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Is this Security Update 2019-001 and Safari 13.0.3 safe to install on my MacBookPro4,1 (17" Early 2008 MacBook Pro 2.6 GHZ Core 2 Duo, 6GB RAM, 500GB SSD) that's currently running Mojave 10.14.6 perfectly with macOS Mojave Patcher and bkltpatch10.14.2 ? It just showed up in Software Update

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Just tried it on my MacBook air 4.2. Used OTA but system would not restart. Booted with patcher USB and repatched. System now ok - so make sure you have the latest patcher usb handy.
 
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Didn't get any response to my earlier question (above) about Time Machine usage on an "unsupported" machine. From some discussion in this thread I gather that bare metal recovery from a backup cannot be done due to missing firmware support. But, is it possible to use the patcher USB stick to revert to an APFS snapshot? Or, does that require a recovery partition? Still not getting the complete picture.
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And, another question. I currently have dosdude's legacy video card driver installed to support the stock GeForce 8800 GT, but am planning to update my Mac Pro 3,1 to an Nvidia GTX780 (w/ UEFI firmware). What is the procedure for removing the legacy video driver?
 
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And, another question. I currently have dosdude's legacy video card driver installed to support the stock GeForce 8800 GT, but am planning to update my Mac Pro 3,1 to an Nvidia GTX780 (w/ UEFI firmware). What is the procedure for removing the legacy video driver?
Have the latest USB patcher to hand. Swap out graphic cards. Boot to USB patcher with the GTX780 and reinstall Mojave over the top of your present system. Patch as required but remember not to select the legacy video drivers. Oh, and backup first just in case.
 
Have the latest USB patcher to hand. Swap out graphic cards. Boot to USB patcher with the GTX780 and reinstall Mojave over the top of your present system. Patch as required but remember not to select the legacy video drivers. Oh, and backup first just in case.

Thanks, Flacko, but no one has answered my question about Time Machine backup, so still a bit in the dark about what to backup and how it can be restored.
 
Thanks, Flacko, but no one has answered my question about Time Machine backup, so still a bit in the dark about what to backup and how it can be restored.

Have you considered experimenting a bit and then telling us all the good news? After all it is a collaborative effort and you will get that good feeling of accomplishment after you do some work.
 
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Have you considered experimenting a bit and then telling us all the good news? After all it is a collaborative effort and you will get that good feeling of accomplishment after you do some work.

Fair enough. I've clearly overstepped the unspoken bounds of this forum and for that I apologize. Not always simple for a newcomer to forsee what the regulars might find annoying.
 
Thanks, Flacko, but no one has answered my question about Time Machine backup, so still a bit in the dark about what to backup and how it can be restored.
Hi, I do not use Time Machine that much and tend to rely on bootable clones using Carbon Copy Cloner. However I have had a quick look on my cMP3.1 for you. The USB patcher install can be used for recovery. Booting into the USB gives you the option to restore from a Time Machine Backup. Selecting an APFS drive will give you a list of Local Snapshots to restore. Have not carried on beyond this stage as cMP3.1 has been rock solid and so I have not needed this but it looks like you can restore from a Snapshot using the USB installer.
 
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Hi, I do not use Time Machine that much and tend to rely on bootable clones using Carbon Copy Cloner. However I have had a quick look on my cMP3.1 for you. The USB patcher install can be used for recovery. Booting into the USB gives you the option to restore from a Time Machine Backup. Selecting an APFS drive will give you a list of Local Snapshots to restore. Have not carried on beyond this stage as cMP3.1 has been rock solid and so I have not needed this but it looks like you can restore from a Snapshot using the USB installer.

Thanks much! I have a 2TB drive coming in today that I plan to use for Time Machine backup and experiments.
 
IS the build 18G1012 downloadable via dosDudepatcher yet? Yesterday I've got only again the old 18G103.
 
I installed Security "Update 2019-001 and Safari 13.0.3" using OTA then used dosdude1 patcher on my MBP8,1, all working fine, expect, Siri not working when I press on it.
 
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Kernel Panic on sec update 2019-001 install. Sorted that out by reapplying post-install patches from USB patcher + PRAM reset and reapplying the update, which was successfully installed. Disk utility shows no issues with disk structure. But unable to boot into safe mode from this APFS volume. Shows no entry symbol when I try.

Cleared Launch Services Database, boot and kernel caches, but still refused to boot into safe mode.

Any ideas to troubleshoot this further? Thanks.

EDIT: since safe mode disables anything third party etc., should I even be able to boot to safe mode from the patcher software? Is it preventing a safe boot similar to the way it prevents enabling SIP?
 
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Got 18G103 on Oct. 31 8pm CDT. So, not as yet.

I believe the Security Updates are usually kept separate from the full installer, only Supplemental Updates are included. So my guess is that 18G103 will be the very last full installer.
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I installed Security "Update 2019-001 and Safari 13.0.3" using OTA then used dosdude1 patcher on my MBP8,1, all working fine, expect, Siri not working when I press on it.

Did you apply the Siri patch? Siri should work(without soundwave) OOB. I got the same result as you with the 10.14.3 SiriUI.framework.
 
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I believe the Security Updates are usually kept separate from the full installer, only Supplemental Updates are included. So my guess is that 18G103 will be the very last full installer.
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Did you apply the Siri patch? Siri should work(without soundwave) OOB. I got the same result as you with the 10.14.3 SiriUI.framework.

I applied the patch yes, but still when I click on it nothing initialized.
 
Successfully installed Security Update 2019-001 and Safari 13.0.3 using OTA and @dosdude1 patcher 1.3.3 followed by bkltpatch10.14.2 ("Backlight Patch" for its 17" CCFL display) on my MBP4,1
 
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Does this mean, using HFS+ on older machines will not allow to install the Security Update 2019-001 until this will be included in a new full installer (or not). Remember: OTAs are not usable on HFS+ machines.
Is there hope? Or was this the last full installer, as avz wrote?
 
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So the only solution from my POV, to be able to install the security update on older machines is to formate the HD from HFS+ to APFC. Does then a backup work from a copy from a HFS+ HD?
 
Seems like I'm not the only one who wants to install Security Update 2019-001 on an HFS+ installation. Is anyone looking into it or do we give up all hope?

The reason I use HFS+ is that I have a Hard Drive NOT an SSD and APFS based Mojave performs like a dead slug
 
Just making a CCC Backup, and giving APFS a try...even with HDD.
May the force be with me.
 
I applied the patch yes, but still when I click on it nothing initialized.

I meant it was a mistake applying a SIRI patch.
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Seems like I'm not the only one who wants to install Security Update 2019-001 on an HFS+ installation. Is anyone looking into it or do we give up all hope?

The reason I use HFS+ is that I have a Hard Drive NOT an SSD and APFS based Mojave performs like a dead slug

There is a separate thread for the Mojave on HFS+ and it has nothing to do with the unsupported Macs. It is MUCH easier getting an SSD than keeping a mule APFS drive for updates only and then cloninig it to your HFS+ drive.
 
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Good news also for old MacBook 4,1.
Mojave 10.14.6 build 18G1012 (Sec. Update 2019-001) works fine.
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For the manually patching folks: Find the prelinked kernel for 10.14.6 here.
 
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I meant it was a mistake applying a SIRI patch.
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There is a separate thread for the Mojave on HFS+ and it has nothing to do with the unsupported Macs. It is MUCH easier getting an SSD than keeping a mule APFS drive for updates only and then cloninig it to your HFS+ drive.
Unfortunately I don't have two brass farthings to rub together, so an SSD is not an option
 
Unfortunately I don't have two brass farthings to rub together, so an SSD is not an option

Well, Mavericks on HDD destroys Mojave on SSD even on a bad day(on unsupported system). Don't get me wrong, Mojave is super cool and performs reasonably well on a non-metal system but hardware/software optimization can never be overlooked and is extremely important to the performance. That is why it is a utopia to have only one Mac OS that performs great across all the hardware. It is a true gift that we can pick and choose the OS that suits our hardware.
 
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