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It is not so much that macrumors don't want to give stuff away, it is the importing at the end that is the problem, the value would cause huge tax problems for the winner, customs at the receiving end don't give a flying apple about how the product was obtained, they only care about the value, and you may be taxed on this, and if you refuse to pay the import duties, macrumors would be on the hook for the cost of shipping to the winner and a reshipping fee if the product is refused.

Customs can be very hit and miss.. I imported a book and was hit with a huge import, yet the keyboard, cost twice what the book did, sailed through... Yet the book was a gift, "Sorry..the book is valued at x.."

I follow forums, I follow many things tech, and the quantity of stuff in the USA is amazing, yet about less than 0.01% of those products make it here to be sold.

The other problem apart from legal, or maybe it is legal, is will it be compatible with the local electrical system, local radio wave standards, and if not, it will not be allowed to be imported, or you are forced to pay an extra tax that will be refunded if you make the changes, and really who can afford that.

I would love to win, no question, but I cannot afford to pay the import duties, which may as well cost the same as buying it legally from a reseller.

The point of customs is to protect the local economy, and a way to do this, is to discourage residents from buying abroad, after all local resellers have invested time and money into their business...

Customs and electrics, two very good points! Touché.

Cheers
 
When will you idiot people at Macrumors recognise that there is a whole lot of us who give you some respect and read your site. AND NO WE ARE NOT ALL in the US of A.

So get with the program or bugger off. We do not all speak with a yank accent.

So show us some respect in return, you know the stuff that Aretha used to sing about R E S P E C T !
 
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For this week's giveaway, we've teamed up with Henge Docks to give MacRumors readers a chance to win a Gravitas dock.

No you haven't. What you've done is this:

For this week's giveaway, we've teamed up with Henge Docks to give MacRumors readers in the U.S. a chance to win win a Gravitas dock.

As other MacRumors readers have pointed out before, it would be much better to communicate this distinction at the beginning of your articles, rather than at the end.
 
*sigh*

I don't know why I clicked this, I really don't. I'm constantly let down on all sites in all competitions

I would love it if the headline, in all contests on all webpages (not just on Macrumors) would state at the end "Only for US residents"


EDIT: My post was moved here; from a topic that included a competition ...however, would have loved to have seen in the bloody title "(for USA residents only)" - it's not that difficult to include that in the topic titles when it's a competition/giveaway/raffle etc
 
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*sigh*

I don't know why I clicked this, I really don't. I'm constantly let down on all sites in all competitions

I would love it if the headline, in all contests on all webpages (not just on Macrumors) would state at the end "Only for US residents"

Any contest/giveaway/sweepstakes, globally and regardless of country of origin, has rules and regulations. And they put them there in the details, or link to them. These disclaimers are required by law. It's not some kind of trick to get you to sign up so they can pull the rug out from underneath you if you win.

I mean, do you sign contracts without reading them?
 
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And they put them there in the details, or link to them

As I stated in my edit; it's not difficult to include in the title "For US residents only"; if other websites can do it then so can Macrumors (well, hopefully in the future ...some day, or at least this century).

And just to clarify even further - I thought it would be an international competition, since most of the sites I frequent include if there are any geo-restrictions in the topic title; so people outside of that area don't have to bother clicking; and so, even though initially thinking it would be an international competition, I read the whole text ...so yeah, I do of course read contracts before signing them - only dumb people don't do that *facepalm that you even asked such a dumb question*
 
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Once more unto the breach, dear MacHeads, once more...

http://www.mardenkane.com/articles/international-sweepstakes-contest-laws-may-cause-problems.html

If you think that sweepstakes laws can be confusing and expensive to adhere to in the US, wait till you check out these unique laws in other countries. [ excerpt ]

Canada: When running a promotion in Quebec all materials must be available in English AND French. This includes rules, promotional ads, posters, entry forms, web sites, etc. And when you run a sweeps all winners must pass a basic skill test (usually a math problem) to claim their prize. See our previous blog post for more information on this.

Mexico: In Mexico, any prize exceeding approximately US$5,000 has to be delivered in the presence of the Mexican authorities.

Brazil: In Brazil, you can’t award cash as a prize. UPDATE AUGUST 2015: Brazil recently revised their position on contests. Contests/promotions are now prohibited unless permission is obtained from the Ministry of Finance in Brazil and there is not a standard practice for submitting promotions for potential approval at this time. Please contact us if you have an interest in running a promotion in Brazil.
 
Seems beyond crazy that a prize from a UK company (Feral Interactive) can't be won by UK readers :(

It's not like the UK sweepstake rules are that complicated, as long as it's free to enter it's all good (for virtual products at least, physical I assume would require the sponsor to pay any import fees to keep it a free-entry sweepstake).
 
Still wondering if MacRumors can add the email address that they contact winners at in the giveaway article so that, if we do get contacted, the email doesn't accidentally get sent to Junk or Spam? That would probably be really helpful
 
<snip>The issue we run against is researching all the local laws: http://www.mardenkane.com/articles/international-sweepstakes-contest-laws-may-cause-problems.html </snip>

Wow! I had no idea about complicated the international laws are... these are nuts:

Mexico: In Mexico, any prize exceeding approximately US$5,000 has to be delivered in the presence of the Mexican authorities.

Sweden: In Sweden, all games of chance (sweepstakes and instant wins) are banned.

That's insane. Thank you for sharing.
 
Does any other comparable site run international giveaways? It's just too complicated legally for us to run them in multiple countries.

Even Engadget, who is owned by AOL and had their terms written up as "AOL Tech Giveaways", limits their giveaways to U.S./Canada. http://www.engadget.com/official-giveaways-rules/ -



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from 9to5Mac Readers outside the US: We love you (too!!) and most of our partners and giveaways will be offered worldwide unless otherwise stated.
 
Sure, U.S. is cool and simple, it's just that the other 19x countries are complicated. Or ...
 
For this week's giveaway, we've teamed up with WaterField Designs to offer MacRumors readers a chance to win a Zip Laptop Brief

No you haven't. Again.

Instead, again, you have "teamed up with <insert name here> to offer MacRumors readers in the US a chance to win"

If you're going to continue with the silly excuses for not actually offering the chance to all readers, why not finally start being up front about this, rather than initially claiming to offer the chance to all readers, only to bury the exclusion further down the article?

Every time you post the same nonsense, you alienate non-US readers even more than you already have done.
 
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What about people who lives outside US but has P.O. Box? Im signed to a company were everytime I bought something in Amazon for example, i receive the package in Miami on a personal PO Box, then they deliver that package to me at a very low cost!
 
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The problem in that case seemed to be that the retailer did not disclose that the international winner would have to pay for import charges and whilst I don't want to question the 300 dollar charge on imports, as a German resident, here's my take on it:
a 20 dollar item will usually fly through customs no problem, unless the shipping fee will total the value of item + shipping fees to a total greater than 26€ and some cents. (I forgot the exact number)
So it seems to me the shipping service exceeded that and some filthy company who store a package until you pay for release billed the winner for each day of storage. This is sometimes the case with EMS packages from China as I have heard. (as an example)
To expedite customs clearance these companies will do the paperwork with customs for you and in turn bill you afterwards for what they paid in your name basically, basically acting as importer.
They will then release the package as soon as you pay, but the storage isn't cheap and they are clearly in it for a nice profit.
The problem is any easy fix in such a case: it's a entrant's duty to check with their local laws and import charges and if the one who runs the giveaway says they will not cover international charges, then they won't and the entrant agreed to that.
In the case of winning they could still deny the winner's spot, maybe they don't have the money for charges, and let someone else win.

Again, I'm not an expert, but even just a slow expansion into some more countries getting added would be nice considering the page gets ad revenue internationally, just as a form of appreciation.
I'm not trying to moan though, I know it's not at all easy to run such a big site, even without running one myself, so I clearly respect the work you do and it's nice to see you're open to debate on this, even though you wouldn't have to.

Glassed Silver:mac
So why you have page that people in UK or other country can view. Regardless of the law you should arrange something in UK so the people of UK can benefit from it as well. Or you do not make enough money from this site to do that. What a shame that is. I am sure there are other means to view the news on the net. You are not the only one.
 
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