My apple CD/DVD drive works great in Ventura 13.2. I am listening to a music CD as I type.
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macOS 13.2 Breaks Compatibility With Pioneer's CD/DVD Drives [Updated]
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Hell, that's one of the reasons I still have my 2007 iMac. Still boots up and works just fine for Ripping/Burning CD's. Yep, I still use a CD player. If you want to own music (rather than rent on a streaming platform), CD's are incredibly good value.
Pioneer made no changes, but Apple did. Chances are thi is just another sloppy bug introduced by Apple's moron programmers...
Rarely, but when you need them, you need them.
Maybe not. Look what happened to Philips. They invented the technology. Now they just license out their name to stamp on cheap Chinese clock radios.
My apple DVD/CD drive works great. I am burning a CD or importing a CD to the music app as I type. Thinking back to the year 1999 when I first heard this CD. Back then everyone was ripping CD's on their computers.
So, I guess the transition from Intel to Apple Silicon was also sloppy considering, it didn't even break compatibility with apps. Some are even reporting Intel apps run better on Apple Silicon. Considering Apple hasn't included an optical drive in any of their Macs for years yet maintained compatibility, you could cut them some slack here. This is a two way street. Apple can't test every since configuration and setup under the sun, but Pioneer can at least have one of their 2,000 employees test betas make sure their devices are compatible.
You don't need to install software or device drivers to use these drives on a Mac. There is something called Drive Utility, but it's not strictly needed.
So why should they need a developer account and a Mac mini? This is up to Apple to fix.
I have had a TSSTCorp SH-S222L external for years. I did notice that, when it is connected, my cursor movement is jerky. It’s to the point, where I miss target areas I want to click on.
But, I still occasionally have a CD I want to rip. Remember “Rip, Mix, Burn!”?
But, I still occasionally have a CD I want to rip. Remember “Rip, Mix, Burn!”?
Those of us that don't want to rent our content.
This is only partially true. If you read the license agreements movie studios can pull their movies from the iTunes Store and your purchase will be gone. Then you have to repurchase a movie from the studios own platform.
Games have disappeared from game platforms for the same reason.
CD, DVD and Blu-ray sales are still good in stores that sell them, new or used. Vinyl and cassette sales have made comeback in recent years. No medium truly ever dies.
As stated by other poster, Blu-ray UHD titles have better quality and depth than streaming and that will still be the case when 6K and 8K titles are released.
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It’s difficult to even give away CDs/DVDs now. I can imagine that this would be a golden time if you were a collector…
Thankfully I saw this before updating. I use a Pioneer BD drive all of the time.
IF they pull it then it surely stays in your collection, no? And if not then Apple has to give you a refund so either way you have a solution. AFAIK, once you buy a movie its in your itunes collection and its downloaded on your drive. The rights to play shouldn't be taken away, no?
No, if their agreement with Apple ends then the content cannot be distributed by Apple.
This has happened on Amazon and other places. It’s worth googling about.
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But you still need to get it somehow. Some content is not available online (for example audio recordings that have not been remastered).
As a software developer, I wonder what exactly triggered this problem here - so strange!
Interesting. My MBP stopped recognizing my external seagate drives when I updated to 13.2. Still waiting to hear back from support.
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Setting your dismissive snark aside, people do have legitimate reasons to use physical media.
For one, there are still movies and albums that never made it to streaming and are only available as DVDs or CDs. If you want to migrate them to formats you can play on your digital devices, you need to ingest them somehow. But maybe if your tastes are severely limited, you've never wanted to watch or listen to something you couldn't readily stream.
Also, you don't own much of anything when you "buy" streaming digital media. You are licensed to play it, but try transferring that to someone else. Try lending it out like you would a book. Try selling it on a secondary market when you're done with it, as you could with a record or blu-ray or a disc-based video game. And good luck to you if some copyright dispute somewhere pulls if offline.
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