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Preface: I designed this process for making an external bootable Big Sur SSD. For installing Big Sur on a internal SSD I recommend using the Configurator 2 app along with a USB-C charging cable (standard USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 cables are not supported).

Lately I’ve had so many problems trying to install Big Sur, and spent so much time doing it, that it almost felt like I had a second career. I was so upset by the buggy, seemingly half-baked procedure(s) that I actually started referring to Big Sur as Big Sour. Over and over again I was forced to go into “recovery” and click on Install Big Sur, where it would tell me that the install process (each time) would take around 2 hours and 5 minutes. I would watch anxiously as the countdown timer would slowly click away, minute by minute. Sometimes it would give an error at 53 minutes left to go, and sometimes it would wait until it almost finished before an error (of one sort or another) would pop its ugly head up. Several times it would actually complete the install, but of course it still wouldn’t boot to the actual desktop, forcing me to try the install process all over again…

It seemed as if my M1 was mocking me, telling me to start the whole cursed procedure all over again. And of course I would… over and over again. At times it felt as if actually completing the Big Sur install process and booting into the desktop was just an illusion.

For many of us here what I’ve described above is nothing new. We’ve all been on this Big Sur merry-go-round and experienced a Big Sur’ge of issues with the new Apple Silicon OS. Reinstalling Big Sur and actually booting into the desktop, is one of the most frustrating things that I’ve ever had to deal with as an owner of a Apple product.

Einstein defined insanity as “doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”. With this in mind I decided to try a slightly different approach when it came to a macOS Big Sur installation, and it appears that the Install Gods have shined down on me because not only did I find a new install procedure, but it seems to work extremely well.

The best part is that it took me only around 20 minutes to complete the actual install process (yes, 20 minutes) not including the OS download time. If you’ve already downloaded Big Sur to your Applications folder, then please try using this new procedure and see if it works better for you. Some of the steps you’re probably already familiar with, they’re just utilized differently here. Like Apple once said “Think different”.

I am hopeful that this new procedure will work better for everyone here trying to make a bootable external drive, so that we can put this whole Big Sur Install nightmare behind us, and start actually enjoying our M1 computers. The following procedure has 3 steps; Format, using Terminal with the OS download, and placing the converted installer into your Volume of choice. Let’s get started;

Step 1 of 3;
Formatting Your Hard Drive:

Note: Formatting a hard drive will delete
everything from it. If you have anything on the hard drive that you need to save, then you first need to back those files up before attempting to format.

The first thing that you’ll need to do is to format your hard drive. With Big Sur this is a little bit trickier than with other versions of macOS. Please follow this step exactly as outlined because if you don’t complete this step correctly, then the entire procedure will fail. Of the 3 steps, this is one of the most important!

First things first, you’ll need to do your hard drive formatting from the M1, and not from an intel Mac. You will not need to go into Recovery to format (that works best for internal disks, not external). Since you will be doing this procedure from the desktop, it is more straight forward to simply perform this step from Disk Utility.

Go to Applications > Utilities folder > Disk Utility. Click the “View” button at the top of Disk Utilities and then choose “Show All Devices”. Find the Volume that you wish to format and click on the top level of it, then click on Erase:


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A new window will popup:


TopLevel.png




For “Name” type in what you wish to name your hard drive.

For “Format” you’ll need to choose “APFS”.

For “Scheme” you’ll need to choose “GUID Partition Map” and then click on the Erase button.

Your hard drive is now formatted for your M1, however I always like to take an extra step just to make sure that the container is properly formatted. You can skip this step if you wish.

Click on the next level right below the top level.



Second level.png


It will say “Container” with the number of your Volume. With the Container level highlighted, click on the Erase button on the top menu. A popup will appear:

Container.png


For “Name” type in what you wish to name your hard drive.

For “Format” choose “APFS” and then click on the Erase button.

Step one is now completed. You can close Disk Utility. You can now move onto step two.



Step 2 of 3;
Using Terminal With The OS Download:

This step assumes that the macOS installer has already been downloaded to your Applications folder. If it has not been downloaded, then go to System Preferences and click on Software Update, and choose to have the installer download to your Applications folder. Once it has been downloaded you can continue with step two below.

For this step you will need a USB flash drive formatted as Mac OS Extended, with at least 16GB of available storage. Name the USB flash drive MyVolume (the name is case sensitive). Terminal will be looking for this exact name. If you name the USB flash drive something different, then Terminal will not be able to find the USB flash drive, and the process will fail.

With the MyVolume USB flash drive plugged into your M1, open Terminal, which is in the Utilities folder of your Applications folder.

Copy and paste in the following command into Terminal;

Code:
sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Big\ Sur.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/MyVolume

After pasting in the command press Return. When prompted, type in your administrator password and press the Return key again. You probably won’t see your password as you type it in. This is normal and is a security feature.

terminalBootCreate.jpg



When prompted, type Y to confirm that you want to erase the volume, then press Return. Terminal will show you the progress as the USB flash drive is being erased.

After the USB flash drive has been erased, you will see an alert that Terminal would like to access files on a removable volume. Click OK to allow the copy process to proceed.

When Terminal says “Install media now available at…” the process has completed and the installer will be renamed “Install macOS Big Sur”.

Step two has now been completed, and you can now close down Terminal.




Step 3 of 3;
Placing the converted installer into your Volume of choice:


This step is where everything comes together. Click on the (formatted) hard drive that you wish to install macOS Big Sur into to open it up. Next, click on the USB flash drive to open it up.

Click on theInstall macOS Big Sur’ installer and drag it to the hard drive where you wish to install Big Sur. You can also copy and paste it in your hard drive if that is easier for you.

Once it has copied over, double click on it and watch the magic happen. The entire process usually takes around 20 minutes to install. Long gone are the days when you would have to wait over two hours to install Big Sur. Follow the on screen prompts to complete the process. I do not recommend that you use your M1 for anything else while the install process is being completed.

If anyone has any questions please post them below. I really hope that this new method works as well for you, as it did for me. I tested this using a Thunderbolt 3 SSD, but I see no reason why it wouldn’t (shouldn’t) work for a USB drive.
 

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Quackers

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I didn't know about the drag and drop thing for the installer :)
That's handy!
I've never tried installation on an external tbh.
 

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I didn't know about the drag and drop thing for the installer :)
That's handy!
I was so tired of wasting time using the "Recovery" method, that I felt I had nothing to lose by trying other things.

Using 'recovery' felt like it was from a Microsoft Windows installer, but dragging and dropping, and then double clicking on the installer felt very Mac-like. It was extremely smooth. Wish I had known about this method when the M1 first came out :)
 

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I was so tired of wasting time using the "Recovery" method, that I felt I had nothing to lose by trying other things.

Using 'recovery' felt like it was from a Microsoft Windows installer, but dragging and dropping, and then double clicking on the installer felt very Mac-like. It was extremely smooth. Wish I had known about this method when the M1 first came out :)
Sadly that won't work with an internal drive, I suspect :)
 

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No, basically because you need to be on the desktop to use it. Configurator 2 is the way to go for the internal drive.
 
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Mike Boreham

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Preface: I designed this process for making an external bootable Big Sur SSD. For installing Big Sur on a internal SSD I recommend using the Configurator 2 app along with a USB-C charging cable (standard USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 cables are not supported).

Lately I’ve had so many problems trying to install Big Sur, and spent so much time doing it, that it almost felt like I had a second career. I was so upset by the buggy, seemingly half-baked procedure(s) that I actually started referring to Big Sur as Big Sour. Over and over again I was forced to go into “recovery” and click on Install Big Sur, where it would tell me that the install process (each time) would take around 2 hours and 5 minutes. I would watch anxiously as the countdown timer would slowly click away, minute by minute. Sometimes it would give an error at 53 minutes left to go, and sometimes it would wait until it almost finished before an error (of one sort or another) would pop its ugly head up. Several times it would actually complete the install, but of course it still wouldn’t boot to the actual desktop, forcing me to try the install process all over again…

It seemed as if my M1 was mocking me, telling me to start the whole cursed procedure all over again. And of course I would… over and over again. At times it felt as if actually completing the Big Sur install process and booting into the desktop was just an illusion.

For many of us here what I’ve described above is nothing new. We’ve all been on this Big Sur merry-go-round and experienced a Big Sur’ge of issues with the new Apple Silicon OS. Reinstalling Big Sur and actually booting into the desktop, is one of the most frustrating things that I’ve ever had to deal with as an owner of a Apple product.

Einstein defined insanity as “doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”. With this in mind I decided to try a slightly different approach when it came to a macOS Big Sur installation, and it appears that the Install Gods have shined down on me because not only did I find a new install procedure, but it seems to work extremely well.

The best part is that it took me only around 20 minutes to complete the actual install process (yes, 20 minutes) not including the OS download time. If you’ve already downloaded Big Sur to your Applications folder, then please try using this new procedure and see if it works better for you. Some of the steps you’re probably already familiar with, they’re just utilized differently here. Like Apple once said “Think different”.

I am hopeful that this new procedure will work better for everyone here trying to make a bootable external drive, so that we can put this whole Big Sur Install nightmare behind us, and start actually enjoying our M1 computers. The following procedure has 3 steps; Format, using Terminal with the OS download, and placing the converted installer into your Volume of choice. Let’s get started;

Step 1 of 3;
Formatting Your Hard Drive:

Note: Formatting a hard drive will delete
everything from it. If you have anything on the hard drive that you need to save, then you first need to back those files up before attempting to format.

The first thing that you’ll need to do is to format your hard drive. With Big Sur this is a little bit trickier than with other versions of macOS. Please follow this step exactly as outlined because if you don’t complete this step correctly, then the entire procedure will fail. Of the 3 steps, this is one of the most important!

First things first, you’ll need to do your hard drive formatting from the M1, and not from an intel Mac. You will not need to go into Recovery to format (that works best for internal disks, not external). Since you will be doing this procedure from the desktop, it is more straight forward to simply perform this step from Disk Utility.

Go to Applications > Utilities folder > Disk Utility. Click the “View” button at the top of Disk Utilities and then choose “Show All Devices”. Find the Volume that you wish to format and click on the top level of it, then click on Erase:


View attachment 1739533


A new window will popup:


View attachment 1739524



For “Name” type in what you wish to name your hard drive.

For “Format” you’ll need to choose “APFS”.

For “Scheme” you’ll need to choose “GUID Partition Map” and then click on the Erase button.

Your hard drive is now formatted for your M1, however I always like to take an extra step just to make sure that the container is properly formatted. You can skip this step if you wish.

Click on the next level right below the top level.



View attachment 1739525

It will say “Container” with the number of your Volume. With the Container level highlighted, click on the Erase button on the top menu. A popup will appear:

View attachment 1739526

For “Name” type in what you wish to name your hard drive.

For “Format” choose “APFS” and then click on the Erase button.

Step one is now completed. You can close Disk Utility. You can now move onto step two.



Step 2 of 3;
Using Terminal With The OS Download:

This step assumes that the macOS installer has already been downloaded to your Applications folder. If it has not been downloaded, then go to System Preferences and click on Software Update, and choose to have the installer download to your Applications folder. Once it has been downloaded you can continue with step two below.

For this step you will need a USB flash drive formatted as Mac OS Extended, with at least 16GB of available storage. Name the USB flash drive MyVolume (the name is case sensitive). Terminal will be looking for this exact name. If you name the USB flash drive something different, then Terminal will not be able to find the USB flash drive, and the process will fail.

With the MyVolume USB flash drive plugged into your M1, open Terminal, which is in the Utilities folder of your Applications folder.

Copy and paste in the following command into Terminal;

Code:
sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Big\ Sur.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/MyVolume

After pasting in the command press Return. When prompted, type in your administrator password and press the Return key again. You probably won’t see your password as you type it in. This is normal and is a security feature.

View attachment 1739529


When prompted, type Y to confirm that you want to erase the volume, then press Return. Terminal will show you the progress as the USB flash drive is being erased.

After the USB flash drive has been erased, you will see an alert that Terminal would like to access files on a removable volume. Click OK to allow the copy process to proceed.

When Terminal says “Install media now available at…” the process has completed and the installer will be renamed “Install macOS Big Sur”.

Step two has now been completed, and you can now close down Terminal.




Step 3 of 3;
Placing the converted installer into your Volume of choice:


This step is where everything comes together. Click on the (formatted) hard drive that you wish to install macOS Big Sur into to open it up. Next, click on the USB flash drive to open it up.

Click on theInstall macOS Big Sur’ installer and drag it to the hard drive where you wish to install Big Sur. You can also copy and paste it in your hard drive if that is easier for you.

Once it has copied over, double click on it and watch the magic happen. The entire process usually takes around 20 minutes to install. Long gone are the days when you would have to wait over two hours to install Big Sur. Follow the on screen prompts to complete the process. I do not recommend that you use your M1 for anything else while the install process is being completed.

If anyone has any questions please post them below. I really hope that this new method works as well for you, as it did for me. I tested this using a Thunderbolt 3 SSD, but I see no reason why it wouldn’t (shouldn’t) work for a USB drive.

Good post and interesting. But not the only way.... different things seem to work for different people.

I have done several successful installs onto USB and TB externals using a bootable USB flash drive (as your step 2), but I have never done your Step 3. Not saying your Step 3 won't work only that I haven't needed or done it. On my successful installs I have always booted from the USB flash drive and installed onto the external from there. Like you, installing direct from Recovery hasn't worked, though I haven't tried for a couple of months and things may have changed. (Going to try again later today).

I was pleased to note that your method does not mention Reduced Security or USB-C to USB-A adapter, which are often recommended, but in my experience are not required.

A couple of questions:

1. Did you try booting from the USB flash drive and installing from that...which works consistently for me?

2. Did you try dragging the Installer direct from the Apps folder to the target external instead of from the bootable USB flash drive? (I might try that later as well).
 
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2. Did you try dragging the Installer direct from the Apps folder to the target external instead of from the bootable USB flash drive? (I might try that later as well).

I just tried this variation....doesn't work. The installer just bounces in the dock.

Your way of dragging the installer off the USB Flash installer to the external (Samsung T5) does work, initially. The installation onto the external ("TEST") proceeded and took about 20 minutes.

However at the end of the installation, when it is supposed to boot to the new installation, it booted to my internal instead of TEST.

I shut down and rebooted to Start up Options, where TEST is shown as an option but it won't boot from it.

With this test I have done all three steps in your original post and it hasn't worked unfortunately.

After that I did an install onto TEST while booted to the USB flash installer and that did the same thing. This has always worked for me before, so something has changed (there have been both firmware and macOS updates) since I last tried installing onto an external USB drive a couple of months ago.

Sigh. :confused:

As I said before, different things work (and don't work) for different people at different times. Frustrating!

I am now going to try both your method and mine (bootable Flash installer in step 3) onto a Thunderbolt external. Thunderbolt has generally been easier to install onto and boot from than USB.
 

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1. Did you try booting from the USB flash drive and installing from that...which works consistently for me?
With my original 1TB external drive that worked. In fact it was the only way which worked. However with my new 2TB external it would install the OS but it would boot into Recovery, ask for a password, and then boot into the internal drive. It would not get around this and was very frustrating because it was the same exact external enclosure as I used for the 1TB (just a bigger drive).

With this test I have done all three steps in your original post and it hasn't worked unfortunately.
I think it might be the version of OS you are downloading into the Applications folder. Try downloading an older version like 11.1. I think they've changed some things in the OS which might be interfering. I used a Thunderbolt enclosure, but USB should work.
 

chouseworth

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Preface: I designed this process for making an external bootable Big Sur SSD. For installing Big Sur on a internal SSD I recommend using the Configurator 2 app along with a USB-C charging cable (standard USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 cables are not supported).

Lately I’ve had so many problems trying to install Big Sur, and spent so much time doing it, that it almost felt like I had a second career. I was so upset by the buggy, seemingly half-baked procedure(s) that I actually started referring to Big Sur as Big Sour. Over and over again I was forced to go into “recovery” and click on Install Big Sur, where it would tell me that the install process (each time) would take around 2 hours and 5 minutes. I would watch anxiously as the countdown timer would slowly click away, minute by minute. Sometimes it would give an error at 53 minutes left to go, and sometimes it would wait until it almost finished before an error (of one sort or another) would pop its ugly head up. Several times it would actually complete the install, but of course it still wouldn’t boot to the actual desktop, forcing me to try the install process all over again…

It seemed as if my M1 was mocking me, telling me to start the whole cursed procedure all over again. And of course I would… over and over again. At times it felt as if actually completing the Big Sur install process and booting into the desktop was just an illusion.

For many of us here what I’ve described above is nothing new. We’ve all been on this Big Sur merry-go-round and experienced a Big Sur’ge of issues with the new Apple Silicon OS. Reinstalling Big Sur and actually booting into the desktop, is one of the most frustrating things that I’ve ever had to deal with as an owner of a Apple product.

Einstein defined insanity as “doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”. With this in mind I decided to try a slightly different approach when it came to a macOS Big Sur installation, and it appears that the Install Gods have shined down on me because not only did I find a new install procedure, but it seems to work extremely well.

The best part is that it took me only around 20 minutes to complete the actual install process (yes, 20 minutes) not including the OS download time. If you’ve already downloaded Big Sur to your Applications folder, then please try using this new procedure and see if it works better for you. Some of the steps you’re probably already familiar with, they’re just utilized differently here. Like Apple once said “Think different”.

I am hopeful that this new procedure will work better for everyone here trying to make a bootable external drive, so that we can put this whole Big Sur Install nightmare behind us, and start actually enjoying our M1 computers. The following procedure has 3 steps; Format, using Terminal with the OS download, and placing the converted installer into your Volume of choice. Let’s get started;

Step 1 of 3;
Formatting Your Hard Drive:

Note: Formatting a hard drive will delete
everything from it. If you have anything on the hard drive that you need to save, then you first need to back those files up before attempting to format.

The first thing that you’ll need to do is to format your hard drive. With Big Sur this is a little bit trickier than with other versions of macOS. Please follow this step exactly as outlined because if you don’t complete this step correctly, then the entire procedure will fail. Of the 3 steps, this is one of the most important!

First things first, you’ll need to do your hard drive formatting from the M1, and not from an intel Mac. You will not need to go into Recovery to format (that works best for internal disks, not external). Since you will be doing this procedure from the desktop, it is more straight forward to simply perform this step from Disk Utility.

Go to Applications > Utilities folder > Disk Utility. Click the “View” button at the top of Disk Utilities and then choose “Show All Devices”. Find the Volume that you wish to format and click on the top level of it, then click on Erase:


View attachment 1739533


A new window will popup:


View attachment 1739524



For “Name” type in what you wish to name your hard drive.

For “Format” you’ll need to choose “APFS”.

For “Scheme” you’ll need to choose “GUID Partition Map” and then click on the Erase button.

Your hard drive is now formatted for your M1, however I always like to take an extra step just to make sure that the container is properly formatted. You can skip this step if you wish.

Click on the next level right below the top level.



View attachment 1739525

It will say “Container” with the number of your Volume. With the Container level highlighted, click on the Erase button on the top menu. A popup will appear:

View attachment 1739526

For “Name” type in what you wish to name your hard drive.

For “Format” choose “APFS” and then click on the Erase button.

Step one is now completed. You can close Disk Utility. You can now move onto step two.



Step 2 of 3;
Using Terminal With The OS Download:

This step assumes that the macOS installer has already been downloaded to your Applications folder. If it has not been downloaded, then go to System Preferences and click on Software Update, and choose to have the installer download to your Applications folder. Once it has been downloaded you can continue with step two below.

For this step you will need a USB flash drive formatted as Mac OS Extended, with at least 16GB of available storage. Name the USB flash drive MyVolume (the name is case sensitive). Terminal will be looking for this exact name. If you name the USB flash drive something different, then Terminal will not be able to find the USB flash drive, and the process will fail.

With the MyVolume USB flash drive plugged into your M1, open Terminal, which is in the Utilities folder of your Applications folder.

Copy and paste in the following command into Terminal;

Code:
sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Big\ Sur.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/MyVolume

After pasting in the command press Return. When prompted, type in your administrator password and press the Return key again. You probably won’t see your password as you type it in. This is normal and is a security feature.

View attachment 1739529


When prompted, type Y to confirm that you want to erase the volume, then press Return. Terminal will show you the progress as the USB flash drive is being erased.

After the USB flash drive has been erased, you will see an alert that Terminal would like to access files on a removable volume. Click OK to allow the copy process to proceed.

When Terminal says “Install media now available at…” the process has completed and the installer will be renamed “Install macOS Big Sur”.

Step two has now been completed, and you can now close down Terminal.




Step 3 of 3;
Placing the converted installer into your Volume of choice:


This step is where everything comes together. Click on the (formatted) hard drive that you wish to install macOS Big Sur into to open it up. Next, click on the USB flash drive to open it up.

Click on theInstall macOS Big Sur’ installer and drag it to the hard drive where you wish to install Big Sur. You can also copy and paste it in your hard drive if that is easier for you.

Once it has copied over, double click on it and watch the magic happen. The entire process usually takes around 20 minutes to install. Long gone are the days when you would have to wait over two hours to install Big Sur. Follow the on screen prompts to complete the process. I do not recommend that you use your M1 for anything else while the install process is being completed.

If anyone has any questions please post them below. I really hope that this new method works as well for you, as it did for me. I tested this using a Thunderbolt 3 SSD, but I see no reason why it wouldn’t (shouldn’t) work for a USB drive.
Thank you. You have performed a great service for the readers of this forum. I assume once it gets tested a bit more it will get pinned as a “sticky” at the top...
 

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With my original 1TB external drive that worked. In fact it was the only way which worked. However with my new 2TB external it would install the OS but it would boot into Recovery, ask for a password, and then boot into the internal drive. It would not get around this and was very frustrating because it was the same exact external enclosure as I used for the 1TB (just a bigger drive).


I think it might be the version of OS you are downloading into the Applications folder. Try downloading an older version like 11.1. I think they've changed some things in the OS which might be interfering. I used a Thunderbolt enclosure, but USB should work.

I have just repeated both your method and the bootable flash drive method onto a Thunderbolt external, and both work and boot fully.

This result and your comments underline that this whole topic us in a state of flux. Firmware updates and macOS updates have changed the situation from two months ago.

It also confirms what has been said from the early days of M1 that Thunderbolt externals work much better than USB externals. I personally have never had a failure to install and boot a TB external but many with USB. I don't recall ever seeing anyone say they could not not install and boot a Thunderbolt. EDIT...from your OP it sounds like you had failures with TB drives. Have you been using Thunderbolt external all along?
 

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Thank you. You have performed a great service for the readers of this forum. I assume once it gets tested a bit more it will get pinned as a “sticky” at the top...
Thank you chouseworth! That was my goal. You guys have all helped me so much in the past, and I just wanted to give back to the community :)
 

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from your OP it sounds like you had failures with TB drives. Have you been using Thunderbolt external all along?
Yep. Trying to get Thunderbolt to work with Recovery was a nightmare. That's why I was so happy to see that this method was so "Mac-like" and easy.
 

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Yep. Trying to get Thunderbolt to work with Recovery was a nightmare. That's why I was so happy to see that this method was so "Mac-like" and easy.

Will be interesting to see how many people succeed with your method or with bootable flash using USB externals....not many based on my tests today!......OTOH varying experiences seem to be the the name of game.
 
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Will be interesting to see how many people succeed with your method or with bootable flash using USB externals....not many based on my tests today!......OTOH varying experiences seem to be the the name of game.
USB seems to still be hit or miss unfortunately. I will play around with the installer to see if I can come up with an easy way to install USB on a external. Sounds like a 'fun' project....
 

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OP thanks for writing this.

I am a little lost on your step 3 - can you also add photos for it?
 

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OP thanks for writing this.

I am a little lost on your step 3 - can you also add photos for it?
My pleasure Leon! I'm at work right now but as soon as I get home I'll add some pics for this step.

Basically you're just copying the converted installer over to the hard drive that you want to use as the external drive.
 

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After that I did an install onto TEST while booted to the USB flash installer and that did the same thing. This has always worked for me before, so something has changed (there have been both firmware and macOS updates) since I last tried installing onto an external USB drive a couple of months ago.
I have just repeated what failed this morning and it worked ! Successfully installed and booted onto USB Samsung T5 using a bootable USB flash drive.

Again reinforces the flakiness of the topic, and if it doesn't work first time try again.
 

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I have just repeated what failed this morning and it worked ! Successfully installed and booted onto USB Samsung T5 using a bootable USB flash drive.

Again reinforces the flakiness of the topic, and if it doesn't work first time try again.
Maybe Apple has some kind of lock on it, and it only works during certain times of the day :p

Really glad to hear that USB also works!
 
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My pleasure Leon! I'm at work right now but as soon as I get home I'll add some pics for this step.

Basically you're just copying the converted installer over to the hard drive that you want to use as the external drive.
Thanks. Thats where I am lost what to copy exactly in step 3.
Sorry, feeling stupid without the pic.. and am generally new to Mac
 
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