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JouniS

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The 16” is a desktop replacement. The size and weight is comparable/better than the typical large desktop replacement laptops/gaming laptops.

For purely portable users, Apple intended the MacBook Air for that segment.
I actually see this the opposite way.

The MBA is a great desktop replacement for home and office. When you need to work for extended periods, you plug in a single cable that charges the laptop and connects it to the external monitor / keyboard / mouse / whatever. When you need to move the laptop, you just unplug the cable and go. The M1 is certainly powerful enough for most uses.

The 16" MBP is great for travel. Larger display makes you more productive when you can't use an external monitor. And due to the wider range of ports, you can more often connect things directly to the laptop without having to find the right adapter/cable in your bag.
 

yitwail

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I actually see this the opposite way.

The MBA is a great desktop replacement for home and office. When you need to work for extended periods, you plug in a single cable that charges the laptop and connects it to the external monitor / keyboard / mouse / whatever. When you need to move the laptop, you just unplug the cable and go. The M1 is certainly powerful enough for most uses.

The 16" MBP is great for travel. Larger display makes you more productive when you can't use an external monitor. And due to the wider range of ports, you can more often connect things directly to the laptop without having to find the right adapter/cable in your bag.
What keeps you from connecting an external monitor/keyboard/mouse to the 16” MBP when you’re at home? Then you wouldn’t need the MBA.
 

Jorbanead

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Aug 31, 2018
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so then buy the macbook air.
Get a MBA and put a Hello Kitty sticker on it.
Yeah this is what I was thinking. If you want light and thin, go with the MacBook Air. That’s why it’s called an “air” because it’s light and thin!

If you want professional performance, go with the pro. What you miss in thinness you make up for in performance. Seems pretty straightforward to me. AFAIK these new laptops are being hailed as Apple finally, for once, ACTUALLY listening to customers and basically giving them what they want.
 

magbarn

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Touch bar is very useful if you know how to use it. You apparently didn’t
That's pretty subjective there. It negates muscle memory and slows down keyboard use for many of us. And if it was such a success, why did Apple strip it from their Pro line of MacBooks? It also never made it to their iMac or Mac Pro lines either...
 
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profH

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While these look like amazing machines, I'm a bit baffled that Apple finally built a chip that could make a functional work machine out of the excessively-slim chassis of the last 6 years, but then used that chip to instead create significantly bulkier machines with an outlandish amount of power for most professional users.

The M1 MBA is so powerful that it is practically more usable in day-to-day work computing than my 16-inch Intel MBP. If the future doesn't hold a multi-sized (i.e. 15/16 inch) "Air" line to sit alongside this incredibly powerful, aptly named but bulkier Pro line, I'll be somewhat disappointed.
 

cupcakes2000

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It's people like OP that want form over function and style over substance that cheeses me off.
What on earth has it got to do with you what someone else wants or feels is more important? It’s one thing arguing your case on the internet, it’s a whole other thing to be actually personally annoyed at someone, or a group of people.
 

tis

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Perfectly happy with the added weight/thickness if it means I can ditch the crap thin butterfly keyboard & scorching intel chips
The butterfly keyboard has been gone, and the “scorching intel chips” had nothing to do with the overall aesthetic. Do you not realize the Air is extremely thin, uses the same keyboard as the Pro models, and doesn’t use an intel chip?

Great post. It made absolutely no sense.
 

tis

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The 16” is a desktop replacement. The size and weight is comparable/better than the typical large desktop replacement laptops/gaming laptops.

The 14” is a portable workstation. The size for the battery life and performance, again, is comparable/better to other portable workstations.

For purely portable users, Apple intended the MacBook Air for that segment.

I do agree that for now, Apple doesn’t have any solutions for those wanting a thin-n-light larger screen laptop. It doesn’t seem to be a popular segment as there are not that many options on the Windows world either.
It’s not that a larger Air wouldn’t be a popular segment. Apple just won’t produce one because half of the people who don’t need the Pro, but still buy one, would then buy the cheaper laptop. They force people into a more expensive device by not offering an alternative device with the same screen size. They’ve done this with almost every product line they’ve produced.
 
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Vratikranka

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Oct 28, 2019
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I went with great expectations to the shop today to see the new MBPs. What ugly heavy crap.

The most off putting thing is the thickness and weight of these machines. To make them appear thinner they apparently rounded the corners. Otherwise it would have been obvious what huge technological failure these bricks are. They feel as if I just moved back 15 years in computing history. These MBP are not cool anymore.

There are tons of people who want bigger screens but don't need more computing power and don't want to carry such heavy machines.

Cheers
You have to understand that if you feel they're TOO THICK for you, then they actually are too thick FOR YOU!
These are designed for professionals who carry out heavy CPU intensive tasks. You're probably better off with MBA instead. I understand the frustration of not having a MBA 15-16" version for those who like bigger portable screen but I believe Apple has that in mind and well aware about the void left which will probably be filled by next year's MBA refresh.
 

edfoo

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What on earth has it got to do with you what someone else wants or feels is more important? It’s one thing arguing your case on the internet, it’s a whole other thing to be actually personally annoyed at someone, or a group of people.
They are the people who are constantly demanding slimmer new models from Apple i.e. iPhone, so we have been getting new models with reduced battery size thus shorter battery hours from Apple.
 
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ian87w

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It’s not that a larger Air wouldn’t be a popular segment. Apple just won’t produce one because half of the people who don’t need the Pro, but still buy one, would then buy the cheaper laptop. They force people into a more expensive device by not offering an alternative device with the same screen size. They’ve done this with almost every product line they’ve produced.
Of course, there's that as well, the upselling tactic. But if we look at PCs, 15"+ thin-n-light is not that common either. The only one I could think of is the LG Gram.
 

danmorgz

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Ever since becoming obsessed with this site waiting for mpb reviews there seems to be so much turd on this forum like this by the OP. Fanboy -> bait -> fanboy -> bait.
 

foobarbaz

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Fun fact, they really aren't thicker than the MBPs which they replace; you just fell for an optical illusion.
But it’s not just an optical trick: they also feel thinner and that makes an actual difference when handling them.

I’m going to agree that the physicals are a downgrade, especially for those who only bought the 16 inch only for the screen size. I think there would be a real market for a thin 15 inch Air now that the MBP is an uncompromising Pro machine (which frankly it should have always been).
 
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