Phones Moto X vs Nexus 5

[mKTank]

Lol yea Moto X owners why can't we just admit already that we bought terrible phones and WilliamBateman's Note 3 is the best phone on the planet?

I don't have to prove a single thing to you (even though I did, and even though you accidentally agreed with me). All I know is that my phone is the best phone out there for me for its screen size and maybe, just maybe, I didn't want a 5.7" creaky plastic slab. Your little crusade of running around telling us how much our pure Android phones suck, while denying all proof you're given to the contrary, is frankly a bit sad. You're telling us that we're getting paid by Motorola to defend them (big surprise that we own their phones), but I can't help but notice that you're the one running into threads that have nothing to do with your phone, desperately trying to mend whatever reputation you think it lost.

You sent your Moto X back, now stop running around desperately spreading misinformation. Every single review and owner out there disagrees with you (aside from Anandtech who weren't running KitKat), so that should give you the hint that you're probably wrong. Furthermore, this thread has nothing to do with the Note 3 so I can't see why you keep obsessively bringing it up.

Full respect to your opinions, but pure Android phone owners bought their phones for a reason so frankly you're not convincing anyone here.

 

[JC17]

I don't have to prove a single thing to you (even though I did, and even though you accidentally agreed with me).

To be fair you haven't proven you can get 8 hours SoT and I haven't been able to find anyone else getting this 'performance' either. You've made a claim so really you should prove it.

 

[mKTank]

Well clearly I'm not going to use my phones for 8 hours straight just to prove a point. I showed a picture of my usage after one hour and the battery was at 90. You can use your powers of extrapolation to figure out the rest. If that's not proof enough, then that's too bad because I honestly don't care who does or doesn't believe me. I'm here to talk phones, not to fight against buyer's remorse like a lot of people here seem to be doing.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Every single review and owner out there disagrees with you (aside from Anandtech who weren't running KitKat)

To be fair, Anandtech really liked the Moto X. Their review of the Nexus 5 showed that the Moto X has a very good, above average battery. The point to draw from their review is not that the Moto X battery was poor, but that the Nexus 5 battery is much much better than had previously been claimed. They were the only ones who actually provided numbers.

My feeling is that josh Topolsky at the Verge got inconsistent battery life in his very early review and a lot of other reviews were biased by this and ran with it...

 

[mKTank]

To be fair, Anandtech really liked the Moto X. Their review of the Nexus 5 showed that the Moto X has a very good, above average battery. The point to draw from their review is not that the Moto X battery was poor, but that the Nexus 5 battery is much much better than had previously been claimed. They were the only ones who actually provided numbers.

My feeling is that josh Topolsky at the Verge got inconsistent battery life in his very early review and a lot of other reviews were biased by this and ran with it...

Yeah the Nexus 5 was treated unfairly. I guess everyone just wanted to find a problem with it to complain about. But facts are facts, and the Nexus 5 on KitKat has a pretty awesome battery, as does the Moto X.

Just took a picture:

7.6 hours can be extrapolated from that, and it's less than 8 hours because I was using LTE on 1 bar for a good chunk of that time because my router was updating. Backs up my previous image just fine.

 

[WilliamBateman]

Yeah the Nexus 5 was treated unfairly. I guess everyone just wanted to find a problem with it to complain about. But facts are facts, and the Nexus 5 on KitKat has a pretty awesome battery, as does the Moto X.

Just took a picture:
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7.6 hours can be extrapolated from that, and it's less than 8 hours because I was using LTE on 1 bar for a good chunk of that time because my router was updating. Backs up my previous image just fine.

Well that's pretty impressive. I'm lucky to get over 2 hours of screen with the Moto X. Maybe I have things running that shouldn't be. I know my location services are on but set to battery saver mode. At any rate, I'm sick of babysitting phones and trying to figure out what's running and what's not, a big reason I bought a Note and an even bigger reason I bought another iPhone. No babysitting required, it just knows when to use location services and I don't have to close out apps the second I'm done using them.

 

[mKTank]

Well that's pretty impressive. I'm lucky to get over 2 hours of screen with the Moto X. Maybe I have things running that shouldn't be. I know my location services are on but set to battery saver mode. At any rate, I'm sick of babysitting phones and trying to figure out what's running and what's not, a big reason I bought a Note and an even bigger reason I bought another iPhone. No babysitting required, it just knows when to use location services and I don't have to close out apps the second I'm done using them.

Fair enough. That's one thing about pure Android in general sometimes that I have to say is a bit of a pain: configuring everything to make it as battery efficient as possible. iPhone requires much less tinkering and I'm pretty sure Samsung aimed for the same battery consistency with Touchwiz and it shows. I didn't really turn anything major off with my Moto X. Farthest I've gone is to make sure I always use dark themes and dark wallpapers if available, using less power with the AMOLED display. But I do close running apps frequently so that could be it.

All that said, I'm pretty sure my next phone will be a Note 3 or perhaps the S5 if it comes out soon. Moto X is a bit too small for me I think and I don't have the best eyesight.

 

[Fernandez21]

Yeah the Nexus 5 was treated unfairly. I guess everyone just wanted to find a problem with it to complain about. But facts are facts, and the Nexus 5 on KitKat has a pretty awesome battery, as does the Moto X.

Just took a picture:
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7.6 hours can be extrapolated from that, and it's less than 8 hours because I was using LTE on 1 bar for a good chunk of that time because my router was updating. Backs up my previous image just fine.

How did you get the percentage to show up on the battery like that?

 

[Eternal 28]

How did you get the percentage to show up on the battery like that?

He most likely used Battery Percentage enabler for Kit Kat.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.kroegerama.android4batpercent&hl=en

 

[mKTank]

I actually used GravityBox with Xposed but that app looks really neat! Gonna try it out.

 

[F123D]

He most likely used Battery Percentage enabler for Kit Kat.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.kroegerama.android4batpercent&hl=en

Thanks. Just installed.

 

[kaielement]

Why don't you guys just be honest here? Are you being paid by Motorola? You can't have "moderate to heavy usage" when phone idle and cell standby are right there near the top of your list in battery. Where is Internet? Where is Facebook or Instagram or Netflix or any game? Just stop already

Notice phone idle and standby are only at 8% or less just saying

 

[WilliamBateman]

Fair enough. That's one thing about pure Android in general sometimes that I have to say is a bit of a pain: configuring everything to make it as battery efficient as possible. iPhone requires much less tinkering and I'm pretty sure Samsung aimed for the same battery consistency with Touchwiz and it shows. I didn't really turn anything major off with my Moto X. Farthest I've gone is to make sure I always use dark themes and dark wallpapers if available, using less power with the AMOLED display. But I do close running apps frequently so that could be it.

All that said, I'm pretty sure my next phone will be a Note 3 or perhaps the S5 if it comes out soon. Moto X is a bit too small for me I think and I don't have the best eyesight.

Now THIS is what I consider great battery life. Was on this for an hour and a half straight earlier today trying to see how much I could drain the battery after being off the charger since last night. Web browsing, Youtube app, Facebook, Instagram, texts and games...Granted, its not a 1080p or even 720p display but still, this is worlds better than what I got from the Moto X and it has a considerably smaller battery.

 

[mattopotamus]

This was yesterday with pretty light usage on the n5

 

[ipodlover77]

Oooh wee.

That low light performance on the moto x is pretty bad. Overall quality, taking in shutter speed, low light performance, etc etc.

5S>>Nexus 5>>>>Moto X

 

[mKTank]

Now THIS is what I consider great battery life. Was on this for an hour and a half straight earlier today trying to see how much I could drain the battery after being off the charger since last night. Web browsing, Youtube app, Facebook, Instagram, texts and games...Granted, its not a 1080p or even 720p display but still, this is worlds better than what I got from the Moto X and it has a considerably smaller battery.

My picture had near the same percentage but over 2 hours. Just saying. Nice standby time though!



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Oooh wee.

That low light performance on the moto x is pretty bad. Overall quality, taking in shutter speed, low light performance, etc etc.

5S>>Nexus 5>>>>Moto X

For camera.

 

[zbarvian]

This was yesterday with pretty light usage on the n5 Image
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That seems pretty bad, unless I'm mistaken. High brightness?

 

[appledes7]

This was yesterday with pretty light usage on the n5 Image
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That's normal and what I would typically get.

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For those using a Moto X, do you leave active display and touchless control on? Do you see an increase in battery life? If so, how significant?

 

[ipodlover77]

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For camera.

Correct! Shots outside aren't that bad but once you go indoors, meh. It gets ugly very quickly.

Overall, the phone is pretty nice though. Weight and proportions are great.

 

[mKTank]

That's normal and what I would typically get.

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For those using a Moto X, do you leave active display and touchless control on? Do you see an increase in battery life? If so, how significant?

Yep, left them on. The Moto X actually has 3 processors, two of which are super low power and handle the touchless control and such. And the screen is AMOLED so Active Notifications/Display takes very little power. I imagine turning them off wouldn't really change consumption by a whole lot.

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Correct! Shots outside aren't that bad but once you go indoors, meh. It gets ugly very quickly.

Overall, the phone is pretty nice though. Weight and proportions are great.

Yeah, the camera isn't something I'd think of bragging about with this phone.

 

[mattopotamus]

That seems pretty bad, unless I'm mistaken. High brightness?

That's actually pretty solid. I leave my brightness on auto. I just mostly wanted to point out it is super easy to get through a day. If I have heavy usage I still get around 18 hours and 4-5 hours SOT. That Screen Shot would have been about 2h 40m SOT and 30+ hours on the battery. I still had 58% battery in that pic.

 

[zbarvian]

That's actually pretty solid. I leave my brightness on auto. I just mostly wanted to point out it is super easy to get through a day. If I have heavy usage I still get around 18 hours and 4-5 hours SOT. That Screen Shot would have been about 2h 40m SOT and 30+ hours on the battery. I still had 58% battery in that pic.

Yeah 30 hours standby with 2h 40m of SOT seems pretty decent. I don't think I've seen anyone post 4-5 hrs of SOT in here, though, which makes me a little hesitant. In GSMArena's test they did about 4:40 of browsing whereas my iPhone 5 got over double that. I use internet on my phone and browse constantly, and I'm a pretty heavy user so I could never make do with less than half the runtime of my iPhone 5.

 

[mattopotamus]

Yeah 30 hours standby with 2h 40m of SOT seems pretty decent. I don't think I've seen anyone post 4-5 hrs of SOT in here, though, which makes me a little hesitant. In GSMArena's test they did about 4:40 of browsing whereas my iPhone 5 got over double that. I use internet on my phone and browse constantly, and I'm a pretty heavy user so I could never make do with less than half the runtime of my iPhone 5.

I think over 5 hours would be really hard to achieve on any phone. I have never seen anyone get more than 6ish hours of actual SOT on any smart phone. The note 3 hovers around that.

Are you looking at your usage time on the iphone? That is a lot different than SOT. I have never seen an iphone actually get any better SOT than the newer android phone. 8 hours SOT would be better than some tablets.

I did see a test on some sites where they said over 8 hours when browsing the internet, but I have never seen that mimic'd IRL. If anything, I only see people complain about their battery on the iphone 5. My GF is lucky to get through a day and she is a moderate user. When I had it, I usually ended the day with around 20-25% battery, which is actually worse than my n5

 

[zbarvian]

I think over 5 hours would be really hard to achieve on any phone. I have never seen anyone get more than 6ish hours of actual SOT on any smart phone. The note 3 hovers around that.

Are you looking at your usage time on the iphone? That is a lot different than SOT. I have never seen an iphone actually get any better SOT than the newer android phone. 8 hours SOT would be better than some tablets.

I did see a test on some sites where they said over 8 hours when browsing the internet, but I have never seen that mimic'd IRL. If anything, I only see people complain about their battery on the iphone 5. My GF is lucky to get through a day and she is a moderate user.

I know I'm not getting 9 hours of screen on time when browsing, but it's the fraction suggested by the benchmark that troubles me. 1/2 the amount of usage time isn't workable. Also, Usage is more than screen-on time, but it's mostly screen on time. Unless you're playing music, being navigated, or uploading/downloading files in the background, it's just screen on time. I get about 5 hours of screen on time with my iPhone, though my usage always say ~7.5 hours.

 

[mattopotamus]

I know I'm not getting 9 hours of screen on time when browsing, but it's the fraction suggested by the benchmark that troubles me. 1/2 the amount of usage time isn't workable. Also, Usage is more than screen-on time, but it's mostly screen on time. Unless you're playing music, being navigated, or uploading/downloading files in the background, it's just screen on time. I get about 5 hours of screen on time with my iPhone, though my usage always say ~7.5 hours.

Exactly . I think that is very feasible with the nexus 5...especially when on Wifi. All of the screen shots I posted were with less than 10% wifi time, so if you are on wifi a lot it would be even better.