Moto 360

[jasonklee]

He has an excellent point. How consumers and the press overlook that monster bezel but talk endlessly about the tiny flat tire of the moto is beyond me.

I don't find that gentleman's point excellent nor even substantiated. I think I understand the industrial design group's intentions behind the Apple Watch's bezel but I don't find them particularly offensive. It appears that where the display ends the bezel begins to curve downward, which lends to its size from a top-down perspective. But, again, I haven't found them to be an impediment in any way. On the other hand, I do find the Moto 360's display to be irksome because that black "shelf" turns what would be an otherwise round display into a clamshell or flat tire or whatever the nomenclature is. Despite the size of the bezels on the Apple Watch, they don't interfere with the shape of the display.

Motorola can justify their decision by citing display-to-body ratio but I'm sure they're working on eliminating the shelf in future iterations while Apple, I think, will keep the bezel size, monster or not, on their watch for easier swipe gestures and aesthetics.

 

[Achillias]

Best looking smartwatch.

 

[Achillias]

This or Applewatch. No contest Moto 360 looks great. If Apple would've come with this design the fanboys and press would not stop talking about it.

 

[Rogifan]

Yeah best looking if all your using it for is telling time and trying to pass it off as a traditional watch. Before Watch I haven't worn a watch on my wrist in almost 5 years. So for me it doesn't really matter if a smartwatch looks just like a mechanical watch.

 

[Rogifan]

Apple's bezel are awful. They hide them well, but as soon as you run a color or white app you realize just how much bezel is there. It's not as bad as the pebble, but it's in the same league of ugliness. ANY apple watch owner who says anything about moto's flat tire lost all credibility as soon as they bought their watch.

I hardly ever noticed the bezels. Probably because 95% of my interactions feature a black background.

 

[Fernandez21]

I prefer the round display, my apple watch kinda looks like an old casio. I hope next they come out with a round version. And supposedly Apple has figured out how to put a light sensor behind the display which means we could keep that feature without the flat tire, which I never had any problems with on my Moto 360.

 

[spinedoc77]

I don't find that gentleman's point excellent nor even substantiated. I think I understand the industrial design group's intentions behind the Apple Watch's bezel but I don't find them particularly offensive. It appears that where the display ends the bezel begins to curve downward, which lends to its size from a top-down perspective. But, again, I haven't found them to be an impediment in any way. On the other hand, I do find the Moto 360's display to be irksome because that black "shelf" turns what would be an otherwise round display into a clamshell or flat tire or whatever the nomenclature is. Despite the size of the bezels on the Apple Watch, they don't interfere with the shape of the display.

Motorola can justify their decision by citing display-to-body ratio but I'm sure they're working on eliminating the shelf in future iterations while Apple, I think, will keep the bezel size, monster or not, on their watch for easier swipe gestures and aesthetics.

I find the opposite, the apple watch has the irksome display, that's putting it lightly, in reality the correct phrase is "butt ugly". I don't believe there was any design intention, basically they couldn't make it look good and have decent battery life. They had to settle with that ridiculously huge bezel.

On the other hand the flat tire on the 360 is really really small and I find it impossible to compare it to the apple watch bezel. IN the time I owned a 360 I don't think I looked it more than 4 or 5 times, it just didn't matter to me, it's just not that big of a deal to me. Would I rather look at a large bezel? A fake divers ring? A huge black ugly bezel? Nah, I'll take the flat tire any day of the week versus what else is out there.

 

[jasonklee]

Yeah best looking if all your using it for is telling time and trying to pass it off as a traditional watch.

But would a round display feature complications as nicely as the Apple Watch does?

 

[kdarling]

No offense, but you are embarrassing yourself with this disingenuous and hyperbolic refrain.

No offense taken, since my comment was accurate.

 

[jasonklee]

No offense taken, since my comment was accurate.

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No, you are mistaken as I was not referring to that part of your argument but the first part of your sentence (Apple being absolved of bezel sin, while Moto 360 must endure potshots). I apologize if I wasn't emphatic enough.

But I'm afraid you've exposed yourself here.

Per your earlier post, I do not believe in the logical fallacy in your argument in which you create a fictive world where if competitors had used Apple's watch display and Apple had instead used Moto 360's display, that Apple would nevertheless reap the praise and distinction for being innovative.

Sir, that you would insinuate in your mind that the general Apple-using public would reflexively bestow any reverence to Apple out of some fanatical whim, is a rather quite telling on your part. I don't see any evidence to support anything remotely resembling your corruption of the reality here. I suggest you take a moment to reflect on your appalling ideation and the subtext contained within.

While I'm entirely committed to discourse and seeing where those conversations lead and I can always count on certain MacRumors members to provide meaningful and insightful commentary, the fact that you are willing to manufacture a fictive premise in order to prove your argument means that it's pointless to further engage with you on any intellectually honest level.

Good night, sir.

 

[kdarling]

Per your earlier post, I do not believe in the logical fallacy in your argument in which you create a fictive world where if competitors had used Apple's watch display and Apple had instead used Moto 360's display, that Apple would nevertheless reap the praise and distinction for being innovative.

I didn't say Moto's display. I said a round display, and I stand by my comment. Do you seriously claim that if Apple had come out with a round watch, that it would not sell just as well (if not better) than the current rectangular version?

Sir, that you would insinuate in your mind that the general Apple-using public would reflexively bestow any reverence to Apple out of some fanatical whim, is a rather quite telling on your part. I don't see any evidence to support anything remotely resembling your corruption of the reality here. I suggest you take a moment to reflect on your appalling ideation and the subtext contained within.

The evidence is all around you, my friend. You're in an Apple fan forum, with years of history to easily search back on.

I have to go to bed, so I'm just going to link to the results of a single search and let you search more if you wish:

Apple's iWatch Said to Feature Round Design - MacRumors (May 2014)

The responses in the forum were very positive about the idea, with comments like:

"Thank, God!"
"I hope they stick with a round design."
"I definitely think round is the right way to go..."
"This makes complete sense. Apple's design aesthetic has shifted sharply to circle-based rather than square-based over the last two years."

There were also some rather prophetic comments like:

"Apple has a trademark on rectangles with rounded corners, right? I'd expect that."

And my own: "I'd like to see someone make the bezel a rotatable control, so you can more quickly zip between section choices. Just turn it to flip between cards. Sometimes a physical knob just makes more sense than being all-touch, and/or using tiny buttons."

In short, yes absolutely we KNOW FOR A FACT from threads like that one, that many Apple fans would've backed a round watch.

Cheers!

 

[mrex]

so disappointed that it has a flat tire again...

 

[kdarling]

so disappointed that it has a flat tire again...

They claim it's the only way to get such a thin bezel. Apparently they're right, at least for now.

 

[spinedoc77]

I didn't say Moto's display. I said a round display, and I stand by my comment. Do you seriously claim that if Apple had come out with a round watch, that it would not sell just as well (if not better) than the current rectangular version?



The evidence is all around you, my friend. You're in an Apple fan forum, with years of history to easily search back on.

I have to go to bed, so I'm just going to link to the results of a single search and let you search more if you wish:

Apple's iWatch Said to Feature Round Design - MacRumors (May 2014)

The responses in the forum were very positive about the idea, with comments like:

"Thank, God!"
"I hope they stick with a round design."
"I definitely think round is the right way to go..."
"This makes complete sense. Apple's design aesthetic has shifted sharply to circle-based rather than square-based over the last two years."

There were also some rather prophetic comments like:

"Apple has a trademark on rectangles with rounded corners, right? I'd expect that."

And my own: "I'd like to see someone make the bezel a rotatable control, so you can more quickly zip between section choices. Just turn it to flip between cards. Sometimes a physical knob just makes more sense than being all-touch, and/or using tiny buttons."

In short, yes absolutely we KNOW FOR A FACT from threads like that one, that many Apple fans would've backed a round watch.

Cheers!

I don't think that guy lives in reality.

 

[epicrayban]

Now that I've researched some more, Samsung's S2 is going to overshadow the Moto 360 quite a bit. The Moto 360 almost feels boring by comparison.

 

[iphonedude2008]

Now that I've researched some more, Samsung's S2 is going to overshadow the Moto 360 quite a bit. The Moto 360 almost feels boring by comparison.

except it doesnt run android wear so it misses out on android wear apps

 

[msavic]

except it doesnt run android wear so it misses out on android wear apps

Android Wear isn't exactly the most robust platform at the moment, there are plenty of stupid limitations put in place by Google and it frankly isn't hard for Samsung to provide vastly more functionality out of the S2 than any other competing Android Wear watch.

 

[Technarchy]

Now that I've researched some more, Samsung's S2 is going to overshadow the Moto 360 quite a bit. The Moto 360 almost feels boring by comparison.

I have to say, I completely agree. Not that I think the 360 is a bad product, but I find absolutely nothing interesting or exciting about it either. I don't think the current model looks all that great on the wrist either when I come across it in public.

My reaction is mostly blah, and meh. And that anomaly at the bottom of the display would drive me nuts.

And yeah, the Gear S2 will probably be the most visible and followed Apple Watch competitor going into the holiday season.

 

[soulreaver99]

Any current Moto 360 2014 owners upgrading to the new version? I really can't justify spending $400+ for this new watch as the first gen watch works just fine...

 

[diamond.g]

Any current Moto 360 2014 owners upgrading to the new version? I really can't justify spending $400+ for this new watch as the first gen watch works just fine...

I don't plan on it. Just like I plan on skipping this generation of mobile devices.

 

[lyunmac]

Any current Moto 360 2014 owners upgrading to the new version? I really can't justify spending $400+ for this new watch as the first gen watch works just fine...

I'm thinking of keeping my moto 360 and get the new Samsung watch. Interface looks great and seems to have more features.

 

[DeathChill]

I'm thinking of keeping my moto 360 and get the new Samsung watch. Interface looks great and seems to have more features.

That's kind of a neat idea about smartwatches. You can own multiple different ones and swap them out as you please like you do with regular watches.

 

[Rogifan]

To be honest I think the Gear S2 looks the most blah out of all the round smartwatches. But because it has the rotating bezel and Samsung's marketing budget it will get the most attention.

 

[anthonymoody]

I pre-ordered the Huawei Watch because:

-it's round
-it doesn't have a flat tire

I'm an Apple guy through and through, but not this round.