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Metal in iOS 9 will bring smoother animations
- Thread starter Andres Cantu
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You wanna know what I find to be funny? You have people complain that a beta isn't polished. Then, you have people who claim "That's to be expected... it's a BETA! Of course it's not going to be perfect". So then, people shrug it off because it's only a beta and they wait for the final release. THEN, when things haven't changed one single bit from the beta, people get upset because they didn't do the proper optimizations to the beta because people assumed the problems would have been fixed for the final release.
Betas are a double edged sword.
Betas are a double edged sword.
Oh don't you worry. No matter how poor iOS 9 is/ isn't, i'll always see iOS 8 as a disaster.
The GM for iOS 9 will have to be magically amazing then for that to happen! Lets hope it is.
The biggest concern I have is that iOS9 is being touted as a performance and battery life optimization release. As such, the expectation would be to see progressive improvements on these two things throughout the beta period. However, based on the feedback gathered on this forum, it seems like that has not been the case even on the final beta.
This has always been my thought, and why I take issue with anyone who tries to shut someone up as soon as they point out a flaw in a beta product - that's exactly what a company/developer wants people to do!
To be fair, beta 1 was a nightmare with battery life and performance while beta 5 is decent and usable as a daily driver. There have been progressive improvements but probably not what most were expecting/wanted.
Is this employed in the beta? Because mine have been pretty damn choppy. Running with a 6+.
You make a fair point, but it's not about shutting people up. It's about being ok with the fact that a beta release should not be compared to a stable release. The only thing that will lead to is frustration, which is why I reiterate that once iOS 9 is released, we can make all the comparisons and speed tests we want. If iOS 9 turns out to be slower than iOS 8, then we can complain with justified frustration
I think iOS 9 might actually be much better than iOS 8. In 8, the storage and just overall bugs/lags in it really make it an overall poor operating system. It should have built on the foundation of iOS 7 but instead it took a step back. iOS 9 will finally deliver at what should have released last year.
Even some of the smaller changes, like the changing to Wallet instead of Passbook make more sense too. I also think the 1.3 total GB it will take up will be a huge hit with a lot of people who have 16GB phones. I haven't downloaded any of the betas yet to my iPhone 6+ but in a couple more weeks we will see the full release of iOS 9, and it can't come soon enough.
Got a replacement phone last night from an Apple store.
Was surprised how much smoother animations were in iOS 8...
Was surprised how much smoother animations were in iOS 8...
iOS 8.4.1 is great, but as per usual it's taken Apple a year to get the OS to a point where it's at its best.
This happens very year. The current version of iOS reaches a mature point where it's smooth and fluid and then the new version launches and we're back to square one with complaints of lag, animation stutters, and bugs.
We'll go through it all again with iOS 9 and just when it becomes usable, Apple will replace it with iOS X.
This happens very year. The current version of iOS reaches a mature point where it's smooth and fluid and then the new version launches and we're back to square one with complaints of lag, animation stutters, and bugs.
We'll go through it all again with iOS 9 and just when it becomes usable, Apple will replace it with iOS X.
Agreed. Re-installed iOS 9 again on the new phone. You don't actually the difference until you go back using 8.4, so I guess it's not a major stepback.
The keyboard though, I was typing so much faster last night.
The whole point of iOS 9 was exactly to end this pattern. I hope Apple has done this with the iOS 9 GM which will be released next week.
I don't think that was the "whole point" of iOS 9. Apple made a bigger deal of multitasking for the iPad than they did Metal.
Can anyone find a direct quote from the keynote where it says Metal will be used to make iOS UI animations smoother? Just in case we're majorly misinterpreting things here.
For me, and I know that this splits opinion, the entire new version of iOS "lag" and "slowdown" is part of Apple's strategy. They know some/many users notice their devices getting slower and get the urge to upgrade.
It's worked so far with me, I've not owned a badly lagging iOS device since iOS 4 on the iPhone 3G due to frequent uograding on both the iPhone and iPad side. Hopefully iOS 9 doesn't turn my beautifully fast and responsive Air 2 into a PoS.
I don't know about 8.4.1 since I installed the public beta after iOS 8.4. The first PB did bring about a noticeable improvement in overall smoothness. The 2nd PB actuality made my phone more laggy (especially in areas with poor reception). The 3rd PB makes my iPhone 5s feel way smoother than the 1st PB but with noticeably shorter battery life.
I think that is where metal comes in - making animations and transitions appear smoother and faster.
In the keynote video go to 1:07:15 they briefly talk about Metal. 1.6x faster at drawing and 50% less CPU when drawing now that it's used for core animation.
Also a quick blurb about Metal on the iOS 9 webpage.
"Faster and more responsive.
The apps in iOS 9 now take advantage of Metal, making more efficient use of the CPU and GPU to deliver faster scrolling, smoother animation and better overall performance. Email, messages, web pages and PDFs render faster. And multitasking features on iPad feel fluid and natural."
And your point is? lol
I was answering a question someone asked. Not sure why you needed to add a useless comment about it.
You make a fair point, but it's not about shutting people up. It's about being ok with the fact that a beta release should not be compared to a stable release. The only thing that will lead to is frustration, which is why I reiterate that once iOS 9 is released, we can make all the comparisons and speed tests we want. If iOS 9 turns out to be slower than iOS 8, then we can complain with justified frustration
I know what you're saying, but I suppose what I'm saying is that if we "moan" that a beta is running slowly then the developers can look to prevent it being slow when it's launched. It takes a comparison to a stable release to know what something should or shouldn't do.
I don't understand how a company with virtually unlimited resources like Apple can't even push out a decent software update. Mind you, there's nothing special about iOS 9 except for the touted battery life and performance improvements.. WHICH IS WORSE THAN BEFORE! I honestly am baffled how incompetent they've been. What the hell have they been doing all year???
Hey, no need to be rude. My point was two-fold:
1) I was hoping we could both have a little giggle about the fact someone was asking for a quote when this whole thread is about the quote. There is virtually nothing else in the OP other than that quote.
2) I had also answered the question by pointing to this quote.
By the way, it was interesting that you referred to the keynote in your post, because I didn't think it was something you ever watched. You never got back to me on this: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-x-10-what-are-we-expecting.1907249/#post-21713239
Thanks, appreciate you taking the time to reply. There's always one idiot who feels the need to turn what has been a good discussion into a nit picking contest.
What was wrong with simply saying look at the first post in the thread, from which the discussion stemmed?
I was actually willing to copy and paste it for you, but I thought that would be too patronising!
Sorry I didn't your answer in exactly the way you wanted.