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macOS Ventura (13.x) - Bugs

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Can't move the popup splash window around the screen like I could on every other system before ventura.
if I "save as" in safari or go to print to pdf, OR save as / download etc in other apps, the popup/splash frame will change size vertically & horizontally at the edges only -- I can't click and drag the frame to move the entire window to another part of the screen. THIS IS SO FLIPPING ANNOYING.
 
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sehnsucht77 said:
just upgraded to the latest update of Ventura and I am noticing the screen going black every so often. the computer does not reset though. anyone else seeing this? was not seeing it in the previous version.

Mac14,13 running Ventura 13.5
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I saw it frequently on Monterey; have not seen on ventura yet, but only recently upgraded (by mistake, thought I was merely downloading it - doink!).
 
Updated to 13.6 beta last night and back again by popular demand..Location Services is once not displaying info, it was fixed in the previous version, however here we are. Also some laggy System Settings, often 1 behind the current selection, which also was working correctly in the previous version, some strange behavior with the cursor, it appears at times to have a mind of its own, I experienced that in the previous beta.. Aside from that in the limited time behind the wheel that's the only 2+ "issues" I've encountered.
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Luckygreek said:
Updated to 13.6 beta last night and back again by popular demand..Location Services is once not displaying info, it was fixed in the previous version, however here we are.
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In terms of development, I suggest that the previous version to 13.6 beta is 13.5, not 13.5.1. By the time 13.6 is released it will have incorporated the bug fix in 13.5.1.
 
Agreed, very typical for beta's to have inherent "problems" that do get addressed with subsequent releases, however, they were addressed in prior OS, this beta has the same "issues" the prior beta had.
13.51 ran pretty flawlessly for me. The prior beta was problematic with the issues I explained above, jerky pointer, System Settings being pretty buggy, and Location Services not displaying properly.
My beta testing way back beginning with "Tiger" most often resulted in my computer turning into the "crashomatic" so yeah Monterey and Ventura beta way more stable.
 
Well I see we're nearly in the final third of 2023 upto release 13.5 and still when my Mac Studio wakes from sleep it moans that some USB accessories are taking too much power and have been disabled. A reboot always fixes it. Until next time. This problem only occurred after I 'upgraded' to Ventura some months ago, not long after the release of 13.3.

36 pages of a thread devoted to bugs in a single OS; maybe 13 is an unlucky number after all.
 
MajorFubar said:
Well I see we're nearly in the final third of 2023 upto release 13.5 and still when my Mac Studio wakes from sleep it moans that some USB accessories are taking too much power and have been disabled. A reboot always fixes it. Until next time. This problem only occurred after I 'upgraded' to Ventura some months ago, not long after the release of 13.3.

36 pages of a thread devoted to bugs in a single OS; maybe 13 is an unlucky number after all.
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Or maybe MacOS techs hired Bill Gates to consult...🤣
 
Anyone noticing occasional mouse or scrolling stutters on M2 Pro devices or any others?
 
Just noticed that page up/down scrolling a finder window skips over a file at the page break. Unbelievable.
 
Anyone seeing any weird visual glitches like messages flickering and frame rate drops on ProMotion?
 
Weather "time sensitive" alerts are being treated as regular notifications and not showing on the lockscreen, sometimes I will find them in the Notification Center without being notified.
 
Just recently updated to Ventura as my full time OS, and yeah it's surprisingly still pretty buggy. Especially the system settings. I've had to re-set a lot of settings twice for them to stay selected. Or quit out of system settings and launch it again to be able to adjust stuff because it become un responsive. The rest of the OS seems ok though, all apps working as they should. Networking mounts seem ok.
 
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orionquest said:
Just recently updated to Ventura as my full time OS, and yeah it's surprisingly still pretty buggy. Especially the system settings. I've had to re-set a lot of settings twice for them to stay selected. Or quit out of system settings and launch it again to be able to adjust stuff because it become un responsive. The rest of the OS seems ok though, all apps working as they should. Networking mounts seem ok.
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yeah i found system settings to be a touch slow, takes a second after ive clicked for it to move. also double click is a touch slow as well..
 
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Imagine if they stopped releasing annual 'new OS's' and instead concentrated on making an OS that was stable and bugfree. They had to do that when OS's shipped on a disc and anything but basic security-patches were too big to send over the internet. It had to be near perfect from day one.

It meant a lot back then being a final Release Candidate. From the RC was made the Gold Master, and from that, literally tens of thousands of CDs or DVDs would be 'stamped' and included in the boxes of new computers as OS restore-discs. The capability of that GM fundamentally defined the long-lasting user-experience. Especially for those people who weren't online.

It all means nothing now. They use basically the same principles in terms of defining the release-cycle, but in reality they know they can push out any old crap and worry about patching it later, where the 'patch' is infact a complete replacement for the entire OS.

Most people would surely rather have something that 100% works, with major releases timed less often, than a new OS every year with fresh bugs.
 
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installed 13.6 last week or so, all seems good until i opened up the calculator. i started typing in numbers when i clicked plus and added another number and pressed equals it said "this is not a number"...lmao ok.. whatever, if thats the worst bug i get, i can live with it.
 
xflashx said:
New bugs in 22A5352e:
  • Universal Control may not work

New bugs in 22A5342f:
  • Many Notification Center widgets are black or blank (new issue in beta 7)

Currently known bugs (Build 22A5266r):

  • Some users cannot access the internet
  • Alias for Safari in the Applications folder
  • Stage Manager sometimes crashes
  • Stage Manager animations have low framerate
  • Stage Manager apps (on the left) might automatically hide (bug or feature?)
  • Stage Manager may switch to a different app form the sidebar when returning from viewing a full-screen app
  • Cycling through the windows of an app in Stage Manager behaves differently depending on the speed you click. Clicking slow only cycles between the currently active window and the "top" window, clicking faster cycles through all windows of the app.
  • Animations in the Weather app flip when enabling the sidebar.
  • The new System Preferences is buggy, sometimes panels scroll/wobble upwhen they should have fixed height.
  • Moving the cursor in text with the keyboard is buggy, sometimes the cursor moves very fast/jumps, sometimes it moves very slow, character for character.
  • Wallet might throw the error "Could not set up Apple Pay"
  • Finder might refuse to copy files from a smb/nfs network share (due to allegedly insufficient permissions)
  • MAS/iTunes might not load
  • Mac might now wake up from sleep/panic during sleep
  • Notification sounds might play much later
  • "Utilities" folder missing when opening application folder from within the dock
  • might not be able to install new fonts
  • AirPods text for "Noise Cancellation" is inconsistent (all over the place). The term "Noise Cancellation" is used in iOS and iPadOS. On macOS Ventura, sometimes you see "Cancellation", "Noise Cancellation", and "Noise Control". The verbiage use on macOS Ventura for this should be consistent with what's used on iOS and iPadOS, and that is "Noise Cancellation". To see the inconsistencies, look at System Settings > AirPods Pro
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so its a new update and its not old its new so AirPods Pro Will work if you connect them to your Mac
 
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