Stock Android does take you into the app to reply to a text or email, this is true, however numerous ROMs and 3rd party apps have had this feature for years. I don't even find it beneficial, since it doesn't save any time.
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Material Design (Android L) vs iOS 7/8 (Flat)
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Stock Android does take you into the app to reply to a text or email, this is true, however numerous ROMs and 3rd party apps have had this feature for years. I don't even find it beneficial, since it doesn't save any time.
Yeah. I've honestly never understood the strong demand for Quick Reply, even for my iPhone.
Either way, it's going to interrupt what you're doing if you're going to reply to it in some way or form.
For Android L, I expect I'll be turning off Heads Up Notifications. I don't like the way Google is handling them. I much prefer NotifierPro at the moment. Much more discrete.
I actually really like quick reply. It's a small detail, but it's those small details that add up and make for a smooth UI experience. I certainly hope they implement it in L. I've had a few text apps with quick reply for my Note 2 but they're all pretty clunky or just plain ugly.
You must have missed the past two years of decidedly mediocre updates from 4.1 to 4.4.
Are you talking about Android or iOS? I ask because 95% of all the features Apple has implemented from iOS5 through iOS8 have come from Android. This isn't knocking Apple for copying features, but rather when you say one OS has had mediocre updates for the past few years, you might as well say the same for both platforms.
That said, one of the biggest features Android implemented in (I think it was 4.2, but may have been 4.3?) and then Apple followed suit with, is rich notifications. To call something like this mediocre is to not understand its importance.
This is so bafflingly incorrect that I have no interest in trying to convince you otherwise. It won't happen, so I won't bother.
Really? Just off the top of my head I'll list 10 things Apple took directly from Android since iOS5:
1. Notification Center and rich notifications
2. Swype keyboard
3. Spotlight search
4. "Hey Siri" vs "OK Google" voice activiation
5. Widgets
6. iCloud Drive and auto-photo uploads taken direct from Google Drive and Photos
7. Video demo's in the app store (something Android has always had)
8. Virtual split keyboard
9. VIP inbox
10. Launch apps from the lockscreen
And then things like 3d tab viewing in Safari taken from Chrome in Android, real multi-tasking in mobile, the music interface and lockscreen were cloned from Android, etc.
I'm not going in to all the features, but to discount this and make claims that Android's updates are mediocre while Apple's have been something more, just goes to show that you are drinking the kool-aid and not thinking for yourself or just sticking your head in the sand.
And like I said, I don't care if one copies the other, I have said in the past, I'm all for it, because it allows me to use all my devices and have feature parity. But I will criticise Apple for suing people for doing what it openly does or people making statements, like you have done, that is little more than propogandist b.s.
Textra has had this feature and it is quite nice to quickly reply. The time difference is moot but it really does add to the experience. This is the same feature in the samsung S5 for calls.
Material Design (Android L) vs iOS 7/8 (Flat)
That's a nice straw man argument you got there. If I (or anyone else) ever advocated such a silly stance your rant would certainly be valid.
I don't know how this turned into a who-copied-who, but Apple, Google, and Microsoft have all taken inspiration heavily from one another. The examples on all sides are numerous and well documented, and I don't think it serves anyone well I rehash them here.
Most importantly, I would postulate that it's a fantastic thing to be encouraged. All three OS have improved greatly from the others' existence and ideas.
Getting back to Android 4.1-4.4, there's certainly some nice nuggets in there, no doubt. But on the whole the pace and quality of updates was significantly lower than that of Google before that time (and hopefully after).
(Since you mentioned it, I'm opposed to all of Apple's lawsuits, with the exception of the original Galaxy S. I don't really care much about lawyers squabbling either way though.)
That's a nice straw man argument you got there. If I (or anyone else) ever advocated such a silly stance your rant would certainly be valid.
I don't know how this turned into a who-copied-who, but Apple, Google, and Microsoft have all taken inspiration heavily from one another. The examples on all sides are numerous and well documented, and I don't think it serves anyone well I rehash them here.
Most importantly, I would postulate that it's a fantastic thing to be encouraged. All three OS have improved greatly from the others' existence and ideas.
Getting back to Android 4.1-4.4, there's certainly some nice nuggets in there, no doubt. But on the whole the pace and quality of updates was significantly lower than that of Google before that time (and hopefully after).
(Since you mentioned it, I'm opposed to all of Apple's lawsuits, with the exception of the original Galaxy S. I don't really care much about lawyers squabbling either way though.)
I'd say the introduction of a brand new runtime (4.3 -> 4.4) is fairly significant.
So, you are agreeing with me then?
My only arguement with you was regarding your comment about 4.1-4.4 updates being mediocre, when clearly there were significant improvements along the way (which was obviously consumer gold, hence Apple added those features.) I simply can't see how you can call Android updates mediocre, and then not give Apple the same label since many of those features were in both OS updates from the same time period?
As for previous updates prior to 4.x, do you remember that abomination called Android 3.0? The absolute worst OS update ever made (even if it was limited to tablets). I hope to god that no one ever makes something that awful again, especially Google! And again, I've never said copying features from one company to the next was bad. I'm all for it as a consumer.
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It was introduced in 4.4 and left up to the user to implement, but I agree with you; It wasn't baked in, in 4.4.
I bought a Xoom on launch. You better believe it was terrible.
Costco's return policy saved the day after a few months of using it.
Why? If it wasn't introduced in KitKat, Google wouldn't have received the necessary feedback to improve it, developers wouldn't have had as much time to update their apps, and it most likely wouldn't be the default runtime at the initial release of L. Makes KK almost as significant as L, IMO.
While ART was introduced in 4.4, it was an option designed for developers to prepare their apps for what was coming down the line. It was never meant for consumer use, and while the option was there in the code, it wasn't an advertised 4.4 feature. So I agree with Mikey in this case. It is an L feature.
And not all manufacturers allowed its use in their KK updates--couldn't activate it on my HTC One (M7) nor my Sony Xperia Z1 Compact.
Agreed.
I'm not saying it was an advertised feature, or that it was meant for the average user. However, if it wasn't introduced as "beta" in KK, I highly doubt it would be completely replacing dalvik in L -- how could it be ready without such a large soak test? Essentially, Google introduced the future of Android with ART in KK. How is that not significant?
Guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
I bought a Xoom on launch. You better believe it was terrible.
Costco's return policy saved the day after a few months of using it.
I thought you said you weren't going to argue the point but yet you're still here?
I dont have L and ive been running ART for months on my non rooted Nexus 5. Other phones can run it as well.
Given that they are very positive about the interface I guess the paper reference went over yours.
Thankfully your on ignore now so I don't have to deal with immature posts like this.
True but it is there if you want to run it. My Daughters S5 is running it and they did that at T-Mobile...... i assume because, i didnt do it and i know she didnt do it.
Google said Dalvik is gone completely for L. And even though Google has given developers a year to prepare for ART, once L goes public we are going to hear a lot of crying about how apps aren't working.
I know dalvik is being replaced completely, which is why I mentioned it in my post. I don't think this would be the case, though, if ART wasn't introduced last year. It's given not only developers the chance to tweak their apps, but also Google some usage data/logs to look at -- logs that would have helped them refine ART and L.
My bad. I read your last post incorrectly. I agree with what you said. Sorry for the confusion on my part.