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nph

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Yes, now I have 8 hours with 45% battery left. ?

Correction I am back to 1.2h with 22% left.Weird I killed the antivirus apps and uninstalled...Just runningn
Books, calendar, WhatsApp, Mail and Safari 5-6 tabs.
 
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johnkree

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As someone who dedicated lots of time to malware and how it works... (per example I’ve managed to make simple Trojans invisible to Avira by just hex editing single digits inside the infectious.exe file back in the days). Things are more complex now but one thing is still the same: common malware won’t affect you on both windows and Mac. It will be patched and locked out by the OS defense systems. As long as you don’t go to shady sites or install shady software or open emails you don’t know where they are from you are pretty safe.

Malware that will affect you is 0 day malware and that is something all those fancy anti malware apps are ineffective against.

The second point that is much more dangerous is if someone is targeting you. Like a hacker that especially wants to get into your computer. And none of those anti malware things will help you in this case either.
So all of this free anti malware won’t help for anything and the paid ones are even more dangerous. They often mess with your OS security or nag you with a zillion of pop ups and warnings where every average user will start to click them just away.

the things that really help are:
Keep your system updated.
Check your process screen daily. If you see something that doesn’t belong there google it or scan it with antimalwarebytes.
don’t open shady emails, websites and stuff. Don’t install stuff you don’t know. Be especially aware of things that need your password to install.
Install apps from the AppStore or apps that have AppStore versions. Then you’re super safe. And the 1% chance that you could get malware despite doing this stuff would have ended in getting malware anyways...

It’s not worth the time anymore to think about this stuff. Especially on Macs.
 

nph

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Good points. However I used a time machine backup from my old powerbook when I see up my new M1 MBP and it had outstanding battery life with Avast and Malware bytes installed. I just restarted after uninstalling Avira and I get 6h estimate from Activity Monitor with 100% battery left. See screenshot below.
I don't get it. It is now back to what it was based on the time machine backup and still seeing lousy battery time.I guess I have to try and uninstall Avast and Malwarebytes and see if it makes a difference. Weird
 

nph

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NT1440

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Good points. However I used a time machine backup from my old powerbook when I see up my new M1 MBP and it had outstanding battery life with Avast and Malware bytes installed. I just restarted after uninstalling Avira and I get 6h estimate from Activity Monitor with 100% battery left. See screenshot below.
I don't get it. It is now back to what it was based on the time machine backup and still seeing lousy battery time.I guess I have to try and uninstall Avast and Malwarebytes and see if it makes a difference. Weird
You can install an AV program if you *want* to, but multiple ones are always going to be a problem. They interfere with each other and there is no logic to the notion that MORE AV software gets you better protection.
 
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darngooddesign

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Good points. However I used a time machine backup from my old powerbook when I see up my new M1 MBP and it had outstanding battery life with Avast and Malware bytes installed. I just restarted after uninstalling Avira and I get 6h estimate from Activity Monitor with 100% battery left. See screenshot below.
I don't get it. It is now back to what it was based on the time machine backup and still seeing lousy battery time.I guess I have to try and uninstall Avast and Malwarebytes and see if it makes a difference. Weird
Maybe your old backup is also causing the issue; try again setting up as new.
 

Bea220

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I just returned my M1 and I have to admit I wasn’t all that impressed with the battery either. It didn’t drain fast but it definitely didn’t impress me by any means... it was far better than my 2013 MBP but I wasn’t floored by it. I would read rave reviews about its battery life and I’d have to scratch my head. I only did basic stuff like surf the web and play music/videos. Didn’t quite understand why people sang its praises. For something Brand New it was just ok as far as I was concerned.

I never transferred any of my existing info from my 2013 MBP to the M1 MBP either.
 
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nph

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So if
I keep just one program should I go with Avast or Malware bytes?
 

Maconplasma

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Good points. However I used a time machine backup from my old powerbook when I see up my new M1 MBP and it had outstanding battery life with Avast and Malware bytes installed. I just restarted after uninstalling Avira and I get 6h estimate from Activity Monitor with 100% battery left. See screenshot below.
I don't get it. It is now back to what it was based on the time machine backup and still seeing lousy battery time.I guess I have to try and uninstall Avast and Malwarebytes and see if it makes a difference. Weird
Your best bet is to do a full erase of your drive, reformat and install reinstall Big Sur. It's nearly impossible to fully get rid of A/V software. It leaves too much crap behind that will cause battery drain and CPU over-usage.
 

nph

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I just returned my M1 and I have to admit I wasn’t all that impressed with the battery either. It didn’t drain fast but it definitely didn’t impress me by any means... it was far better than my 2013 MBP but I wasn’t floored by it. I would read rave reviews about its battery life and I’d have to scratch my head. I only did basic stuff like surf the web and play music/videos. Didn’t quite understand why people sang its praises. For something Brand New it was just ok as far as I was concerned.

I never transferred any of my existing info from my 2013 MBP to the M1 MBP either.
Yeah realistically I am getting maybe 12 hours with just using Mail, Safari and WhatsApp running in the background. Don't understand either how the reviewers can see anything close to ten 15 hours. Definitely not more...
Assume MBA M1 would be same or worse?
 

nph

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Does RAM make a difference? Would the people seeing long battery life potentially have 16Gig RAM machines?
 

Maconplasma

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I just returned my M1 and I have to admit I wasn’t all that impressed with the battery either. It didn’t drain fast but it definitely didn’t impress me by any means... it was far better than my 2013 MBP but I wasn’t floored by it. I would read rave reviews about its battery life and I’d have to scratch my head. I only did basic stuff like surf the web and play music/videos. Didn’t quite understand why people sang its praises. For something Brand New it was just ok as far as I was concerned.

I never transferred any of my existing info from my 2013 MBP to the M1 MBP either.
So you returned it just because it didn't fully live up to the 18-20 hours of battery life those most people are saying to achieve? Did you really need a computer? That's an odd reason to return a computer. It's not like you can get better battery life anywhere else.
 

nph

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I have found some virus from time to time but I am trying now without to see if that improve battery life. Weird, I used to have the same set up on my Macbook 2017 and even with Avast and Malwarebytes I had great battery life until last year when it dropped but on the other hand then battery hit 3 years so kind of expected.
 

justinf77

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Your Safari energy impact is outta control... really curious if there's some tab you have open regularly that's chewing through the CPU. This is where a screenshot of your CPU tab would be helpful.
 
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Corncab44

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I'm not thrilled with the battery on my M1 MBA. It's obviously much better if you only use optimized apps, though that isn't always possible, and even the AS Chrome eats up battery.

That said, why do you have so much junk installed on your computer?
 

nph

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Not ware I have much junk honestly. My old iMac has a ton of old stuff but not this one. What are you thinking of specifically?
 

nph

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I stopped using Chrome already on previous machine... So now after uninstalling Avast and Malwarebytes I see 15hours with 88% left. So it seemed they were the culprits. Although I am just reading web pages in Safari and send emails now. But still, quite ok.
Thanks for all advice!
 

Quackers

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I stopped using Chrome already on previous machine... So now after uninstalling Avast and Malwarebytes I see 15hours with 88% left. So it seemed they were the culprits. Although I am just reading web pages in Safari and send emails now. But still, quite ok.
Thanks for all advice!
That's more like it :)
 

Corncab44

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Did you also uninstalled chrome. Otherwise you still have resourced used by chrome in the background. See chromeisbad.com
Chrome eats battery even if it's not running? I need it for work but otherwise have it closed. Was not aware.
 

ca$hman

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Chrome eats battery even if it's not running? I need it for work but otherwise have it closed. Was not aware.
If you do need Chrome, you can disable the Keystone processes via the "launchctl unload -w" command in terminal. That helps. after the command you need to add the path to the 2 LaunchDemon processes.
 

Bea220

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So you returned it just because it didn't fully live up to the 18-20 hours of battery life those most people are saying to achieve? Did you really need a computer? That's an odd reason to return a computer. It's not like you can get better battery life anywhere else.
Heh.... nooooo it wasn’t WHY I returned it. I was just throwing in my 2 cents. I just wasn’t enamored with it and decided to wait for this years MBP instead. Hoping for the 14 inch and if that doesn’t get released I may go for the 16 inch. Honestly it was a lovely computer but I wasn’t blown away. With the redesign on the horizon I decided to wait it out some more...
 
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