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neteng101

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Jan 7, 2009
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Contrast ratio is superb on the MBA, but consensus seems to be its lower in color gamut compared to the MBP so there's less detail between tones. Not so great for color critical work, excellent for everything else.
 

drjsway

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Jan 8, 2009
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Screen quality from best to worst, 2010 models:

1. 13" MacBook Air
2. 15" MacBook Pro High-Res/17" MacBook Pro
3. 11.6" MacBook Air
4. 15" MacBook Pro (1440x900)
5. 13" MacBook Pro
6. white MacBook

1-4 are all amazing. 5 is satisfactory. 6 is pretty bad.
 

tim100

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May 25, 2009
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Screen quality from best to worst, 2010 models:

1. 13" MacBook Air
2. 15" MacBook Pro High-Res/17" MacBook Pro
3. 11.6" MacBook Air
4. 15" MacBook Pro (1440x900)
5. 13" MacBook Pro
6. white MacBook

1-4 are all amazing. 5 is satisfactory. 6 is pretty bad.

you think the 13 air has the best screen? you think the 13 air is better than the 11?
 

macbook123

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Feb 11, 2006
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There are at least two different 13.3" displays, one titled 9CF0 and the other 9CDF. I have the 9CF0 and think the contrast is horrid. Looks like I'm staring at it through fog. 9CDF seems better according to the reviews here and presumably it was also the one Anandtech reviewed and gave good grades.
 

bcaslis

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Mar 11, 2008
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There are at least two different 13.3" displays, one titled 9CF0 and the other 9CDF. I have the 9CF0 and think the contrast is horrid. Looks like I'm staring at it through fog. 9CDF seems better according to the reviews here and presumably it was also the one Anandtech reviewed and gave good grades.

Looking at it through fog? Geez, I have the same display and yours is either damaged or that's a huge exaggeration.
 

Scottsdale

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Sep 19, 2008
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Screen quality from best to worst, 2010 models:

1. 13" MacBook Air
2. 15" MacBook Pro High-Res/17" MacBook Pro
3. 11.6" MacBook Air
4. 15" MacBook Pro (1440x900)
5. 13" MacBook Pro
6. white MacBook

1-4 are all amazing. 5 is satisfactory. 6 is pretty bad.

I pretty much agree with you, although I would move the 11.6" MBA down the list... I love the new 13" MBA's display.
 

RobNor

macrumors 6502
May 29, 2010
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There are at least two different 13.3" displays, one titled 9CF0 and the other 9CDF. I have the 9CF0 and think the contrast is horrid. Looks like I'm staring at it through fog. 9CDF seems better according to the reviews here and presumably it was also the one Anandtech reviewed and gave good grades.
The contrast on my 9CF0 is very good blacks are very black in fact it somerimes makes the screen feel a little too dark
 

tim100

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May 25, 2009
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I pretty much agree with you, although I would move the 11.6" MBA down the list... I love the new 13" MBA's display.

what makes the 13 inch air a better screen (other than res) than the 11? also you believe the 13 air is better than the pro screen?
 

ImperialX

macrumors 65816
Jul 17, 2007
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Tokyo, Japan
It depends on whether you like the MBP's glass panel. I personally think the MBA has a splendid screen, high pixel density.
 

nylon

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Oct 26, 2004
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1. MBA has better pixel density/resolution given the size of the display.

2. MBP (all models) have better colour gamut.
 

tim100

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May 25, 2009
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1. MBA has better pixel density/resolution given the size of the display.

2. MBP (all models) have better colour gamut.

1. how do the MBA compare to high res BTO MBP re: pixel density and res

2. how important is color gamut
 

neteng101

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Jan 7, 2009
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MacBook Air (2010) 11.6" (Widescreen) 1366×768 135
MacBook Air (2010) 13.3" (Widescreen) 1440×900 128
MacBook, MacBook Pro 13.3" (Widescreen) 1280×800 113
MacBook Pro 15.4" (Widescreen) 1440×900 110
MacBook Pro 15.4" (Widescreen) 1680×1050 128
MacBook Pro 17" (Widescreen) 1920×1200 132

The pixel density of the MBA and the hi-res 15/17" MBPs is pretty comparable, but the resolutions are different. Pixel density isn't much of a consideration really for selecting the MBA or MBP (unless you want much lower pixel density for less eye strain). The 13/15" regular screen has much less pixel density.

Color gamut is important to professionals that work with graphics, especially for post-production (ie. end result will be printed, not just online consumption) purposes. Otherwise, it allows you to see more tone detail in images on the screen.
 

unagimiyagi

macrumors 6502a
Jun 9, 2009
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Screen quality from best to worst, 2010 models:

1. 13" MacBook Air
2. 15" MacBook Pro High-Res/17" MacBook Pro
3. 11.6" MacBook Air
4. 15" MacBook Pro (1440x900)
5. 13" MacBook Pro
6. white MacBook

1-4 are all amazing. 5 is satisfactory. 6 is pretty bad.


I do not agree with this at all.

RELATIVE to the rest of the notebook industry, ALL Apple screens from 2010 onward are in the top 1%. The white macbook which is ranked last here actually had as good if not better specs than the macbook air's (2nd generation). Actually it may be the same screen.

The 11.6" mba's screen is actually the "worst". But that's not saying much, b/c it's like being the dumbest kid at Stanford. Still a pretty smart kid relative to everyone else.

I like the high-gamut screens, so I'd knock down the macbook air's screens now since they are not high-gamut.

The only notebook screen in mass production that can compare currently are the high-end Sonys, but only in their highest end ($2000) models. There are a few 15.6" dell xps high-res models and lenovo models that have a good screen...but my point is that you can now buy any Apple laptop and know that you're getting a screen that is in the top 1%. In case anyone cares, Lenovo uses the worst screens of any manufacturer (I give them the nod b/c their thinkpads use worse screens than many netbooks, yet they still charge exorbitantly high prices). Use a bad screen, fine. But make the price commensurate. You incur my wrath when you dare pass of a premium notebook with a bottom-of-the-barrel screen.

All in all, for a discriminating buyer who values: screen, ergonomics, and battery life, and is willing to pay a bit more for it, I don't see how anyone could conclude anything other than Apple's laptops as the right choice. When you throw in weight, thinness, and aesthetics, the gap widens considerably.

I think that it's more true that once you get used to a mac, going back to a different laptop is harder. As long as you don't taste what you're missing, you're fine.
 

iRun26.2

macrumors 68020
Aug 15, 2010
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Rev A. MBA Screen

How do the new 11.6" and 13.3" screens compare to the older MBA screen? Does anyone know if there were any upgrades in the original from initial release until Rev. C?

I want to know if my 11.6" screen (on order...not yet here) will be better than my old MBA.
 

fyrefly

macrumors 6502a
Jun 27, 2004
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How do the new 11.6" and 13.3" screens compare to the older MBA screen? Does anyone know if there were any upgrades in the original from initial release until Rev. C?

I want to know if my 11.6" screen (on order...not yet here) will be better than my old MBA.

The RevA MBA screens were awesome in their time. Not sure how they compare to the current MBA screens, but I've played with an 11" MBA and a 13" MBA and the screens on them (the 13" was the 9CF0 aka "the crappier one") were not as good as I think my RevB MBA is.

And certainly nowhere near the panels in the MBP's. At least IMHO. I'd take the better colour gamut over the low-colour, compensated with high contrast screens in the MBA any day.

I've had eye-strain HUGE on the new 11" and 13" MBA. Never on my 15" MBP or my RevB Air. The high-rez of the new screens might be a factor too... Especially on the 11" - the text is SO SMALL! :D
 
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