Even more phablets 
Very few quality midsize and small phones these days
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Right?Even more phablets
Very few quality midsize and small phones these days
This is getting really annoying. I don't want a phablet. I don't want a huge phone. Why couldn't they keep the 5 inch screen in the G4 and make the Plus the bigger one with a 5.5 inch screen?
Thanks. Not bad prices at all, just wish they offered a 5" model too.
[doublepost=1463497808][/doublepost]Actually there is a Moto G 5" ....
Moto G Play
- 5” 720p HD display
- 1.2GHz quad-core processor
- 16GB of internal storage
- Option of 1GB RAM with NFC or 2GB RAM with no NFC
- 8 megapixel rear camera
- 5 megapixel wide angle front facing camera
- 2,800mAh battery
- MicroSD card slot supporting cards up to 128GB.
- Splashproof
- Can be personalised with replaceable shells
Strange Ram options ???? Available from clove.co.uk in June https://www.clove.co.uk/motorola-moto-g-play
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Even more phablets
Very few quality midsize and small phones these days
On the contrary, there are very few big phones at this price. For a big phone you have to pay up at least $499. Until now.
Isn't that just the same as the Moto G3 (renamed 2015 Moto G)? Same screen, same processor, slightly bigger battery. Don't really see where the upgrade is.
Again, wow. Big screen, fingerprint scanner, seemingly great camera, £199? This fits pretty much all my needs fo a phone, except for the build. And for the US, I'd probably predict $199 and $249 for the G4 and G4 Plus, respectively.
Yeah...save for the CPU and unknown quality of the display, these specs are right in line with the iPhones---for a hell of a lot less money. Same (though a bit of a lesser degree) goes for comparison to flagship Android phones.
I prefer iOS and can afford to shell out more for it if I choose to but that's a pretty dramatic difference in price any way to slice it.
you do have a point, except for oneplus and the other chinese manufacturers
the 5" market has nexus 5x, and galaxy s7 regular, they were probably afraid to compete with the 5x I agree
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most exciting thing about this release for me is an affordable carrier agnostic phone, the xt1607 would be the cheapest phone ever? that works on att, tmobile, verizon, and sprint. (hopefully the band 12 shenanigans are sorted out this time) That is great!
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So apparently, the Moto G4 Plus has a camera sensor as good as the 6S, has at least the same amount of ram or more (up to 4GB possible), and offers Moto features. Why would someone want to buy an iPhone if they have zero ties to the ecosystem, have an iOS preference, don't need Apple's Customer Service, and are completely agnostic? (Trying to weed out the iOS excuses here.)
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Possible wifi calling on the Moto G Play.
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Possible wifi calling on the Moto G Play.
I doubt the snapdragon 627 or the camera sensor will be anywhere near as good as those in the 6S/+ even if spec sheets make it look equivalent. We should have learned about devices and sum of their parts for a long time now.
Why someone chooses one device over another is personal, why would anyone choose anything else including the HTC 10 / S7 / Lg G5 and why even the Moto X if the new Moto G is great value for money ?
The answer is simple, because specs numbers don't tell whole stories, and people have preferences which extend to more than internal specs.
Value is always subjective when it comes to premium devices and user choices and purchasing decisions.
iOS is easily adaptable. I know people who buy an iPhone for the first time and get used to the features very quickly. Even I, who was very techy and knew lots about Android when I got my first Android phone, took a few days to get used to the ecosystem. Also, take some of the neat tips and tricks of iOS and you've got yourself a very smooth OS.
And also, build. Light years better on the iPhone. Something I would get it for.
I must say every year I'm seeing less and less reason to buy another flagship. For a phone, having a 5 inch FHD screen, 2/3GB RAM, 3000 battery, 13Mpx camera with FHD or 4K video recording, microSD, quick charge, 5Mpx front facing camera, a decent processor, 4G and Android is more than enough.
What more would we need? Waterproof? Fingerprint sensor? Not much more.
These specs are getting cheaper and cheaper every year, so in a couple of years we will get the S7 specs for less than 300$. It's amazing. There would be no more need to buy 700$ phones, which in the end can do the same as a midrange phone, if both have the same Android OS.
Only concern would be that Android software gets even more demanding than now, and would require more powerful processors and RAM, but then again, Android already does almost everything one would need on a phone.
After my S6 I'll probably buy a midrange, or maybe a flagship when price goes down. It's amazing that we can buy last year's flagships for less than 400$ right now.
What more would we need? Waterproof? Fingerprint sensor? Not much more.
These specs are getting cheaper and cheaper every year, so in a couple of years we will get the S7 specs for less than 300$. It's amazing. There would be no more need to buy 700$ phones, which in the end can do the same as a midrange phone, if both have the same Android OS.
Only concern would be that Android software gets even more demanding than now, and would require more powerful processors and RAM, but then again, Android already does almost everything one would need on a phone.
After my S6 I'll probably buy a midrange, or maybe a flagship when price goes down. It's amazing that we can buy last year's flagships for less than 400$ right now.
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If you're an android person, there is definitely less incentive to buy a tier 1 Android device. Samsung, HTC, et al just don't deliver to the same extent for the price.
The N6P is a great "1.5 tier" option, and a number of these type devices are just so great. Don't get me wrong, the N6P is probably not as premium on the hardware end as the flagships, but the software is top notch.
Only issues are getting burned with Moto's customer service and lack of warranty support. I still think if you wait about 4-6 months, you can get a Nexus for a great price. The $430 price dropped like a rock to $199 in like March with the Project Fi stuff.
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What do you mean not as premium? Like they skimped out on OIS w/ shoddy EIS? Or how the phone's paint chips on the black model? Or how the back hump is quite large? Outside of that, the 6P is a great device.
Nailed it. It's a tier 1.5. It's not as expensive as the flagships, but most of the stuff you're complaining about is easily avoidable or not bothersome. It's not quite the uber-premium flagship, but it's pretty good.
Made a mistake on my previous post. Yes, I'm back on my S6 after having the 6S+ for a week. Very happy with it. Only things I miss are better battery and microSD slot.
That's true. Midrange phones don't get much support, if any. Huawei phones for example, like the P8/P9 lite, will probably only get one big Android update. That's the major downside IMO, but if you think about it, after the first big Android update, almost all flagships get their second big Android update almost a year later after release. The S6 probably won't get Android N until January or further, and by then most of us will have changed to another phone, so in the end we only keep a flagship until the first big Android update is released. After that we'll probably upgrade to another phone.
I'm finding myself with every passing year needing less and less high-end specs. I don't see what more would I need than my S6 already offers: QHD screen, fingerprint sensor, 16 Mpx camera with 4K video recording and OIS, quick charge, 3GB RAM, great build quality, Android M, etc.
So instead of looking to the new flagships I'm starting to look at the new midrange phones, cause I don't really need more power than the S6 already offers. What I would like is, whenever I need to change my phone, to have the S6 specs on a midrange phone with midrange price, plus having microSD and bigger battery (the P9 lite and other midrange phones already have both).
It's gonna be great when the time comes when I can buy a new phone with similar specs to my S6 for less than 300$. When that time comes I won't look at flagships anymore. But yeah, long-term support and updates will be almost non-existent, but like I previously said, Android M already does 99% of what I need. There's also the possibility of buying a 5X 32GB next year for less than 200$!! How amazing is that? You can decide whether to buy that to have more updates or buy another midrange phone with better hardware for the same price and just one update with luck.
I was looking more into the Moto G4 Play since that is actually going to be available in the States and thought it could replace the Moto E 2nd gen from last year. I believe even with WP which is less preferable to Android, Microsoft Lumia 640 is still the best smartphone under the $50 range. G4 Play could be like Moto E 4G and can retail at $150 at first before dropping to $50-$80 in by October. Then perhaps a $9.99 Black Friday sale before hovering back to the $30-$50 which happened to the Verizon Moto E 4G.
G4 Play has 2 GB RAM with a beefier 2800 mAh that Lumia doesn't have. But I don't regret getting the AT&T $30 Moto E 4G even if Lenovo/Motorola kill off that E product line. I prefer the Moto E's "4.5 and height although I wished it was slimmer and lighter. I already have a phone with huge bezels with the same height as G Play. I prefer having phones with different sizes. Still, for under $100 before the end of the year, Moto G4 Play should be the best food stamp phone of 2016.
Just wished these OEMs stopped making bigger and bigger phones when the screen is only 5 inches! Moto G was supposed to be a budget phone, but like others, they increase the size as well as price. And hope the camera on the G4 Play isn't as awful as the Moto E (2015). Lumia 640 was released around same time and it surprised me with its photo quality. It has early 2013-ish flagship optics. While the Moto E 4G has optics from the iPhone 3Gs era or earlier. The regular Moto G4 looks like a Nexus 4 to me.
G4 Play has 2 GB RAM with a beefier 2800 mAh that Lumia doesn't have. But I don't regret getting the AT&T $30 Moto E 4G even if Lenovo/Motorola kill off that E product line. I prefer the Moto E's "4.5 and height although I wished it was slimmer and lighter. I already have a phone with huge bezels with the same height as G Play. I prefer having phones with different sizes. Still, for under $100 before the end of the year, Moto G4 Play should be the best food stamp phone of 2016.
Just wished these OEMs stopped making bigger and bigger phones when the screen is only 5 inches! Moto G was supposed to be a budget phone, but like others, they increase the size as well as price. And hope the camera on the G4 Play isn't as awful as the Moto E (2015). Lumia 640 was released around same time and it surprised me with its photo quality. It has early 2013-ish flagship optics. While the Moto E 4G has optics from the iPhone 3Gs era or earlier. The regular Moto G4 looks like a Nexus 4 to me.
I see the g4 play as the successor to the Moto e 2nd gen too
Reddit seems to worry that the 600 series snapdragon can't handle the 1080p screens on the other models. Apparently there isn't much gain compared to the Moto x play which has many complaints
I don't know if we've seen the 410 in the g4 play push 720p either though
Reddit seems to worry that the 600 series snapdragon can't handle the 1080p screens on the other models. Apparently there isn't much gain compared to the Moto x play which has many complaints
I don't know if we've seen the 410 in the g4 play push 720p either though
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Remember this is DxO !!! Remember z5 topping. Remember HTC 10 with its then (when tested) 'very' buggy software getting the equal top score.
Don't go putting too much faith in DxO score, they should be take with a massive shovel of salt.
The Verge posted an article a couple of weeks ago about DxO and the glaring discrepancies that are appearing between their 'score' and actual real world experience.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/29/11535102/smartphone-mobile-benchmarks-dxomark-score-test
Moto just needs to ensure this and they'd have another winner:
camera is comparable to Samsung's/Lg's/Apple's
camera is comparable to Samsung's/Lg's/Apple's