I got excited with that updater, but no luck with any boot screen yet on my rx560, no recovery mode or anything, I guess that would need a firmware update but still, I have hope for it to come one day.
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My 580 hasn’t arrived yet, so I can’t say this from 1st hand experience, but recovery mode should work.
The base system (with drivers) is traditionally loaded and therefore should bring a graphical interface. There’s no way I can see Apple releasing the OS without a useable recovery mode for ALL users.
I can test that it’s there, but my current card has an EFI so there’s little point (other than proof of existence).
I’ll try in a few days... BTW, I’m sure you know already that recovery mode will let you set the startup disk too. So in a pinch, you could use this as a boot picker screen (a slow one however).
I've never been able to get into recovery mode on my rx560, or should i say, I have, but I've never gotten a graphical interface, I sit on a black screen, which I'm guessing is recovery mode without ever posting on my monitor.
That’s definitely not good news. I don’t think it will stay that way however, it just wouldn’t make sense to me, but I may be wrong.
Correct me if I'm wrong but getting into recovery mode is part of EFI boot and is impossible to do on unflashed GPU's, same with startup manager. This is why I've been hoping for a boot screen for so long on the rx560/80.
I can’t correct you.
The base system itself is a small OS bundle wrapped inside the APFS container. When I boot to recovery mode, I can see all my USB 3.0 drives. That tells me the bundle is loading OS drivers. Based on that I would expect the same to be true for video card drivers that ship with the OS. However, I don’t know if the absence of an EFI Card blocks it’s loading or not. I’ll be shocked if there isn’t a recovery option with the recommended video cards when it’s finally released. However one never knows until the fat lady sings.
TBH, both boot picker, and recovery mode should function even headless. I’ll check it myself in a couple of days. If I’m wrong, then add me to the frown list.
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I don't think the boot picker does work at all without an EFI GPU (thought I read that somewhere, but I could be wrong). It may work "blind" if you have an EFI card with no monitor connected to it, I don't know.
Recovery does work without an EFI GPU. I used it just the other week in Mojave to disable SIP to get handoff working. It sits on a black screen longer than a normal boot, but that's because booting into Recovery always takes longer than a normal boot. Since you can't use the boot picker, you just have to hold down ⌘R as soon as you hear the chime and then just wait for what feels like a long time.
Recovery does work without an EFI GPU. I used it just the other week in Mojave to disable SIP to get handoff working. It sits on a black screen longer than a normal boot, but that's because booting into Recovery always takes longer than a normal boot. Since you can't use the boot picker, you just have to hold down ⌘R as soon as you hear the chime and then just wait for what feels like a long time.
Makes perfect sense... No worries then. A slow boot to recovery mode will allow you to change startup disks in a pinch. That’s what I would expect.
Yeah, it's just a crappy solution IMHO due to the huge delay involved (I guess I'd say that it's a very "un-Apple-like solution", but yes a solution nonetheless.
I sure hope Apple is working on something. For me, FV2 is the biggie, but as a longtime OS X/macOS user the boot picker is second nature... will suck to lose it (unless that is, darthnvader can figure something out with rEFInd).
I sure hope Apple is working on something. For me, FV2 is the biggie, but as a longtime OS X/macOS user the boot picker is second nature... will suck to lose it (unless that is, darthnvader can figure something out with rEFInd).
I agree, I use BootPicker a lot. It wouldn’t surprise me that much if Apple dusted us off with FV2, just like they did with handoff/continuity. Most of us did a simple (non-Apple approved) upgrade to maintain the standard feature set of the OS, and I think DV is close to a working solution. It may take a while, but I think we’ll get there with or without Apple’s help.
Well it wouldn't exactly surprise me either, but I do think that the handoff thing is different. I think all of us who have done that upgrade can say that it is far from trivial--especially for the people Apple aimed the Mac Pro at--professionals and prosumers who aren't necessarily computer people--just need a fast and powerful computer to do their jobs. It's not just replacing the card but the hackery involved in joining it up with the BT connector/antenna that's problematic. In contrast, replacing a GPU is childs play (although now that I say that, the 580 can be a real !@#$% to line up with the slot).
Plus, handoff was a new feature, and it is understandable that Apple restricts new features that require new hardware to their newer Macs.
But this is a case where long-time cMP 5,1 users have already had a working boot picker and FV2 on their machines. And yet by doing this upgrade they are losing key functionality they used to have. I'm sure it's not totally unprecedented in Apple's history but it would be very unusual for Apple to take away a feature from a model that previously had it.
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Very nice. If you have a boot camp partition that gives a very good reason for reporting the bug. With the APFS file system Apple now forces on all Mojave installs, there is no way to get back to your macOS partition after you boot from Windows. The normal method (using the Boot Camp manager in Windows) doesn't work with APFS, and the other method (using the boot picker at startup) doesn't work with the recommended GPUs.
The only other ways are booting to recovery (a royal Pain in the arse due to the long boot delay and needing two reboots) or zapping the PRAM (which can have all kinds of unintended consequences--can't see Apple recommending that method).
The recovery partition now contain its own GPU driver. Works for any OOTB card. No Mac EFI required. Please check if your recovery partition is really there. Some guys clone their macOS to the SSD on PCIe card, and didn’t clone / create the recovery partition.
I can 100% confirm that my RX580 can access the recovery partition without any problem.
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Thanks, I was 99.9% sure, but not having a non-EFI Card at the moment, I can’t say 100% from my own experience.
Thanks, I was 99.9% sure, but not having a non-EFI Card at the moment, I can’t say 100% from my own experience.
I tested with 7950 UEFI ROM, R9 280 (original PC ROM), R9 380, and RX580. They all work.
Can we see what GPU driver that is? I mean, if it would be possible to load it in macOS. It appears not to require SSE4.2, as it seems QE/CI is enabled on an VEGA FE and Mac Pro 3.1.
That’s not new. I was able to get to the recovery partition with my RX580 long before mojave
Thank you fro your repsonse ,
Yes , unfortunately not, so after considering different options I'm replacing the monitor , I have reason to believe is the logic board on the LED Cinema Display causing the problem (I have been reading on this subject and found a guide online to troubleshoot problems ), buying a replacement board costs 169.00 dollars, having to open the display and fixing it is beyond my capacity .So I found a display for 180.00 dollars on eBay in fairly good shape and that's the way I'm solving this problem .. thanks for all the help
Sorry about that! I guess I was filled with a bit of misinformation, and I've jsut been impatient when testing recovery mode with it, thanks for the clarification everyone.
Edit: yes my recovery partition works perfectly on the rx 560
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Try logging out of iCloud, log back into iCloud and then log into Messages and Facetime.
Logout from iCloud, reboot, login iCloud first then in iMessage/FaceTime.
If that don’t work, maybe your BootROM is missing the ids.
for the record, updated this evening with my rx580 and patched again for nvme booting... no problems works like a charm
I'm having the same problem as @RamMac and doing as these things have no effect, still gives me an error during activation.