iPhone 16e Many complain about 16e price, but their body action is the most honest

[GMShadow]

The iPad 10 initially launched at $449 and the iPad 9 stuck around for a while longer. Then Apple cut the price to $349 when they discontinued the 9.

If they plan to use the 16e's chassis for a while, it may see a price cut or adjustment for a later 1xe update.

 

[Saturn007]

SE4 (16e) charges so much more than SE3, iPad stays the same, any suggestion?

It charges faster than the SE3, that's right! 😂

In any case, if the 16e price is too much for you, buy an SE 2022!

 

[geta]

Are you asking why the iPhone 16e is more expensive than the third generation iPhone SE? I don’t believe the iPhone 16e is related to the iPhone SE lineup. The iPhone SE was the old style classic iPhone. The iPhone 16e is pretty much a budget iPhone 16.

I wouldn't call a €709 phone a budget phone.

 

[russell_314]

I wouldn't call a €709 phone a budget phone.

I don’t know about pricing in your country but in the USA it’s $599. That’s $200 cheaper than the regular iPhone and if you’re not on of the major carriers, it’s $230 cheaper.

I wouldn’t call it a budget phone. I said a budget iPhone as in compared to other iPhones. It’s like one could call the base model Mac mini is a budget Mac at $599 but you could probably buy a cheap Windows mini PC for $99.

I don’t think there is a market for a budget iPhone in the USA or developed countries. In the USA even people at the lower income scale can easily afford a regular iPhone. The only reason they wouldn’t spend the money is because they don’t care about iOS or having an iPhone. They buy a cheap android phone because to them it’s cheaper and just as good. They would rather spend the money on something else that is more meaningful to them. In less developed countries there might be a market for a $249 iPhone. Many people can’t afford to spend even $599. That might be six months salary to them.

 

[Mike57000]

This French test concludes with "don't buy". The title is ‘Don't be fooled’.
I think this advice is justified. A rapid and significant price cut would make sense.

Test de l'iPhone 16e : ne vous faites pas avoir !

Apple tente-t-elle de tromper ses clients avec l'iPhone 16e ? Cet iPhone 16 largement castré est certes, un peu moins cher, mais affiche aussi de…

www.mac4ever.com

 

[TgeekB]

This French test concludes with "don't buy". The title is ‘Don't be fooled’.
I think this advice is justified. A rapid and significant price cut would make sense.

Test de l'iPhone 16e : ne vous faites pas avoir !

Apple tente-t-elle de tromper ses clients avec l'iPhone 16e ? Cet iPhone 16 largement castré est certes, un peu moins cher, mais affiche aussi de…

www.mac4ever.com

Exactly where I go for my tech knowledge…….not. 🍟

 

[RRC]

This French test concludes with "don't buy". The title is ‘Don't be fooled’.
I think this advice is justified. A rapid and significant price cut would make sense.

Test de l'iPhone 16e : ne vous faites pas avoir !

Apple tente-t-elle de tromper ses clients avec l'iPhone 16e ? Cet iPhone 16 largement castré est certes, un peu moins cher, mais affiche aussi de…

www.mac4ever.com

“French test”

 

[decafjava]

“French test”

Ok what's wrong with that? There are many tech and Apple enthusiasts in France so why would their assessments have less value?

 

[TgeekB]

“French test”

Can you image being the type of person who is actually hoping a product fails? It doesn’t affect you at all but you must badmouth it? Reaching for wild unknown French reviews to back your claim?
This place is unbelievable. Apple fans used to be better than this.

 

[RRC]

Can you image being the type of person who is actually hoping a product fails? It doesn’t affect you at all but you must badmouth it? Reaching for wild unknown French reviews to back your claim?
This place is unbelievable. Apple fans used to be better than this.

Yep! A product that they have no intention of buying but they want to act all knowledgeable and mighty by predicting that, stating this etc… They don't like it, so no one else should.

Ok what's wrong with that? There are many tech and Apple enthusiasts in France so why would their assessments have less value?

And there’s nothing wrong with a French review, but remember France is a country who doesn’t really like Apple, and if you need to go to one European country for predictions on how Apple’s latest device will do, France isn’t where I would personally place my trust.

Plus the euro’s exchange rate being rubbish is nothing to do with Apple, should have kept an independent currency and it might have been more in line with the article writers pricing expectations.

 

[ericwn]

Yep! A product that they have no intention of buying but they want to act all knowledgeable and mighty by predicting that, stating this etc… They don't like it, so no one else should.



And there’s nothing wrong with a French review, but remember France is a country who doesn’t really like Apple, and if you need to go to one European country for predictions on how Apple’s latest device will do, France isn’t where I would personally place my trust.

Plus the euro’s exchange rate being rubbish is nothing to do with Apple, should have kept an independent currency and it might have been more in line with the article writers pricing expectations.

So you’re dismissing a review just by the origin and the general assumption that a country doesn’t like one specific manufacturer or was there anything in the text that was factually wrong?

 

[ericwn]

SE4 (16e) charges so much more than SE3, iPad stays the same, any suggestion?

Have honest body reactions, I guess.

 

[RRC]

So you’re dismissing a review just by the origin and the general assumption that a country doesn’t like one specific manufacturer or was there anything in the text that was factually wrong?

Yes I am dismissing something I've not heard of or seen before in Apple information circles... Plus it wasn't so much a review as an article complaining.

 

[ericwn]

Yes I am dismissing something I've not heard of or seen before in Apple information circles... Plus it wasn't so much a review as an article complaining.

If you're dismissing anything you don't know - and that site happens to be rather well know in the French speaking world, there is little chance to expand your horizon. It was in fact a pretty well rounded set of pro and con in what does seem a review for sure. Criticism mentioned seems valid to me:
Too expensive
No MagSafe
Very average camera quality
No ultra-wide angle
No UWB chip
USB 2 without display output
Apple Intelligence (beta) still mediocre
Average outdoor brightness

 

[decafjava]

If you're dismissing anything you don't know - and that site happens to be rather well know in the French speaking world, there is little chance to expand your horizon. It was in fact a pretty well rounded set of pro and con in what does seem a review for sure. Criticism mentioned seems valid to me:
Too expensive
No MagSafe
Very average camera quality
No ultra-wide angle
No UWB chip
USB 2 without display output
Apple Intelligence (beta) still mediocre
Average outdoor brightness

Honestly applies to all Apple gadgets atm, still a valid criticism. I am more than happy with my current 15 PM which is still a better phone overall despite being just over a year old.

 

[RRC]

Criticism mentioned seems valid to me:

Too expensive - Subjective, its no more expensive than the SE was when launched for the same storage size.
No MagSafe - SE never had it, most won't use it, even more so if they never had it previously.
Very average camera quality - Plenty of proof on this forum that the quality is excellent.
No ultra-wide angle - The least used lens on any phone and even on the 15 it should have been a telephoto zoom rather than a wide angle lens, I have never bothered with it myself however you can use the panoramic function to overcome this if really needed.
No UWB chip - How often is this used in daily usage? Rarely.
USB 2 without display output - No one buying this device needs anything more.
Apple Intellige nce (beta) still mediocre - Same AI as any iPhone 16 or 15 Pro model, anything older isn't going to get anything.
Average outdoor brightness - Plenty bright enough to use even in sunlight.

You cannot complain about price, and want the same features as a more expensive device for less money?!

That site may well be well known in the french speaking world, that's not a world the majority on this forum live in, hence it's not called Macrumeurs.

 

[ericwn]

Of course your personal opinion doesn’t negate that of others. Of course there will be plenty of users who compare this on a spec sheet basis and measured on specs it’s not the best performing device.
The entry level price is higher than before. Your dismissal does little for buyers with less deep pockets. Valid.
MagSafe and contactless charging are industry standards. Missing is an annoyance and of course an update incentive as always.
The wide angle camera comes in handy for those willing to learn how to use it. Cameras in phones are a strong selling point. Lesser capabilities than in other lines is a negative of course. Pitching pano as a wide angle camera replacement is really a poor solution in my experience.
Bottom line it’s their entry level device, the one all the cell phone companies/carriers will sell as the entry level contract iPhone going forward at some stage. Asking more than

 

[RRC]

Of course your personal opinion doesn’t negate that of others. Of course there will be plenty of users who compare this on a spec sheet basis and measured on specs it’s not the best performing device.
The entry level price is higher than before. Your dismissal does little for buyers with less deep pockets. Valid.
MagSafe and contactless charging are industry standards. Missing is an annoyance and of course an update incentive as always.
The wide angle camera comes in handy for those willing to learn how to use it. Cameras in phones are a strong selling point. Lesser capabilities than in other lines is a negative of course. Pitching pano as a wide angle camera replacement is really a poor solution in my experience.
Bottom line it’s their entry level device, the one all the cell phone companies/carriers will sell as the entry level contract iPhone going forward at some stage. Asking more than

16e has "contactless charging". It just doesn't have magsafe, the same as any Android device.

I am not basing anything on a spec sheet, I have the device, have used both the Pixel 9 Pro and the 15 Pro as well as the 16 Pro Max which I returned... so I can obviously only base my oppinion on my own real world usage.

Im aware cameras in phones are a selling point, but that device exists in the Pro model. I know about photography, I have a Leica so have no need for more than a single lens - most people don't even use the other lenses on a pro device and just open the camera app and shoot the picture. Nor was I suggesting panorama photography as a solution, just as an option for the rare times an UW lens is needed.