTA updates don't "change" the Version.plist or in some cases the Info.plist but update only the internal "Contents" core binary files, of course the "Version.plist" is just a formality, the true updates are indeed in the binary files, so for me if someone can check the 10.14.4.10 the Installer /usr/bin/ would helped a bit more, anyway from your script is almost clearly that from new builds the "date modified" are surely more recent than the first 18E226 or rather "March 21st" compiled binaries.

But I've two little observations to add:

1) from your list the "Post Date" can't represent the actual last core binaries "date modified", because it's almost impossible that apple developers re-compiled all their binaries to match the "Post Date" so probably the effective is 3 or more days before.

2) If I don't get wrong from your list the "ProductIDs" are essentially "folder packages repository names" and should represent every country in the world, but targeted to a primary language locale distribution and in some cases it could differ from the USA version.

And point 2) could be one of the main reason why News.app doesn't crash on different countries, because through the OTA update (based on the geo IP address rather than language selected) they "sell" a different "ProductID" for each country in the world, with infinitesimal or even negligible variations (calculus limit reminiscence), but I guess there are.

And that's also the reason why OTA DL pkgs sizes varies from country to country.

I don't know exactly where dosdude1's Mojave Patcher fetches its DL packages links, but surely from an USA repository, while some of us fetch from "System Update" OTA from their IP countries's CDN and I guess apple servers push to us another "ProductID" packages folder.

If I'm not mistaken, there's a plist in the @dosdude1 's patcher called DownloadSettings that specifies the catalog. It is currently set to the catalog I used to pull the first list (my second list is the seed catalog). His plist also points to a plist on his site that defines the ProductID. Attached is the DownloadSettings.plist from the latest patcher.

Yes, info and version plists are sometimes "loose" indications of how something was built. 'otool -l' also gives a better idea of the actual load commands the dynamic loader uses (the commands stored in the binary dylib headers)

Keep in mind that some builds may have exact same binaries and mod dates, but different resources and assets so checking other folders in frameworks is important. I think I've seen that before. Apple's software configuration control is complex (as it should be) so sometimes I also check the text and code sizes within hopper to make sense of it all.
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Success here also, I only changed the CoreDisplay.framework (0.3 or 0.4) in single user mode and reapplied the patches of dosdude1 (usb boot installer from 10.14.3 Mojave Patcher 1.30).

MacBookPro7,1 (2010, 13" GeForce 320m 256MB GDDR3, 16GB 1066MHz DDR3)

macOS Mojave 10.14.5b4

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@dosdude1's latest patcher takes care of CoreDisplay for you. Not sure if it is the .3 or .4 version.

 

[webg3]

@pkouame
@dosdude1's latest patcher takes care of CoreDisplay for you. Not sure if it is the .3 or .4 version.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, I am now creating a new USB boot in 10.14.3

 

[jackluke]

@parrotgeek1 I have to rectify about dualGPUs, even if I did uploaded some pages ago the right folder, I have used all those "AGC replacements" but I've double checked and they are instead from 10.13.6 build 17G6030 , for some reason I named wrongly my backup folder "10.14.4 for 5b3" but they were instead all from 10.13.6 , I can 99% guarantee they will work this time for any dualGPUs systems (and singleGPU too), here is attached the exact folder I used on 10.14.5 beta 4.

Please note that the HighSierra GPUWrangler.framework is mandatory to support the entire HS AGC kext and this framework can only be replaced from single user mode since it's constantly in use by the system.

This was my previous post correctly edited: dualGPUs on .5 beta 4

To others: just to add another thing using "CoreDisplay.framework" from 10.13.6 also works perfectly on Mojave .5 beta 4 , infact many of you that are already using this CoreDisplay.framework I did uploaded, that contains inside also a CoreDisplay.tbd and binary with "date modified" March 28th, it's from HighSierra (latest Security 002 build 17G6030) but it works fine too, so do not worry! You can continue use it quietly.

 

[K two]

Now that you have a stick with .4 and the latest patcher. OTA updating to .5b4 (+ postinstall again of course) should be more stable with functional screensavers and fewer KPs. If you're lucky, a functional News too.

Took your advice. The Mini3,1 is still HFS+ so it'll take awhile but here is the iMac11,2 on .5b4.

No KPs since last night.

 

[DaniloGeekDude]

10.14.5 Beta 3 updated to latest Beta 4 (18F127a) on an unsupported MacBookAir,4,2.

View attachment 834645

Steps followed:

1. OTA (System Preferences | Software Updated). Took about 26 minutes to download and update.
2. Rebooted to @dosdude1's macOS Patch Updater v1.3.1.
3. Ran Post Install for my particular device including rebuild caches.
4. Rebooted to my Mojave Beta partition. Took about another 13 minutes to update.
5. Prompted to re-install patches. Did so and restarted.
6. Success, including graphics acceleration accomplished and no KPs (so far for about a couple of hours of testing). Still testing and will report back for any issues.

Patches with versions installed on my MacbookAir4,2 with Intel HD Graphics 3000.

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As always, Thanks @dosdude1 for your excellent tool/app. It's all I ever needed to use on my unsupported mac.

Just an update on my testing this version.

• News run fine, but "dies" after selecting the "News+" channel.
• No KPs since yesterday. I've been logged in more than 24 hours since yesterday's update.
• My preferred apps such as Homebrew and Xcode still working.
• Forgot to mention yesterday that I'm using Hybrid Patch v1.4.3 (18E226). Thanks @pkouame for this. Any updates (even beta) that I could test?
• That's all for now.

My speculation, as in others, is that the 10.14.5 GM/Final version will be coming out soon.

Regards everyone.

 

[pkouame]

Just an update on my testing this version.

• News run fine, but "dies" after selecting the "News+" channel.
• No KPs since yesterday. I've been logged in more than 24 hours since yesterday's update.
• My preferred apps such as Homebrew and Xcode still working.
• Forgot to mention yesterday that I'm using Hybrid Patch v1.4.3 (18E226). Thanks @pkouame for this. Any updates (even beta) that I could test?
• That's all for now.

My speculation, as in others, is that the 10.14.5 GM/Final version will be coming out soon.

Regards everyone.

I think we're close to a public .5 so I should be able to provide some Light Mode patches soon. I always need testers, so will keep you posted.
Question: does your News work after you start scrolling non-News+ content. Mine crashes consistently in the same place in com.apple.coreImage (the call to init a CI:GLContext)

 

[hvds]

10.14.5 Beta 3 updated to latest Beta 4 (18F127a) on an unsupported MacBookAir,4,2.

View attachment 834645

Steps followed:

1. OTA (System Preferences | Software Updated). Took about 26 minutes to download and update.
2. Rebooted to @dosdude1's macOS Patch Updater v1.3.1.
3. Ran Post Install for my particular device including rebuild caches.
4. Rebooted to my Mojave Beta partition. Took about another 13 minutes to update.
5. Prompted to re-install patches. Did so and restarted.
6. Success, including graphics acceleration accomplished and no KPs (so far for about a couple of hours of testing). Still testing and will report back for any issues.

Patches with versions installed on my MacbookAir4,2 with Intel HD Graphics 3000.

View attachment 834646

As always, Thanks @dosdude1 for your excellent tool/app. It's all I ever needed to use on my unsupported mac.

MBP5,2 17" on 10.14.5 PB4 now. - Updating wasn't that smooth this time.

In 9600M GT mode all the time. Reset NVRAM, then sudo nvram boot-args="keepsyms=1" for KP diagnostics.

First attempt:
- clean install of 10.14.3 (version 14.3.2) with patcher 1.2.3
- update directly to 10.14.5b4 OTA, apply post-install patches with patcher 1.3.1
- no further manual changes
-> boots OK, during login to user account (while desktop being filled) KP. GPU kexts not involved afaikt

Second:
- clean install of 10.14.4 (14.4.08) with patcher 1.3.0
- update to 10.14.5b4 OTA, apply post-install patches with patcher 1.3.1
- no further manual changes
-> boots OK, login OK, but few minutes later KP (still in 9600 mode). GPU kexts not involved. Unfortunately lost the protocols when installinmg again.
- used patch updater to re-install all patches. That took at least 5min and asked for the password 2nd time while working
-> still KP as before patch updating

Third:
- clean install of 10.14.3 (version 14.3.2) with patcher 1.2.3
- update directly to 10.14.5b4 OTA, apply post-install patches with patcher 1.3.0
- in single-user mode put .4 CoreDisplay.framework into /System/Library/Frameworks
-> boot, login. so far, so good after 2hrs. Still 9600
-> KP, report attached. My MBP5,2 with 9600 was stable with 10.14.5b2 and b3. I don't think it is a faulty hardware because the system ran well under 10.14.3 the last few days.

Forth to come: on top of this install jackluke's "10136 set for 5b4 dualGPUs" (post #14837)

Positive: the file system and user contents survived the experimenting with many KPs and clean installs very well.
And thanks to dosdude and all other contributors! Great progress already.

@dosdude1: on MBP5,2 is it possible that patches made with patcher 1.3.1, and those made with 1.3.0 + .4 CoreDisplay aren't equivalent?

 

[pkouame]

MBP5,2 17" on 10.14.5 PB4 now. - Updating wasn't that smooth this time.

In 9600M GT mode all the time. Reset NVRAM, then sudo nvram boot-args="keepsyms=1" for KP diagnostics.

First attempt:
- clean install of 10.14.3 (version 14.3.2) with patcher 1.2.3
- update directly to 10.14.5b4 OTA, apply post-install patches with patcher 1.3.1
- no further manual changes
-> boots OK, during login to user account (while desktop being filled) KP. GPU kexts not involved afaikt

Second:
- clean install of 10.14.4 (14.4.08) with patcher 1.3.0
- update to 10.14.5b4 OTA, apply post-install patches with patcher 1.3.1
- no further manual changes
-> boots OK, login OK, but few minutes later KP (still in 9600 mode). GPU kexts not involved. Unfortunately lost the protocols when installinmg again.
- used patch updater to re-install all patches. That took at least 5min and asked for the password 2nd time while working
-> still KP as before patch updating

Third:
- clean install of 10.14.3 (version 14.3.2) with patcher 1.2.3
- update directly to 10.14.5b4 OTA, apply post-install patches with patcher 1.3.0
- in single-user mode put .4 CoreDisplay.framework into /System/Library/Frameworks
-> boot, login. so far, so good after 2hrs. Still 9600
-> KP, report attached. My MBP5,2 with 9600 was stable with 10.14.5b2 and b3. I don't think it is a faulty hardware because the system ran well under 10.14.3 the last few days.

Forth to come: on top of this install jackluke's "10136 set for 5b4 dualGPUs" (post #14837)

Positive: the file system and user contents survived the experimenting with many KPs and clean installs very well.
And thanks to dosdude and all other contributors! Great progress already.

@dosdude1: on MBP5,2 is it possible that patches made with patcher 1.3.1, and those made with 1.3.0 + .4 CoreDisplay aren't equivalent?

Look at your crash logs after KPs. Panics so shortly after login are not normal. When you say clean install - is it totally clean - ie. do you wipe (erase) the volume before you re-install?

 

[DaniloGeekDude]

I think we're close to a public .5 so I should be able to provide some Light Mode patches soon. I always need testers, so will keep you posted.
Question: does your News work after you start scrolling non-News+ content. Mine crashes consistently in the same place in com.apple.coreImage (the call to init a CI:GLContext)

News crashes, be it scrolling non-News+ content or selecting any available channels.



As for your latest hybrid patch beta, has it been checked-in your Github site? Thanks.

 

[hvds]

Look at your crash logs after KPs. Panics so shortly after login are not normal. When you say clean install - is it totally clean - ie. do you wipe (erase) the volume before you re-install?

No, not totally clean. Just installed over the existing disk with dosdude‘s scheme.
Maybe next should be an erase, install, and pull contents in from backup.

EDIT: I had forgotten to attach the KP report mentioned under Third. Here it is

 

[pkouame]

News crashes, be it scrolling non-News+ content or selecting any available channels.

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As for your latest hybrid patch beta, has it been checked-in your Github site? Thanks.

No not yet, I will keep you posted when it is in beta.

If you scroll down in the news crash log you should get to the thread that actually crashed.
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No, not totally clean. Just installed over the existing disk with dosdude‘s scheme.
Maybe next should be an erase, install, and pull contents in from backup.

Only way to guarantee a clean install is to erase the disk first. Otherwise remnants of the previous configuration still linger, may or may not be a factor but a good thing to keep in mind. A wipe and install always gets me back to a known (relatively) stable state. Your system is KPing so much at odd points that I would recommend starting from scratch. I know - it's a pain...
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No, not totally clean. Just installed over the existing disk with dosdude‘s scheme.
Maybe next should be an erase, install, and pull contents in from backup.

EDIT: I had forgotten to attach the KP report mentioned under Third. Here it is

Ok. just saw the new attachment.

Looks like the kernel is crashing handling kexts. Your last loaded kexts are filesystems.msdosfs and NVDAStartup. You may have some problematic kexts in your /S/L/Extensions folder.

You may also want to get more data from your system logs in /var/log/system.log and the archived logs in the same directory.

At this point, I would highly recommend a "pristine" clean install + post-install + force rebuild. At least that gets you back to a known state in 10.4.3 (which is pretty stable)

 

[DaniloGeekDude]

No not yet, I will keep you posted when it is in beta.

If you scroll down in the news crash log you should get to the thread that actually crashed.
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Only way to guarantee a clean install is to erase the disk first. Otherwise remnants of the previous configuration still linger, may or may not be a factor but a good thing to keep in mind. A wipe and install always gets me back to a known (relatively) stable state. Your system is KPing so much at odd points that I would recommend starting from scratch. I know - it's a pain...
[doublepost=1556743913][/doublepost]
Ok. just saw the new attachment.

Looks like the kernel is crashing handling kexts. Your last loaded kexts are filesystems.msdosfs and NVDAStartup. You may have some problematic kexts in your /S/L/Extensions folder.

You may also want to get more data from your system logs in /var/log/system.log and the archived logs in the same directory.

At this point, I would highly recommend a "pristine" clean install + post-install + force rebuild. At least that gets you back to a known state in 10.4.3 (which is pretty stable)

Saw the thread that crashed, and it does indicate com.apple.CoreImage.



Anyone found a fix for the News crashes? Thanks.

 

[pkouame]

Saw the thread that crashed, and it does indicate com.apple.CoreImage.

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Anyone found a fix for the News crashes? Thanks.

Not that I know of. Pretty much all the News Apps that crash under .4+ and .5+ crash at exactly the same point.
This will become more challenging As Apple rolls out or re-engineers more apps like that.
@jackluke has tested a configuration where News (less News+) is stable.

 

[webg3]

Not that I know of. Pretty much all the News Apps that crash under .4+ and .5+ crash at exactly the same point.
This will become more challenging As Apple rolls out or re-engineers more apps like that.
@jackluke has tested a configuration where News (less News+) is stable.

Here have not presented any Kernel Panic, is it because News+ or News is not available in my country, and also because it is a single GPU?

Nvidia GeForce 320m 256MB GDDR3, system running fine.

10.14.5b4

 

[pkouame]

Here have not presented any Kernel Panic, is it because News+ or News is not available in my country, and also because it is a single GPU?

Nvidia GeForce 320m 256MB GDDR3, system running fine.

10.14.5b4

Those are interesting twists. Unfortunately I don't have a single gpu unsupported to test.

While News+ is not supported everywhere yet, I think everyone can change their preferences->Language & Regions to US, UK or AU and launch it to check it out.

Again, I'm not sure but maybe others in foreign countries can pitch in.

 

[ASentientBot]

Here have not presented any Kernel Panic, is it because News+ or News is not available in my country, and also because it is a single GPU?

Nvidia GeForce 320m 256MB GDDR3, system running fine.

10.14.5b4

I have the MacBook7,1 with GeForce 320M as well. News crashes after scrolling a little or clicking News+, but if I don't touch it at all, it never does.

Crash log looks the same as the other ones that've been posted.

Edit: You said kernel panic. Do you mean crash in News or do you actually mean a full system panic? I'm confused now. I think I misread your post... oops.