Lol so many intel trolls trying to decrease MBP sales.
I'm currently typing on my MBP 14 Max(32 GPU). This thing is a beast!
I'm currently typing on my MBP 14 Max(32 GPU). This thing is a beast!
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MBP 14" 16" major disappointment
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Congrats, after that ridiculous "why all those 'legacy' ports in the M1 Max?" thread, we have now achieved the next level of trollism.
Please don't buy these new Pro devices then, since you obviously ain't one. M1 Air will be fine and thin enough for your meetings at Starbucks.
For the rest of us (+all reviewers) these are the best Macbooks of their time. Function > Design, period.
Please don't buy these new Pro devices then, since you obviously ain't one. M1 Air will be fine and thin enough for your meetings at Starbucks.
For the rest of us (+all reviewers) these are the best Macbooks of their time. Function > Design, period.
This dude is probably a troll.
Either way, if this machine that foregoes form in favour of function doesn't gain appeal, I dunno, does people really want to sacrifice 3 hours of battery life just so the machine "feels" thinner? You ain't gonna use it like an iPad with both hands holding all day long, even for MacBook air.
Either way, if this machine that foregoes form in favour of function doesn't gain appeal, I dunno, does people really want to sacrifice 3 hours of battery life just so the machine "feels" thinner? You ain't gonna use it like an iPad with both hands holding all day long, even for MacBook air.
I’ll be honest, I actually love the look.
However, as I’ll be using mine for work, the main bit I care about, aside from performance, battery life keyboard quality and port selection obviously, is the bit I’ll actually be spending all day looking at - the display.
And oooooohhhhhh man does that look like it’s going to be one heckofa thing to sit and look at.
I tend not to plonk my laptop on a table and spend all day admiring its various nuances from every angle, I have too much work to get through.
Nor am I so shallow that I give a figs fart what other people might think of it’s style, if I happen to be working in a coffee shop or the park/wherever.
The fact that these buggers outperform every Mac I’ve ever owned, and every Windows computer I have ever/do own, while offering amazing battery life, quiet operation, a screen that can melt your eyes and a significant reduction in my dongle life, is what matters to me.
I’ve traveled with laptops which weighed twice as much - to put that into perspective, more than my 27” iMac weighed (which is crazy) and that didn’t bother me.
And nowadays I either have just the MacBook and a minimum of extras. Or so much extra, unrelated gubbins that a small increase in Mac weight will hardly matter - wee bit more exercise
I don’t get why people are freaking out about things like it being thicker - it’s not. Or the notch eating into the screen space - it doesn’t, it actually gives you more by moving the menu bar up and out of the usual 16:10 screen area.
I’ll grant you, they could have re-added the ports and still kept the tapered design, to give the illusion of the MacBook being thinner than it is. But instead, they made a sensible decision to maximise the internal space and improve things like speaker quality.
I’m definitely curious as to who’s actually complaining about the changes. Average consumers, who want to pose with their shiny new toy which is more computer than they’ll ever need. Or actual professionals, who’ve been complaining (I have) for years that Apple has been ignoring the exact things they have given us back this generation.
Maybe we should start a poll? Or maybe, just maybe we could acknowledge that there’s far more important things happening in life and around the world, than whether a computer also has to serve as a piece of art?
And maybe, just maybe, ok definitely, I shouldn’t start waffling on when my morphine kicks in ??
Exactly. There is a growing number of posts from people who have low post counts that are clearly BS posts. I'm a bit disturbed that MR isn't doing anything about them.
I always find it weird when someone who doesn't own a product comes into a specific forum to tell us they don't like it.
Why on earth would anyone in here care that you specifically don't like it? Is that supposed to mean something to us? It would be like me walking up to you on the street and saying "I don't like your shirt. I don't own the shirt, and don't know you or why you might like the shirt, but I don't like it and want to make sure I let you know that I don't like it."
Maybe too much time on their hands I guess.
Why on earth would anyone in here care that you specifically don't like it? Is that supposed to mean something to us? It would be like me walking up to you on the street and saying "I don't like your shirt. I don't own the shirt, and don't know you or why you might like the shirt, but I don't like it and want to make sure I let you know that I don't like it."
Maybe too much time on their hands I guess.
LMAO
Ok dude. Go buy a Macbook Air or an Ipad Pro with a Keyboard and have a good time.
Can we just start one single thread labelled:
"I'm b!tching about how the MBP 14/16 hurt my feelings" thread.
"I'm b!tching about how the MBP 14/16 hurt my feelings" thread.
Let me quantify why the new MBP 14" feels like stone age.
I used to have a MBP 13" 2015 then switched to the M1 MBA (very happy with it). When I lifted the MBP 14" 2021 in the shop I immediately disliked it.
Why? Not only is it the heaviest 13/14 inch MBP in the last decade, it also has the biggest density. So it is not only heavy, it also feels very heavy - stone age heavy. Even my bulky HP Z-Book feels lighter. Apple is apparently aware of this so they added some rounded corners to soften this stone-age brick.
I used to have a MBP 13" 2015 then switched to the M1 MBA (very happy with it). When I lifted the MBP 14" 2021 in the shop I immediately disliked it.
Why? Not only is it the heaviest 13/14 inch MBP in the last decade, it also has the biggest density. So it is not only heavy, it also feels very heavy - stone age heavy. Even my bulky HP Z-Book feels lighter. Apple is apparently aware of this so they added some rounded corners to soften this stone-age brick.
| width cm | depth cm | thickness cm | kg | Volume | density | |
| Macbook Pro 13" 3rd Gen | 31.4 | 21.9 | 1.9 | 1.57 | 0.00131 | 1 201.63 |
| Macbook Pro 13" 4th Gen | 30.4 | 21.2 | 1.5 | 1.4 | 0.00097 | 1 448.20 |
| Macbook Pro 14" 5th Gen | 31.3 | 22.1 | 1.55 | 1.6 | 0.00107 | 1 492.28 |
| Macbook Air 13" M1 | 30 | 21.2 | 1.6 | 1.29 | 0.00102 | 1 267.69 |
| HP Z-Book Firefly 15 G7 | 35.94 | 23.34 | 1.93 | 1.7 | 0.00162 | 1 050.06 |
Wow, most people can't feel density, we don't have the sensors for it. (feels heavier is not a useful measurement and probably has something to do with the state of mind more than anything)
The new MBP is pretty heavy for a 14" thin and light laptop though, no doubt of that. I wish they'd make them in something other than metal, but what we have is what we have. My X1 Carbon is pound lighter, but it's slower and doesn't have as good a screen.
oh come on!! If they made them of carbon or anything else, everyone would complain!
I couldn't, I ordered the 14" MBP Max. The 16" would be pure desktop range for me.
The old iBooks weren't that lighter than similar sized PowerBoosk but surely thicker (same should be true for the original MacBook vs MacBookPro).
Most of the weight is the battery, cooling system and display, you'd have to use really flimsy plastics to make any significant weight losses.
-> hope the either make a smaller "proper" MacBookPro (doubt it) or a bigger Air (if that is enough for you) but right now you want find anywhere near the same power in that weight class outside of Apple.
It is a bull **** post. They are trying to get people not to buy the laptops. There have been an explosion of these posts in the past couple of days. The best thing is just to ignore the posts.
They are doing something about it. They are sending out warnings to people who complain about the trolls.
Bottom line, its impossible to determine if any poster is a troll, or if they are just a very young person(like maybe a 12 year old), or maybe they have an executive function disorder, or maybe they have just bought into the thin is great mantra of the last 5 years, and simply cannot change.
So MR is right in doing this since there is no clear test to determine if the posting is deliberate or the result of one of the above situations, or more.
I've been accused of being one of those trolls, so I'm a bit less likely to say something about that, other than to say I'm a Mac owner just like the majority here, and I like them. They're not perfect though!
But I had to comment on the feels like and density, I couldn't help myself.
Same exact **** happens with the iPhone on this forum, like I said in the 13 series complaint thread:
"Battery life sucks! I wish Apple would make their devices thicker and give us a better battery!"
followed by, of course,
"These things are so heavy!!! Why do we need all of this battery life!"
"Battery life sucks! I wish Apple would make their devices thicker and give us a better battery!"
followed by, of course,
"These things are so heavy!!! Why do we need all of this battery life!"
Maybe you have been to emotionally involved the last RAM-war rounds.
This is a pro machine. Normal pro workflows are exactly your described scenes. With Final Cut und affinity Designer running, I had red RAM stress indication and 10 GB swap.
Your are absolutely right, Apple chips are pretty good at managing RAM. There are 3 categories of “RAM” l: actively used one, cache (anticipated by the OS) and swap files (to ssd). Use of No1 is real use, No 2 is good to have space for. Wenn No 3 happens in a significant way, you have to less ram.
People were sold the idea that Apple silicon is so godly powerful and efficient that they don't need to be thick Windows bricks with fans then Apple came out with exactly that a 4.8 pound brick with even bigger fans. Only difference is Apple's fan profile prefers letting the processor cook so they can market it as not needing a fan. That is what people are having issues with.
Disappointed? No. Surprised they aren't using these amazing chips to produce a slightly larger range of options for different use profiles? Yes.