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No such announcement. I’m not optimistic for iOS 13 either.

Interestingly, there is a Bluetooth mouse available from Citrix that works perfectly apparently... but only within Citrix’s own apps.
 
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No such announcement. I’m not optimistic for iOS 13 either.

Interestingly, there is a Bluetooth mouse available from Citrix that works perfectly apparently... but only within Citrix’s own apps.
The Citrix mouse also works with Jump Desktop remote desktop software for the iPad. Using it on any iPad (Pro or non) is an enjoyable user experience when connecting an iPad to a macOS device (or even Windows system).
 
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While I’d love to see it, and it would make the idea of using an iPad as a computer replacement that much closer, as I’ve always found the constant keyboard->touchscreen maneuver awkward. It’s part of why I prefer smaller, handheld-oriented iPads like the Mini over the larger models.

It’s not really a matter of “can they do it”, but rather they built an entire philosophy around having no crossover between mouse/trackpad support for one product category, and no touchscreen support on the other. It’s still kind of a shame.
 
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if it isnt system wide, dont bother to introduce it at all - there is no point then.

Of course there is, for use in productivity apps. I use an iPad as my main computer and it would be handy to us occasionally in productivity apps, but I don't see why you would need it system wide. I don't think Apple would go that route anyway.
 
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Of course there is, for use in productivity apps. I use an iPad as my main computer and it would be handy to us occasionally in productivity apps, but I don't see why you would need it system wide. I don't think Apple would go that route anyway.
I don't get it. Apple would be engineering a pointer overlay, but then have it disappear when using
'non-productivity' apps? Does it work in the ios pages?
 
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Of course there is, for use in productivity apps. I use an iPad as my main computer and it would be handy to us occasionally in productivity apps, but I don't see why you would need it system wide. I don't think Apple would go that route anyway.

i have been using a mouse with my Note tablet and using a keyboard to type letters. i dont understand why i should sometimes tap the screen while using a keyboard and the mouse. it is also almost ”impossible”, atleast cumbersome, when the tablet is standing as a display in front of you.

many times when i mirrored my tablet to the tv for example, it would also have been literally impossible to tap the tablet when the tablet wasnt in front of me but i was only having a keyboard on my lap and a mouse next to me.
 
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I don't get it. Apple would be engineering a pointer overlay, but then have it disappear when using
'non-productivity' apps? Does it work in the ios pages?

On my Android devices, with a Bluetooth mouse connected the cursor is always visible and acts the same as a mouse on a laptop, PC, etc. Works extremely well in all apps.
 
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I don't get it. Apple would be engineering a pointer overlay, but then have it disappear when using
'non-productivity' apps? Does it work in the ios pages?

Yea, something like that. It’ll need to disappear over games/media apps. Pages would be an app that it would function. I obviously don’t know and could be completely wrong, I don’t think we’ll ever see a mouse clicking on apps in the home screen. I just can’t see it.
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i have been using a mouse with my Note tablet and using a keyboard to type letters. i dont understand why i should sometimes tap the screen while using a keyboard and the mouse. it is also almost ”impossible”, atleast cumbersome, when the tablet is standing as a display in front of you.

many times when i mirrored my tablet to the tv for example, it would also have been literally impossible to tap the tablet when the tablet wasnt in front of me but i was only having a keyboard on my lap and a mouse next to me.

That’s fair, see above for my description. I just don’t see Apple ever doing it system wide.
 
On my Android devices, with a Bluetooth mouse connected the cursor is always visible and acts the same as a mouse on a laptop, PC, etc. Works extremely well in all apps.
When you say "cursor" are you referring to the mouse pointer or text cursor?
On my Android devices, the mouse pointer is only visible when I have a mouse attached to the system (either hardwired or bluetooth) *AND* the mouse is being moved. If I stop moving the mouse, the pointer is still visible but if I start typing or touch the screen the mouse pointer disappears.
 
When you say "cursor" are you referring to the mouse pointer or text cursor?
On my Android devices, the mouse pointer is only visible when I have a mouse attached to the system (either hardwired or bluetooth) *AND* the mouse is being moved. If I stop moving the mouse, the pointer is still visible but if I start typing or touch the screen the mouse pointer disappears.

Your description is correct - I was too imprecise in mine. I should have said pointer, not cursor, and your description of functionality matches what I see.
 
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I don’t think we’ll ever see a mouse clicking on apps in the home screen. I just can’t see it.
Doesn't require much imagination: this was essentially windows 8. Worked fine, although obviously there
were other issues. It's also likely ios apps are porting to MacOS soon; so you may be seeing pointer driven
apps on MacOS before ios.

Question: do you see a reason this couldn't work, or are you just expressing a preference
that it shouldn't work this way? Follow up: whats lost if all apps and home screen did work
with a mouse or track pad?
 
Doesn't require much imagination: this was essentially windows 8. Worked fine, although obviously there
were other issues. It's also likely ios apps are porting to MacOS soon; so you may be seeing pointer driven
apps on MacOS before ios.

Question: do you see a reason this couldn't work, or are you just expressing a preference
that it shouldn't work this way? Follow up: whats lost if all apps and home screen did work
with a mouse or track pad?

It's not that it can't be done or that it would be a challenge to do, I just don't think Apple will do it. I can't see a pointer on the home screen.
 
I use Citrix Workspace daily and had to source an X1 Mouse from abroad (Germany) but its brilliant - and also great for Jump Desktop - it doesn’t solve the fact that Citrix/RDP isn’t ideal all the time and in fact I returned my iPad Pro 12.9 to get a Surface Pro 6 for work as I can’t get away from needing Windows Applications that just work far better natively than via RDP.

That said I picked up an iPad Air 3 to try yesterday with the Pencil and Keyboard and I’m using that today, nice bit of kit!
 
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