Monitor for new Macbook 16" M1 Max

[Amethyst1]

It was the 163 PPI that was putting me off on the LG one you mentioned above... Am I overthinking the PPI issue?!

I have a 163 ppi screen that I use scaled and while I can see the slight blurriness compared to my 220 ppi screens at “best for Retina”, it’s not bad enough to be annoying IMO. Everyone is different in this regard though — some can’t stand scaled modes.

The thing is — 110 ppi was (somewhat) fine for non-Retina screens until subpixel rendering was removed. Now, a screen with a PPI/resolution high enough to get the HiDPI modes is pretty much required for bearable font rendering. For an ultrawide, since there’s no ideal 220 ppi option yet, 164 ppi is as good as it gets right now.

 

[james948]

FYI I got the Mateview and it's actually very nice.

 

[Jinjin]

Does it have to be 2 TB or can it be one TB plus one DP? If so, the LG 34WK95 has that and PbP.

Probably my lack of understanding showing but does it do DP via usb-c?

Would love to have power delivery but even with that Samsung, one of the two TB ports is only 15w

 

[alFR]

Yet another person here having the same dilemma... I need something in the 27"+ range with USB-C & power delivery, ideally retina resolution (so 5K+) with accurate colours (ideally supporting 95%+ P3). Don't really need HDR but would take it if I could get it for future-proofing if nothing else. Alternatives I've looked at are:

• 27" LG Ultrafine 5K: seems to be discontinued in the UK (still listed on the LG site but no "where to buy" links, Apple don't sell it any more), 6yo as well yet seems to still have quite a few bugs.
• Dell U2720Q: 4k so would be scaled to 1440p, not HDR, Dell say delivery January (although in stock with a few resellers on Amazon).
• HP Z27xs G3: 4k so would be scaled to 1440p, not HDR but good colour reproduction, has never been in stock anywhere in the UK since it was released as far as I can tell.
• Pro Display XDR: meets all requirements but ££££

There are a couple of others I've looked at like the Dell UP2720Q and the Asus ProArt range, but any of the miniLED ProArts are getting up into XDR territory price-wise and the non-HDR ones are all out of stock everywhere that I've looked as well, plus they're 4K so scaled. You really wouldn't think this would be so hard, would you?

 

[mrdogcat]

So I think I'm going to go with the LG 34WK95U. I'm really sold on having an ultrawide as it will help with productivity and video editing/creation.

Does anyone have any experience with this on the new MacBook Pros? Any issues other than you can't control the volume or brightness via the keyboard? Is the text nice and sharp etc?

Does anyone have any others they want to throw in at the last minute?

 

[solitone]

It was this article that got me obsessed with PPI: https://bjango.com/articles/macexternaldisplays/

It also confused me—https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/optimal-pixel-density-for-external-display.2323255/

 

[mario0]

I've narrowed it down to the below (this display is mainly for design and video creation):

DELL
U3421WE @ 109ppi - £860

LG
34GN850 @ 110ppi - £960 (is the extra expense worth it for what I'm using it for over the others?)
38WK95C-W @110.93ppi - £938
38GN950-B @ 111ppi - £864
35WN73A-B @ 107ppi - £500
34WN80C-B @ 110ppi - £560

None of them... I would take the LG 34WK95U. The 5K2K resolution is a big benefit even for every day usage. Colors and sharpness is great. I would say it's the best bang for the buck.

 

[ShiniestofShinies]

FYI I got the Mateview and it's actually very nice.

How do you find text rendering on the Mateview? Im looking for a monitor and will mainly use it for coding / word processing etc.

 

[Amethyst1]

How do you find text rendering on the Mateview? Im looking for a monitor and will mainly use it for coding / word processing etc.

I also have a MateView and use it scaled at "Looks like 2560×1707" to get the same PPI as my 27" 5K monitor running at pixel-perfect 2560×1440 HiDPI. While I can see a slight blurriness compared to the 5K monitor (they are right next to each other), it's still awesome and the additional vertical screen estate (plus 18.5 percent) over 2560×1440 is very noticeable and very welcome. I mainly use it for coding and word processing too. I'd definitely recommend it. I'm actually considering picking up a second right now.

 

[imax05]

I also have a MateView and use it scaled at "Looks like 2560×1707" to get the same PPI as my 27" 5K monitor running at pixel-perfect 2560×1440 HiDPI. While I can see a slight blurriness compared to the 5K monitor (they are right next to each other), it's still awesome and the additional vertical screen estate (plus 18.5 percent) over 2560×1440 is very noticeable and very welcome. I mainly use it for coding and word processing too. I'd definitely recommend it. I'm actually considering picking up a second right now.

how is the image quality? i read many review that say that the brightness of the panel is not very uniform, is this very noticeable?

 

[Amethyst1]

i read many review that say that the brightness of the panel is not very uniform, is this very noticeable?

Not to me.

 

[imax05]

Not to me.

thank you!
if I'd like to buy two monitor, Can I connect one to thunderbolt 4 (as usbc) (new mbp 16) and another via usb.c to the other monitor? tnx

 

[Amethyst1]

Can I connect one to thunderbolt 4 (as usbc) (new mbp 16) and another via usb.c to the other monitor? tnx

You mean daisy-chaining the second monitor to the first monitor?
No, for two reasons:
1. The MateView doesn't have an output (i.e. internal MST hub) to daisy-chain another monitor to.
2. macOS doesn't support daisy-chaining via MST. So even if (1) were true, it wouldn't work.

 

[imax05]

You mean daisy-chaining the second monitor to the first monitor?
No, for two reasons:
1. The MateView doesn't have an output (i.e. internal MST hub) to daisy-chain another monitor to.
2. macOS doesn't support daisy-chaining via MST. So even if (1) were true, it wouldn't work.

so i could connect two monitors to a thunderbolt 3/4 dock connected to the mbp i guess?

 

[Amethyst1]

so i could connect two monitors to a thunderbolt 3/4 dock connected to the mbp i guess?

Yes, a Thunderbolt 3/4 port carries two discrete DisplayPort signals that can be extracted by a dock or dual-link SST monitor such as the LG UltraFine 5K.

 

[imax05]

Yes, a Thunderbolt 3/4 port carries two discrete DisplayPort signals that can be extracted by a dock or dual-link SST monitor such as the LG UltraFine 5K.

Thank u!

 

[ekwipt]

U3421WE

 

[Jinjin]

I was after an ultra wide to use picture by picture with two macs. Though not a monitor with 2 TB inputs I just received the LG ergo 34WP88C.

Not going to be used for gaming or any intensive graphics work so will be good to see it in action. Been pretty much impossible to find in the UK until recently where it popped up at one online retailer

 

[jtopp]

Yes, a Thunderbolt 3/4 port carries two discrete DisplayPort signals that can be extracted by a dock or dual-link SST monitor such as the LG UltraFine 5K.

I love the LG 5k. But that being said it died two weeks ago a couple months out of warranty so I sent it to them for a $150 service fee. No video but active charging and I hear its a common issue, so if you buy any LG one make sure you get the extended warranty.

 

[Grolubao]

I also have a MateView and use it scaled at "Looks like 2560×1707" to get the same PPI as my 27" 5K monitor running at pixel-perfect 2560×1440 HiDPI. While I can see a slight blurriness compared to the 5K monitor (they are right next to each other), it's still awesome and the additional vertical screen estate (plus 18.5 percent) over 2560×1440 is very noticeable and very welcome. I mainly use it for coding and word processing too. I'd definitely recommend it. I'm actually considering picking up a second right now.

Is it able to charge the new Macbook Pros without losing charge?

 

[Amethyst1]

Is it able to charge the new Macbook Pros without losing charge?

It provides 65W. Is that enough for the new MBPs?

 

[StuartC]

It provides 65W. Is that enough for the new MBPs?

Depends which one, don’t think that is enough for the new 16 inch mbp.

 

[james948]

how is the image quality? i read many review that say that the brightness of the panel is not very uniform, is this very noticeable?

My Mateview is great. Haven’t noticed any uniformity problems.

 

[james948]

It provides 65W. Is that enough for the new MBPs?

I’m going through a caldigit so don’t use pass through

 

[antibolo]

I've been shopping for an external display for my M1 MBA lately, and very few things lately have made me as angry as this. There is literally NO monitor on the market with an appropriate ~220 DPI pixel density for macOS! How goddamn infuriating is this... And no, I don't want a non-integer scale, it looks terrible, and I can't believe people actually accept it.

I'm actually considering getting a 32 inch 4K display and running it at full non-scaled resolution, since there is no acceptable "retina" solution out there. But my current desk has only so much space, so this might be a bad idea too. And any less than 4K is unacceptable, coming from a iMac 5K I bought six(!!) years ago that I'm currently retiring.

WHY CAN'T APPLE JUST RELEASE A STANDALONE CONSUMER DISPLAY

Or failing that, Apple REALLY needs to change the way macOS handles high resolutions to be more flexible. Maybe it made sense back when they released their first MacBook Pros with "retina" screens with the expectation that ~220 DPI would become an industry standard, but fast forward to today and the industry still hasn't caught up to it (mostly because of Windows sucking at high density), so macOS is just ill-suited for any 3rd party display now because they all fall between the 110-220 range, which is absolutely ridiculous.