While I'm extremely skeptical, I hope they are. This will cause apple to try harder, maybe lower ssd and ram upgrade prices to remain competitive...
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Microsoft Says Windows Laptops With Snapdragon X Elite Will Be Faster Than M3 MacBook Air
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I've been waiting for a serious competitor to enter the PC market after Apple showed them the way. Finally the CPU world is getting interesting again!
Yes but can it run Doom?
That's very unlikely. Apple does not compete with Windows machines. The main selling point for Macs was never performance – or a low price. I admit Apple is touting CPU performance ever since they have their own chips, but even so, that is not the reason people get Macs.
Intel had it coming to them since failing to retain Apple account: first losing iPhone to competition and then Mac.
Sad to see the progression, but the guys who built Intel are not there any more to "fire themselves" and turn things around.
Sad to see the progression, but the guys who built Intel are not there any more to "fire themselves" and turn things around.
My point wasn't "is there a good reason to focus on processing unit efficiency as a key metric" ....of course that makes sense, as you said especially for a laptop. However, that doesn't mean it is the ONLY reason and that any other possible reason, as the previous poster said, is "who cares"....plenty of people needing laptops for a variety of uses cases care. The previous comment was dismissive and narrow minded and I was calling attention to the boarder use and scope of computers (laptops included) that exist outside the scope of what Apple focuses all of their marketing on.
Perhaps more info is helpful.And conveniently, not a single word regarding battery life. 🤔
Oh well, if people use their 21% faster Qualcomm-powered laptops while plugged in all the time, I guess poor battery life doesn't really matter...?
We tested it: Here's how the Snapdragon X Elite compares to Apple Silicon and Intel
Snapdragon X Elite is looking pretty good
www.xda-developers.com
Also mention in a another related article
From that linked article
So some limitation when comparing Rosetta 2 to the x64 emulation that these Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite based products would use.
So, wait:
We will be replacing a set of chips that run hot and inefficient with a different set of chips that run hot and inefficient (and require fans)?
Seems legit.
We will be replacing a set of chips that run hot and inefficient with a different set of chips that run hot and inefficient (and require fans)?
Seems legit.
Would love to see competition finally come out.
Also how is battery life on this?
Also how is battery life on this?
Windows 10/11 is already superior to MacOS. It would be great if the processing power can catch up as well.
If history is any guide Apple will much to quickly EOL Rosetta2.
Competition is good. Apple introduced a superior chip and now MS/Qualcomm are trying to one up them. I wish WinQual, Wincomm (or whatever mashup replaces Wintel) success. Then I wish Apple success beating them again. And so forth, and so on, all the way to the singularity.
Can’t wait! I hope it has a decent GPU and decent battery life…
anything to have lighter laptop with decent GPU is good enough for now - my current Windows laptop is half computer, half hair dryer…
anything to have lighter laptop with decent GPU is good enough for now - my current Windows laptop is half computer, half hair dryer…
Chip with 2x the number of cores is faster than a chip with half. News at 11.
It seems too hard nowadays to take half a minute to check before writing, instead of just doing a copy & paste.
It seems too hard nowadays to take half a minute to check before writing, instead of just doing a copy & paste.
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I am curious about the decision to only use performance cores. I wonder if underclocking some of them would turn them into efficiency cores?
I am also curious about the cost. If the price of the chip is close to an M3 Pro, the comparison with an M3 wouldn't really be fair. I think Qualcom only wanted one SKU, so they targeted the mid-range of Apple's offerings. Something powerful enough for high-end pro laptops, but not so powerful it couldn't be used in cheaper models.
I am also curious about the cost. If the price of the chip is close to an M3 Pro, the comparison with an M3 wouldn't really be fair. I think Qualcom only wanted one SKU, so they targeted the mid-range of Apple's offerings. Something powerful enough for high-end pro laptops, but not so powerful it couldn't be used in cheaper models.
That seems to be true reading various articles on this topic. Well MS has to try to show that they are progressive.
We're not getting M4 chips until end of 2025 or early 2026. These Microsoft Snapdragon-powered laptops are coming out later this year.
Will Apple take the lead with M4? Probably. But we'll also see faster Snapdragon chips by then too. Such is the tech evolution cycle.
Well, I sure hope they are, otherwise it would be very embarrassing for Qualcomm. It's 12 performance cores vs. 4 performance + 4 efficiency cores after all. I already think it's a bit odd that they only claim 20% improvements on some niche workloads, the 12-core Elite should run circles around M3 in multi-core.
I remember when people debated 25mhz vs 33mhz 68030 cpus, passionately, as if it were some absolutely crucial concern.
I see little has changed since the early 1990s.
I see little has changed since the early 1990s.