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OP is totally right, there was NO point in combining spaces with expose,
I can see both working together nicely if they'd just change some things:

Step 1: Get rid of this "full-screen-apps-need-a-dedicated-space" nonsense. It makes no sense why an app with no menu/title bar is so special it warrants its own corner of the universe. Let full screen apps mingle with other apps on the same space/desktop. FS Apps screw up dual monitors.

Step 2: If only using a single desktop, get rid of that redundant icon at the top. I'd rather use that wasted screen real estate for expose'.

I don't mind having both Spaces AND expose on one screen with just a swipe. Couldn't do that with Snow Leopard.

Stacking windows from the same app together? You surely have lost the plot Apple. I don't understand how such a stupid flaw can come into fruition.
Mountain Line now lets you "unstack" all windows now as an option. i.e., the old Expose' in SL is back.

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No one used Spaces but Geeks.
Look at the top of MC when you have no other spaces defined. There's a useless and silly-assed "space" right there showing you a miniature thumbnail of what you're already looking at below.

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I can see both working together nicely if they'd just change some things:

Step 1: Get rid of this "full-screen-apps-need-a-dedicated-space" nonsense. It makes no sense why an app with no menu/title bar is so special it warrants its own corner of the universe. Let full screen apps mingle with other apps on the same space/desktop. FS Apps screw up dual monitors.

Step 2: If only using a single desktop, get rid of that redundant icon at the top. I'd rather use that wasted screen real estate for expose'.

I don't mind having both Spaces AND expose on one screen with just a swipe. Couldn't do that with Snow Leopard.

Mountain Line now lets you "unstack" all windows now as an option. i.e., the old Expose' in SL is back.

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Look at the top of MC when you have no other spaces defined. There's a useless and silly-assed "space" right there showing you a miniature thumbnail of what you're already looking at below.

Welcome to Geekdom.

Now you see that would work, the problem is they show unnecessary things on the desktop. That would definitely help the situation.
 
I can see both working together nicely if they'd just change some things:

Step 1: Get rid of this "full-screen-apps-need-a-dedicated-space" nonsense. It makes no sense why an app with no menu/title bar is so special it warrants its own corner of the universe. Let full screen apps mingle with other apps on the same space/desktop. FS Apps screw up dual monitors.

I always thought that Apple should just disable and hide the Lion full screen button when extended displays are used. Instead, programs like Quicktime could use the old snow leopard full screen behaviour.
 
I always thought that Apple should just disable and hide the Lion full screen button when extended displays are used. Instead, programs like Quicktime could use the old snow leopard full screen behaviour.
That's a solution. But Apple didn't invent full screen apps. They've been around for years and co-existed quite nicely with other windows.
 
I hope I can explain this.

Back in SL, when I went to the Spaces view AND the all windows view..I could see all of my desktops in the all windows view. So if I had multiple desktops with multiple windows, I could see which was where etc and go to the proper desktop

Now with Launchpad, when I go to the "all windows" view, I see my desktops, but their in the standard view and windows behind other windows are not seen.

Id like to see all desktops in the "all windows" view when I go to launchpad.

Hope that was clear....Is this possible, anyone? Was this the same behavior on Lion?
 
Mountain Lion Fixes This

Despite the other bugs in Mountain Lion there is an option within the Mission Control Preferences removes the grouping feature.
 
Despite the other bugs in Mountain Lion there is an option within the Mission Control Preferences removes the grouping feature.
Indeed I am using it, but it doesn't work nearly as well as in SL. The way it groups is really inefficient and space wasting. I cannot get comparison screenshot but it seems to me it uses a different algorithm that works probably better with group windows but with single ones SL style would be better.
Anyway it is still all smaller if it at least would work with all the same features.


I wondered what is the point of a dashboard space but people here are right. It only is there so the some users figure out that it exists in the first place, not because it makes any sense usability wise.
 
I hope I can explain this.

Back in SL, when I went to the Spaces view AND the all windows view..I could see all of my desktops in the all windows view. So if I had multiple desktops with multiple windows, I could see which was where etc and go to the proper desktop

Now with Launchpad, when I go to the "all windows" view, I see my desktops, but their in the standard view and windows behind other windows are not seen.

Id like to see all desktops in the "all windows" view when I go to launchpad.

Hope that was clear....Is this possible, anyone? Was this the same behavior on Lion?

Launchpad?? I presume you mean Mission Control?
 
Sometimes when I use MC it doesn't show spaces/desktops, anyone else ever had this issue?

Crazy glare, I know.
 

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Sometimes when I use MC it doesn't show spaces/desktops, anyone else ever had this issue?
That occasional quirk has been there since Lion. I've seen it but could never replicate it.

And yes, it's kind of silly to have that lone redundant thumbnail up top when it's your only desktop.
 
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