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dim_

macrumors newbie
May 25, 2021
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Unfortunately this is Apple, they often break things in new major versions, and sometimes even in minor versions. :)

I think the only way to get them to change anything is by filing as many bug reports as possible.

My guess is that it affects a relatively small amount of users (relative to the total number of people using MacBooks). You have to have a fairly expensive HDR monitor, high refresh rate, and a good USB-C or displayport cable to even be able to use it!
 

AironMan

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Jan 29, 2021
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Unfortunately this is Apple, they often break things in new major versions, and sometimes even in minor versions. :)

I think the only way to get them to change anything is by filing as many bug reports as possible.

My guess is that it affects a relatively small amount of users (relative to the total number of people using MacBooks). You have to have a fairly expensive HDR monitor, high refresh rate, and a good USB-C or displayport cable to even be able to use it!
Yes only bug reports will help, this is a thing the people dont understand. Only flooding blogs with problems does not help when apple has to fix this.
 

zimbu

macrumors newbie
Oct 23, 2014
7
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The 14.3.1 release notes list "Text may unexpectedly duplicate or overlap while typing" as a bug fix. It is my fond hope that it refers to this issue.
 

gank41

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2008
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I've been noticing lately that when I try and watch any downloaded movies in the TV app on my M1 MBP, I'm getting this error:

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I've checked my settings in the TV app and have it set like this:


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I've gone thru my Display Settings and have tried adjusting a bunch of different ways, but still no go. I'm having no issues streaming anything. Seems ridiculous that this would be changed after how long??
 

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nazarkokhan

macrumors newbie
Oct 25, 2022
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Same for me. MBP Pro M1 max. I never did backups but now i get it 😅. I will have to comeback to ventura because command

softwareupdate --list-full-installers

doesnt list 14.0 version that was working good. Does anybody know where to get installer for 14.0?
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WilliamG

macrumors G4
Mar 29, 2008
10,007
3,894
Seattle
Exact same issue on both my LG 32GQ950-B 4K IPS and on my brand new MSI MPG 321URX 4K OLED on Sonoma 14.4 connected to my 2021 M1 Max 16" MacBook Pro. This is madness!
 
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smogsy

macrumors 6502a
Jan 8, 2008
592
2
mine is still there
14.4.1

3400x1440 100Hz
HDR ON

Running on DP-USB-C using Caldigit TB Hub4
 

the_lucifer

macrumors newbie
Apr 10, 2022
3
2
@smogsy Yes, you have it because you’re running it at 100Hz. The HDR option seems to go away at higher refresh rates (120Hz, 144Hz) at 1440p scaled mode
 

WilliamG

macrumors G4
Mar 29, 2008
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3,894
Seattle
@smogsy Yes, you have it because you’re running it at 100Hz. The HDR option seems to go away at higher refresh rates (120Hz, 144Hz) at 1440p scaled mode
At 3008x1692 at 144hz = no HDR. 3008x1692 at 95hz = no HDR.
At 2560x1440 at 144hz = no HDR. 2560x1440 at 95hz = HDR works.

This is on my 4K 32" LG 32GQ950-B.
 

ilikewhey

macrumors 68040
May 14, 2014
3,616
4,680
nyc upper east
anyone got a solution yet? just bought a innocn oled and HDR works perfect on my gaming pc, better than my samsung 49inch oled. however as soon as i connect it to my mbp its so washed out and unusable.
 

the_lucifer

macrumors newbie
Apr 10, 2022
3
2
anyone got a solution yet? just bought a innocn oled and HDR works perfect on my gaming pc, better than my samsung 49inch oled. however as soon as i connect it to my mbp its so washed out and unusable.
Only solutions so far seem to be either downgrading to Ventura (it will be supported with updates for a while longer) <or> lowering refresh rate/resolution (using BetterDisplay or similar softare) to get under the bandwidth cut-off that apple has set in Sonoma— 2432x1368 HiDPI at 120Hz seems to be the maximum possible combination for 4K currently, Github discussion here: https://github.com/waydabber/BetterDisplay/discussions/2706
 

the_lucifer

macrumors newbie
Apr 10, 2022
3
2
On an related (?) note, my personal M1 Max Macbook Pro is still on Monterey but every time I connect my Mac using a single USB C Cable to my monitor (a CoolerMaster GP27U, 4k160Hz with 96W PD), macOS panics and crashes with the following error after a reboot. Only happens when connecting this monitor (haven't used any other monitor). it's not all the time and it works many times, though crashes seem to be more and more common now.

Code:
SOCD report detected: (iBoot panic)

From my research about this panic it looks like the display firmware just ***** the bed forcing a panic? Maybe this is why Apple nerfed M1s across the board?

Rubbing more salt onto wound, while my family was visiting me I updated their M2 Pro MacBook Pro from 14.0 to 14.5 and it looks like M2 Pros got additional support for 4K 160Hz with HDR (1440p scaled mode) over the same USB C cable. This didn't exist on 14.0 before and topped out at scaled 4k at 144Hz without HDR:

Screenshot 2024-06-06 at 11.01.47 PM.png
 

kreasu_

macrumors regular
Mar 18, 2022
220
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hm I can't get this to work without a pro chip or higher, it seems like the base chips can't have 4k hdr high frequency and hdr.

Maybe this is why they only have hdmi 2.1 on mac mini pros and higher
 

TinyMito

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Nov 1, 2021
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As far I know now M2 Pro or higher can support 120hz 4k. Anything lower stuck at max 100hz for HDR.
 

dim_

macrumors newbie
May 25, 2021
20
5
FWIW, I installed Sequoia (15.0) in a separate volume on this M1 Air, and it still has the same behavior as macOS 14: no more HDR for these 'in-between' resolutions (2560x1440 and 3008x1692). For my use case, I will probably not be upgrading at all anymore. :)
 

WilliamG

macrumors G4
Mar 29, 2008
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3,894
Seattle
FWIW, I installed Sequoia (15.0) in a separate volume on this M1 Air, and it still has the same behavior as macOS 14: no more HDR for these 'in-between' resolutions (2560x1440 and 3008x1692). For my use case, I will probably not be upgrading at all anymore. :)
It actually just got worse. I just updated to the latest Sequoia 15.1, with Apple Intelligence, and now I've lost the ability to go above 95hz on the LG 32GQ950-B (HDR off). I was able to use 144hz I believe (either that or 120hz) before this latest update. If I change the res to 2560x1440 equivalent, I can get 144hz, but at my usual 3008x1692 option, now it's 95hz max. Ugh.
 

bryo

macrumors regular
Apr 6, 2021
102
169
Just set up my M4 Mac with my innocn 32M2V and have the exact same issue, 144hz 4k and 1080p gives me the HDR toggle, but the 1440p scaling option removes the HDR toggle. What the heck?? Seriously?
 

kreasu_

macrumors regular
Mar 18, 2022
220
139
Just set up my M4 Mac with my innocn 32M2V and have the exact same issue, 144hz 4k and 1080p gives me the HDR toggle, but the 1440p scaling option removes the HDR toggle. What the heck?? Seriously?
I guess there is still an os level limitation it only works below like 2300 or something
 

Sephiroth0

macrumors member
Dec 19, 2011
40
16
I have just received my new Mac mini M4 and facing the same issue with my Viewsonic XG320U. The only settings with working HDR and 144Hz are the smallest and largest resolutions. Everything in-between is disabling HDR and only possible with 120Hz. (MacOS 15.1)
 
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