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Markyboy81

macrumors 6502a
Oct 30, 2011
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Two very commonly overrated aspects that you just mentioned... 1080p and BlahBlah megapixels.

720p and 1080p are not easily discernible. I, a self-proclaimed videophile... someone who constantly gripes about picture quality... someone who constantly points out to friends and family how their color calibration on their TVs suck... someone who used to play FPS competitively on PCs... cannot even tell the difference between 720p and 1080p.

Unless of course you start showing me examples on ginormous screens.

Megapixels? What good is that 13 Megapixels when the 8mp on my 4S still takes better pictures than any Samsung out there?

3gb ram and 8 cores... okay, that deserves credit. The rest are just upgrades in numbers to make it feel substantial.

5S from 5: Jump to 64bit processing up from 32, though it's more for future purposes. Point being that it is setting a trend that the industry will definitely benefit from.

Further real tweaks to the camera and not just upping the megapixels. You know, tweaks that actually matter.

Noticeably improved graphics - always an underrated aspect that deserves more credit seeing as how the mobile phone market has completely dominated the hand-held gaming arena

M7 - Sounds real good on paper and is a big upgrade... utility remains to be determined




Nah... 5S had the bigger jump than the Note III. Note III is still cool AF though and I'm excited to play with both that and the 5S side-by-side.

I'm not so sure that the difference between 720p and 1080p isn't discernable. I can certainly notice the difference between the S3 Screen and the s4 Screen and the improvement with the note 3 over the note 4 will be even more significant, due to the size.
However, I can understand how there would be no point increasing the pixel density on a screen as small as the iphones.
 

iz2sick

macrumors 6502
Oct 19, 2011
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I'm not so sure that the difference between 720p and 1080p isn't discernable. I can certainly notice the difference between the S3 Screen and the s4 Screen and the improvement with the note 3 over the note 4 will be even more significant, due to the size.
However, I can understand how there would be no point increasing the pixel density on a screen as small as the iphones.

Not so fast... Are you sure it's the pixel count that is accounting for the perceived difference or other improvements to their screen?

And yes, I'm sure some real videophiles can tell, but that won't be the case. If given two phones side-by-side with each type of display, I bet the results will show about a 50/50 ratio of people that pick the correct 1080p display.

The bigger the screen, the more pixels you should have. That is true. But we are talking about cell phones. Even if they were 10", the differences between 720p and 1080p are very negligible. Unless of course you are holding the phone up to your nose.

The biggest advantage you'll have with 1080p is browsing and viewing documents. More of the document can show up on the screen.

I have a 58" TV. I watch 720p programming on it and it looks great. I put in a 1080p movie and it looks great. Problem is, I can't really tell the difference in quality unless I sit close to my TV. But I don't. I sit far enough to where it really doesn't matter whether I'm watching 720 or 1080.

Next time you stroll through a store with TVs, test yourself. Determine if whatever they are playing is 720p or 1080p. Then ask them which it was. Do this in several other stores when you find yourself in one. You could also do this with computer monitors without reading specs... but majority of monitors are 1080p nowadays so that might not work out lol.
 

Dontazemebro

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Jul 23, 2010
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I dunno, somewhere in West Texas
I'll be moving to a Note 3 as well as the 5s from the GS4. The 5c holds little interest for me seeing how it's just a 5 with a shiny new wrapper. Furthermore, the 4s was my last ios device so a 5s would be just in line for me and I'm definitely intrigued by Apple's new A7 chip.
 

rillrill

macrumors 6502a
Jul 27, 2011
843
654
New York
Woah!:eek:

Apple faithfuls are downright mean, lol! You would think they called their kids ugly or something.

I look forward to seeing the champagne iPhone in person. I have always been a fan of the white iPhones. I had black for the 3GS and 4, but decided to change things up with the 4S and 5. from that point on, I stuck with white.

they're not mean. they just "think different."
 

dba415

macrumors 6502a
Jun 18, 2011
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Not so fast... Are you sure it's the pixel count that is accounting for the perceived difference or other improvements to their screen?

And yes, I'm sure some real videophiles can tell, but that won't be the case. If given two phones side-by-side with each type of display, I bet the results will show about a 50/50 ratio of people that pick the correct 1080p display.

The bigger the screen, the more pixels you should have. That is true. But we are talking about cell phones. Even if they were 10", the differences between 720p and 1080p are very negligible. Unless of course you are holding the phone up to your nose.

The biggest advantage you'll have with 1080p is browsing and viewing documents. More of the document can show up on the screen.

I have a 58" TV. I watch 720p programming on it and it looks great. I put in a 1080p movie and it looks great. Problem is, I can't really tell the difference in quality unless I sit close to my TV. But I don't. I sit far enough to where it really doesn't matter whether I'm watching 720 or 1080.

Next time you stroll through a store with TVs, test yourself. Determine if whatever they are playing is 720p or 1080p. Then ask them which it was. Do this in several other stores when you find yourself in one. You could also do this with computer monitors without reading specs... but majority of monitors are 1080p nowadays so that might not work out lol.

If you can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on your own tv then you clearly aren't the one anybody should listen to when it comes to this subject.
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
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i understand every company wants to make $$$ but there should be some innovation with it...

Please wake up, what are you getting for the same price?

Retina display? give me a break (OLED displays are kicking ass)
finger print, no one cares.

IOS is something where I wanted the upgrade to be, be able to attach files to emails, or have a folder there. I do not want to rely on cydia or jailbreak to be able to enjoy my phone and slows down the phone.

What exactly is so innovative about the Note 3? Bigger screen, what an advancement! :rolleyes:
 

rillrill

macrumors 6502a
Jul 27, 2011
843
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New York
What exactly is so innovative about the Note 3? Bigger screen, what an advancement! :rolleyes:

5+" phones:
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3.5-4" phones:
1499-arya-stark-wielding-needle-wallpaper-wallchan.jpg


nuff said.
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
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5+" phones:
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3.5-4" phones:
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nuff said.
Phallic envy, got it.
it's not just the big screens...it's what it does! and what it does is far better than what the iphone does..FOR ME.

That's fine if it does what you need it to. What I'm getting at is the note 3 is refinements to the note 2, the same formula as the 5 to the 5s. Yet for some reason people are wetting their pants over how exciting samsungs minor refresh is and howling mad that apple followed the same model.

The tech media is ridiculous.
 

The Game 161

macrumors Nehalem
Dec 15, 2010
30,991
20,174
UK
Phallic envy, got it.


That's fine if it does what you need it to. What I'm getting at is the note 3 is refinements to the note 2, the same formula as the 5 to the 5s. Yet for some reason people are wetting their pants over how exciting samsungs minor refresh is and howling mad that apple followed the same model.

The tech media is ridiculous.

Actually the note 3 upgrade is quite a good one from the note 2. from screen quailty to S pen features it is very impressive. Well worth the upgrade even from a note 2.

For me I love the S pen features on my note 8.0..and the 32GB storage is a big plus for me from my S4.
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
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Actually the note 3 upgrade is quite a good one from the note 2. from screen quailty to S pen features it is very impressive. Well worth the upgrade even from a note 2.

For me I love the S pen features on my note 8.0..and the 32GB storage is a big plus for me from my S4.

Again, I never said it's not a decent upgrade, what I'm saying is its refinements and enhancements. I don't get why Apple is considered to be failing if it doesn't radically change the smartphone game every year, but the rest are seen as innovative for doing the same refinement cycle that Apple does.

I really do wish apple would release its stylus already, my iPad would be my only device if it had great support rolled right into iOS, that said I'm sure they are waiting for the IGZO process to scale up so they can use the built in capabilities of the screen rather than a stopgap solution. hurry up already!
 

Abs_p

macrumors 6502a
Jul 15, 2011
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I'm not so sure that the difference between 720p and 1080p isn't discernable. I can certainly notice the difference between the S3 Screen and the s4 Screen and the improvement with the note 3 over the note 4 will be even more significant, due to the size.
However, I can understand how there would be no point increasing the pixel density on a screen as small as the iphones.

S3 has a pentile display. So yeah even 720p looks crap on it. Anything over 330ppi is just for numbers sake.
Personally I won't pay anything over 249-299 for an android phone off contract. The overall experience is no where near iOS. Google now is lot more useful then siri though but no android feels cheap to me for some reason.

To people bragging about cores. Pfft. Dual core iPhone 5 doesn't lag 1/10th as much as your 8 core Samsung galaxy s4 lags not to mention its just 4 cores working at one time.(yet)

Coming to screen size . 4" is just fine. But I won't mind 4.3" . I think its the sweet spot and it can be done without increasing the current dimensions of the iPhone considerably.

Talking about battery . No one can deny that iPhone gives better battery life then androids out of box even with the small battery. Better or equal battery life with a 30-40% smaller battery is commendable.



PS : I am using android currently since 8 weeks. Doesn't quite cut it for me.
 
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The Game 161

macrumors Nehalem
Dec 15, 2010
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Again, I never said it's not a decent upgrade, what I'm saying is its refinements and enhancements. I don't get why Apple is considered to be failing if it doesn't radically change the smartphone game every year, but the rest are seen as innovative for doing the same refinement cycle that Apple does.

I really do wish apple would release its stylus already, my iPad would be my only device if it had great support rolled right into iOS, that said I'm sure they are waiting for the IGZO process to scale up so they can use the built in capabilities of the screen rather than a stopgap solution. hurry up already!

I get the feeling alot of the flack apple get is because their phone has pretty much looked the same for like 3 years.
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
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I get the feeling alot of the flack apple get is because their phone has pretty much looked the same for like 3 years.

Which again says much more about the ADHD society we live in as consumers than the pace of innovation in the technology sector.
 

NuggetSauce

macrumors regular
Aug 10, 2012
128
1
I'm disappointed with the 5S and 5C, but I still don't have any desire to sell my 5 for an Android phone until the Android OS and ecosystem appeals to me.
 

rillrill

macrumors 6502a
Jul 27, 2011
843
654
New York
Phallic envy, got it.


That's fine if it does what you need it to. What I'm getting at is the note 3 is refinements to the note 2, the same formula as the 5 to the 5s. Yet for some reason people are wetting their pants over how exciting samsungs minor refresh is and howling mad that apple followed the same model.

The tech media is ridiculous.

just because you have a small device, it doesnt make you any less of a man.

android has always been about control. fine tune you device to you needs. but everyone i talk to that has moved up in screen size cant stomach a smaller screen. if ios could be customized more without a jailbreak and came in a larger size i might go back.
 

mackinmike

macrumors 6502a
May 3, 2012
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Haha, that's hilarious. The 5C is pretty ugly, but that holey case is downright hideous, very un-Apple like. Id say it's probably THE most hideous case I've ever seen on a cell phone, and not even functional.

agreed.. it's horrendous. hey if people ike rocking croc shoes, they can now match their crocs with an ip5c! :D
 

F123D

macrumors 68040
Sep 16, 2008
3,776
16
Del Mar, CA
That's fine if it does what you need it to. What I'm getting at is the note 3 is refinements to the note 2, the same formula as the 5 to the 5s. Yet for some reason people are wetting their pants over how exciting samsungs minor refresh is and howling mad that apple followed the same model.

The tech media is ridiculous.

If you compare the refinements on both devices, the Note 3 was more substantial.
 

Dmunjal

macrumors 68000
Jun 20, 2010
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If you compare the refinements on both devices, the Note 3 was more substantial.

Yeah, this doesn't make sense to me. Samsung is able to increase the Note screen size every year without changing the overall size and weight but Apple cant? Or won't?
 

bmac4

Suspended
Feb 14, 2013
4,885
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Why does everyone moving to Android feel like they need to share it with the world. Goodluck and enjoy it, but no one really cares..

Why do Apple fans feel like they need to post about how much better than like their iphones after using an android phone? Does anyone really care? People want to place to share their opinions and this happens to be that place. You may not agree with what he is saying, but come on.
 
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