Meta's 'Super Sensing' Prototype Glasses Quietly Record Everything

[Piggie]

That's obviously illegal in the EU

Is Recording Someone Without Their Consent Lawful in the UK? A Detailed Guide

This piece explores your rights. It gives specifics on key legal acts and clarifies where the line sits between lawful recording and a breach of privacy.

www.justicedirectory.co.uk

Public Space:
Recording in a public area is generally lawful. This includes streets, parks, public transport, and open shopping centres. People in public do not expect privacy. This applies to filming both adults and children.


Recording Your Own Conversation:
You do have the right to record a conversation you are a part of. You do not need to tell the other person for the recording to be legal, provided you keep it for your own personal use. This includes phone calls.



Phoenix House v Stockman (2016)

The Issue: An employee secretly recorded a meeting with HR and used it in her unfair dismissal claim. The employer said this was gross misconduct.

The Finding: The court said the recording was admissible. It ruled that secretly recording a meeting is generally misconduct, but it is not automatically a valid reason for dismissal. The court considers the employee’s reason for recording. Was it for honest record-keeping or was it an attempt to trap the employer?

Punjab National Bank v Gosain (2014)

The Issue: An employee recorded an investigation meeting. She continued to record the conversation of managers after she left the room. The recording captured highly offensive comments about her.

The Finding: The court admitted the full recording as evidence. It ruled that the evidence was too relevant to the employee's case to exclude. The recording showed the employer’s true attitude

 

[Piggie]

I can totally see that people would want a recording when speaking to a contractor when it comes to some home improvement/modifications.

So many times you hear about disputes between builders and home owners, what was said, what was promised.

If both sides have a recording of conversations that took place, then really it should instantly kill the prospect of problems occurring's, and who promised what and avoid any disputes as everything it open.

 

[boswald]

While this is creepy on a personal level, it would be a godsend for capturing corruption (dirty car salesmen, perverted bosses, politicians, etc).

 

[Piggie]

While this is creepy on a personal level, it would be a godsend for capturing corruption (dirty car salesmen, perverted bosses, politicians, etc).

Exactly....

And it has always always annoyed the hell out of me how: Sneaky, Rude, Devious, Corrupt, Sexist, Racist, Abusive so called "Leaders" / "Bosses" / "Managers" / "Officials" can be, and hide behind their fake smiling polite face when anyone from the outside meets them.

 

[Omega Mac]

Feed the AI model.

 

[Omega Mac]

I can see AI glasses like this being banned, tricky in public places but private establishments etc. maybe easier to gate keep, and tbh they will probably become publicly ostracisable behaviour before any "law" comes to help, humans are social and to be honest this "product' type has always seemed the most unsocial, creepy unsocial type, for creeps.

Meanwhile Alan Dye is working on this project at Meta right?

 

[turbineseaplane]

I can see AI glasses like this being banned, tricky in public places but private establishments etc. maybe easier to gate keep, and tbh they will probably become publicly ostracisable behaviour before any "law" comes to help, humans are social and to be honest this "product' type has always seemed the most unsocial, creepy unsocial type, for creeps.

Meanwhile Alan Dye is working on this project at Meta right?

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He's looking at a Liquid Glass UI on his music App and trying to tell where the playbar is I think.

 

[Omega Mac]

He's looking at a Liquid Glass UI on his music App and trying to tell where the playbar is I think.

Maybe there is no GLASS in those frames, the frames are simulating glass by invoking the cognative onlookers bias matrix 😉

 

[Piggie]

The point being, what when wearing them becomes "the norm"

Probably the same happened when the 1st few people bought automobiles and were getting in the way of horses and pedestrians.
Those with those early automobiles where the odd ones, the ones that stood out and were not doing the same as most people were.
And of course probably suffered abuse and bad feelings from those who did not like these new things.

Many years passed and now everyone accepts the cars on the road. Pedestrians have learned to keep to the pavements/sidewalks and out of their ways, and Horses are the thing that may get complained about for being on the road.

IMHO this is simply another one of those transitions.
Let's give it perhaps 5 or 10, even 20 years from now, with most people wearing some form of smart glasses and this debate/argument will simply not exist anymore.

 

[turbineseaplane]

The point being, what when wearing them becomes "the norm"

Probably the same happened when the 1st few people bought automobiles and were getting in the way of horses and pedestrians.
Those with those early automobiles where the odd ones, the ones that stood out and were not doing the same as most people were.
And of course probably suffered abuse and bad feelings from those who did not like these new things.

Many years passed and now everyone accepts the cars on the road. Pedestrians have learned to keep to the pavements/sidewalks and out of their ways, and Horses are the thing that may get complained about for being on the road.

Cars have actually completely destroyed cities and walkable spaces and the quality of life for normal humans in those areas.

Nothing about that has been desirable, so it's ironic you chose that example.

Around the world, it's been incredible to see the transformations of major cities (like Paris) that have occurred from restricting and in places fully eliminating car traffic.

 

[thebart]

I don't think you're being realistic. Not even remotely.
They look just like a LOT of ordinary glasses I've seen people wearing day to day. Now if you can buy some glasses that may help you out and you're in to IT or maybe you're simply going for a walk in the street/wilderness and want to document it, couple that with the fact that these look FAR less hassle to hold than a phone, especially for someone that already normally wears glasses.

No doubt there are legit uses for these glasses. But the fact that Meta wants to hide the recording LED shows they know what some will use these glasses for.

Conveniently, the current fashion trend favors large glasses with thick frames, so these smart glasses won't stand out so much.

 

[Piggie]

IMHO, Apple needs to do 2 things:

1: Lump any electronics to the back of the device (around the back of your neck) to both balance any weight and also make the actual frames as thin as possible.

2: Offload all the compute to your iPhone that's in your pocket/handbag.

Keeping them thin and light and performing the very best

 

[subjonas]

Always remember that Zuckerberg has enough cash to liquidate Meta and give all his employees a $1m severence.

Wouldn't that be an illegal move for a publicly traded company?