iPad Pro Mini LED vs Amoled, 12.9 M1 iPad pro vs Galaxy Tab S7+

[thunng8]

I have taken some pictures to illustrate. With and without light (it's almost 1pm here). The only thing I have without a screen protector is a 14in USB C monitor from lenovo, which I connected to the 11in pro (the TAB S7+ is on the right). Honestly, even without a screen protector the monitor is not dark because of reflectivity....
Also the angle combined with the light makes the screens look more greyish, if you look in front of it, it's darker
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By the way this year Samsung will be launching in addition to the TAB S8 and S8+, an S8 ultra which will be 14.6in, exactly the size of this Lenovo monitor if you turn the chin into screen (92% screen to body ratio), with a huge 46wh battery and, the crazy thing, is that it will be lighter than the 12.9 iPad pro at 650gr....

S7+ looks grey to me with ambient lighting. Not good at all. Great in you have lights off though.

I doubt s8 ultra will be 650g. Not sure how adding over 2inches to the screen will only add 60g in weight.

 

[pdoherty]

What's the point of the new ipad having deeper blacks if they're made greyer under a matte screen protector? Even AtFolix's product photo on Amazon shows how degraded the blacks are with the matte screen protector on top.

I just got these and it doesn’t obscure the screen that I can tell.

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[DiegoA]

That Galaxy Ultra 14.6" OLED tablet will be a popular item. I for one will be waiting for that.

Yeah, it will be the ultimate video watching experience, especially being as light as it is... In addition, their tablets can become an external monitor natively on Windows, without installing any drivers, just like Sidercar, but with touch (and sound, I don't have a modern Mac so I don't know if sidecar can transfer sound to the iPad...).

Samsung is smart, they can't compete in terms of power, since Apple is miles away of anyone else, so they take segments of the market that are not covered by Apple (a lot of people here, me included, would buy instantly a 14.5/15in iPad, but that does not seem in Apple's plans...).

A 14.6" OLED tablet sounds great to me too. But the image from Samsung's questionnaire is odd. Why make the bezels so thin on the tablet that a notch becomes necessary for the frontside cameras? If you're watching movies that fill the screen or looking at a full screen photo, who wants a notch intruding on (for instance) that panorama of blue sky and landscape?

And won't an even thinner 14.6" tablet be at even greater risk for bending?

 

[FrozenDarkness]

i personally own both of these and one thing I can’t stand with the S7+ is the white pixel shimmering.

 

[Digitalguy]

S7+ looks grey to me with ambient lighting. Not good at all. Great in you have lights off though.

I doubt s8 ultra will be 650g. Not sure how adding over 2inches to the screen will only add 60g in weight.

First, it's not a 60g difference, if you refer to Max Tech video, the weight is wrong and I added a comment to their video. My S7+ weighs 560gr so it's 90gr more, not 60.
How did they make it? They say they spread the same components over a larger surface, that's why it's even thinner. So basically the 12000mah battery (vs 10090 in the S7+) is larger and thinner. So it is indeed feasible, as with OLED you can make thinners devices than with LCD.
As for bending this is not a device you would take around with you and if you do you better use the magnetic back cover / kickstand that will make sturdier... The Thinkvision monitor in the picture is even thinner and I have no worries that it will ever bend, it's pretty hard...

 

[Digitalguy]

i personally own both of these and one thing I can’t stand with the S7+ is the white pixel shimmering.

I don't understand the word shimmering, is it to do with PWM? I can't see any PWM, I think some people are sensitive to it other aren't...
As for the white balance, the default one is not great, but I set it to warm, which is closer to iPad with true tone, and you can also play with the blue light filter...

 

[Digitalguy]

A 14.6" OLED tablet sounds great to me too. But the image from Samsung's questionnaire is odd. Why make the bezels so thin on the tablet that a notch becomes necessary for the frontside cameras? If you're watching movies that fill the screen or looking at a full screen photo, who wants a notch intruding on (for instance) that panorama of blue sky and landscape?

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And won't an even thinner 14.6" tablet be at even greater risk for bending?

I think the purpose is to make is as compact as possible, in landscape it sill probably be almost as tall than the 12.9 iPad pro, but a bit longer... It will definitely be much smaller than my surface book clipboard.
As for bending, I replied above...

 

[Love-hate 🍏 relationship]

Your post contains several assumptions and personal opinions that you state as facts.
The reason Apple went with Miniled is just your assumption.
The Tab S7+ is very bright, some have measured the brightness to almost 600 nits and I see little difference in max brightness with my 11 pro. And even in this video, despite the much more reflective screen of the Samsung, you can see there is not much difference in brightness outdoor (the youtuber even thinks the Samsung is brighter, but I don't agree with him). I think brightness measurements vary because of the different technology of the screens.
I think that just like people should stop saying that OLED is better, people here should also stop saying that miniled is better.
They each have some pros and cons.
For some people the brightness on something like the Tab S7+ is plenty (I, for one, have never used the full brightness, while I very often need to use it on my, much less bright, 2015 iPad pro, which has 430 nits of measured brightness) and not everybody can see PWM.
For some instead, it's a deal breaker. Just as the blooming can be a deal breaker for some.
As for durability, the burn in issue worries are mainly based on older devices... My 2017 Galaxy S7, which I used till the end of 2019 and still have it, has never developed any burn it... Some people here talk as if burn-is is guaranteed to happen within a couple of years.
And nobody can tell the longevity of this mini-led display... or any new display (my IPS 10.5 iPad developed a ugly white spot and it's far from being the only one, who could predict that?).
I am glad Apple is trying a new technology with great contrast, and at some point I'll probably buy it, if the benefits seem to be more than the drawbacks and no new issues appear, but I am also glad I don't need to be a early tester, having already an Amoled device for videos that is probably just as good (maybe slightly better in some aspects and slightly worse in others).

600 nits is only in apl18 ig