MS killing the Edge browser

[sracer]

Here is a short video:

I just fast tracked it, it's old and not really comprehensive, but for start it will do.
Try out Tab Stacking, Split Screen, Session Manager, Quick Commands, Web Panels. Those are just for the start. There are literally 1000x more stuff in that browser, like your own theming (just pick colors and how they will behave), address bar and tab bar positioning, excellent notes integrated into browser, UI scaling, great syncing abilities (you can choose individually what you want to sync, and what not...), every KB shortcut is customizable, etc.

I think it would take 10 pages just to list the DEFAULT possibilities of this browser. And even with no extensions, it's way more powerful then Opera + FF + all extensions possible combined.

And the best part is that EVERY chrome extension works. As do Opera extensions. Give it a week or so, then try using any other browser. It will be like going from a pick up truck to using BMX bike.

Of course, not everyone needs all these features. And everything can be turned on/off, entire point of Vivaldi is complete and full customization. That is the sole reason I love that browser so much. A true successor to Opera browser.

I was a huge fan of Opera and was disappointed when it was sold off. When I heard about the Opera/Vivaldi connection, I tried Vivaldi and I wasn't impressed at all. I heard all the claims of it being more powerful than Chrome, lighter on resources, and faster... but I didn't see those things. That was quite a while ago so maybe it is time to give it another try.

 

[MBAir2010]

My understanding is he/she wants delete "Groove" from W10, how I think it works is you have to assign another application to be the default music player, then you can uninstall Groove. W10 will not allow default applications to be uninstalled for obvious reasons.

I may be wrong as I tend to stick with the default applications as they are generally easier on the battery and present less issues.

Q-6

I am not a woman, or on the street ya fairy! (monty python quote)

 

[MBAir2010]

wow ecosia web browser is bad now, i searched that picture but got ads and top picks...can anyone recommend a non-giggle search engine that works, mostly for research images?

 

[AndyMacAndMic]

read it the 5th.......can i delete the main music app on windows and run foobar music app instead?

Yes you can . Set Foobar as the default program for opening music files. After that you can uninstall Groove. If you mean 'Windows Media Player' with your main music app than I am not sure if you can uninstall that, because it is part of Windows. But if you have set Foobar as the default program you will never see Windows Media Player anyway, so you can simply ignore it.

 

[Queen6]

I am not a woman, or on the street ya fairy! (monty python quote)

No idea, equally people get pissed over the smallest things these days, he, she whatever, far too much of this PC bollocks on the internet...

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[maflynn]

wow ecosia web browser is bad now, i searched that picture but got ads and top picks...can anyone recommend a non-giggle search engine that works, mostly for research images?

windows ?.....can some poor slob delete microsoft programs like their music thing in windows number?.?

on Waterfox

waterfox, giggle search, windows number?? In all honesty, your posts are difficult to discern. I would recommend using the actual names of the products to help convey your message and meaning. I don't know if you're trying to be funny but your posts are difficult to understand. Also consider how helpful they may be if you used the proper names. For example a person has an issue with firefox and you had posted a solution a while ago. If they searched on firefox but you posted waterfox your solution won't be found.

 

[MBAir2010]

I may be wrong as I tend to stick with the default applications as they are generally easier on the battery and present less issues.

Q-6

The main reason i have computer is music and my collection of moving pictures with story lines. Foobar sounds great and works on the ipad, ipod nano. That music app in OSX doe snot habe a "skin" in OSX but knows there is only 1 Jean Sibelius, were itunes has 4 of these composers listed in different classifications. so can someone, poor or not, slob or neatfreak, delete or set default apps on windows ?
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No idea, equally people get pissed over the smallest things these days, he, she whatever, far too much of this PC bollocks on the internet...

Q-6

have you ever seen Monty Python?

 

[Queen6]

The main reason i have computer is music and my collection of moving pictures with story lines. Foobar sounds great and works on the ipad, ipod nano. That music app in OSX doe snot habe a "skin" in OSX but knows there is only 1 Jean Sibelius, were itunes has 4 of these composers listed in different classifications. so can someone, poor or not, slob or neatfreak, delete or set default apps on windows ?
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have you ever seen Monty Python?

Yes, but I cant remember every single episode... Just set the default music player to the application of your choice.

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[MBAir2010]

I don't know if you're trying to be funny but your posts are difficult to understand.

so?

 

[SDColorado]

I was a huge fan of Opera and was disappointed when it was sold off. When I heard about the Opera/Vivaldi connection, I tried Vivaldi and I wasn't impressed at all. I heard all the claims of it being more powerful than Chrome, lighter on resources, and faster... but I didn't see those things. That was quite a while ago so maybe it is time to give it another try.

I just downloaded it to give it a try. I recall trying it when it first came out, but it was rough around the edges. I will give it another shot. Like you, I used to be a big Opera fan.

 

[c0ppo]

Bink is also the browser engine that Microsoft will be using for Anaheim (I really hope they call it something else if they want it to "sell"). I wonder if they will borrow more from Vivaldi than from Chrome for the new browser?

Blink is the engine. Blink is actually just a WebKit fork. Around that engine you build a web browser.

I heard all the claims of it being more powerful than Chrome, lighter on resources, and faster...

It is way more powerful. But Vivaldi isn't light on the resources, since it has a bunch of built in features. They never claimed that. As far as speed goes, they both use the same engine, so the rendering speed should be the same.

That was quite a while ago so maybe it is time to give it another try.

First versions where alpha and beta, and they had a lot of hiccups. But that was to be expected for alpha/beta versions.

 

[redheeler]

waterfox, giggle search, windows number?? In all honesty, your posts are difficult to discern. I would recommend using the actual names of the products to help convey your message and meaning. I don't know if you're trying to be funny but your posts are difficult to understand. Also consider how helpful they may be if you used the proper names. For example a person has an issue with firefox and you had posted a solution a while ago. If they searched on firefox but you posted waterfox your solution won't be found.

Waterfox is an actual browser. Based on Firefox as the name suggests.

 

[maflynn]

Waterfox is an actual browser. Based on Firefox as the name suggests.

My mistake, given the other member's penchant for using non-standard names, like giggle (unless that's real), I thought that was the case as well.

 

[sracer]

First versions where alpha and beta, and they had a lot of hiccups. But that was to be expected for alpha/beta versions.

The version that I tried was not alpha or beta.

 

[decafjava]

My mistake, given the other member's penchant for using non-standard names, like giggle (unless that's real), I thought that was the case as well.

Good grief, it is...

https://gigglesearch.org/

Sorry to go OT but colour me surprised as well.

 

[maflynn]

Good grief, it is...

Well there you go, and to that point I offer my full apology to @phunigai. I was completely wrong and I'm sorry.

 

[SDColorado]

Good grief, it is...

https://gigglesearch.org/

Sorry to go OT but colour me surprised as well.

Me too. I thought it was going to be like a Eugoogalizer

 

[worldvga]

Since Microsoft rolled out the stable build of Windows 10 back in 2015, it started laying emphasis on its new default web browser

 

[AndyMacAndMic]

I just stumbled upon this thread in MacRumors:

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ears-after-internet-explorer-for-mac.2159051/

It seems Microsoft is making Edge for the Mac now.

 

[sracer]

...back to the topic of the Edge browser....
I recently bought an 11.6"Asus E203MA at Best Buy (Black Friday sale and on sale again for $120) solely for a RetroArch/EmulationStation system. It has only 2GB RAM and 32GB storage so I wasn't going to install anything on it beyond RetroArch/EmuStation (installed them to a 64GB micro SD card).

I used Edge to search for missing box art for my ROMs and used the preloaded graphics "3D" program to manipulate the graphics. I was quite impressed with the performance of Edge on this low-end system.

 

[xraydoc]

I use both Chrome and Edge on my Surface Book. I use Chrome the majority of the time but I prefer to use Edge when I'm in tablet mode - the software keyboard pops up properly on edge and it's much more touch-friendly as compared to Chrome. It's also much better on the battery (important when I'm using just the Surface Book tablet).

Hopefully MS's chromium browser gets full tablet/touch/battery/pen optimization.

 

[maflynn]

In what could only be considered a horrible branding decision, it looks like the new MS browser is going to be called.....

Edge
Edge dies a death of a thousand cuts as Microsoft switches to Chromium

So early reports detailed how MS is killing the browser, its really more that they're switching engines. This may help with the enterprise sector, but I think consumers have already made their choice and will not consider a newly updated Edge. Plus Microsoft's horrible track record with version 1.0 products play into this and make no mistake, the new edge will be for all intents and purposes a version 1.0

 

[sracer]

I use both Chrome and Edge on my Surface Book. I use Chrome the majority of the time but I prefer to use Edge when I'm in tablet mode - the software keyboard pops up properly on edge and it's much more touch-friendly as compared to Chrome. It's also much better on the battery (important when I'm using just the Surface Book tablet).

Hopefully MS's chromium browser gets full tablet/touch/battery/pen optimization.

I'm curious if this decision by Microsoft is one of the stepping stones toward their re-re-reboot of a lighter version of Windows. I called Windows 10 S DOA when it was announced, but Windows Lite has the potential to be viable... especially if there's an optimized chromium equipped version of Edge that can offer some Chromebook-like features.

 

[c0ppo]

So early reports detailed how MS is killing the browser, its really more that they're switching engines

Actually, it's way more then that. 99% of the users don't even realise that any OS, be it Android, iOS, MacOS, Windows or Linux use browsers rendering engine a lot. And it comes in basic UI of any OS, without users even realising it.

For instance, MS is betting big on VR. And they are going strong at it at the moment. At the core of their VR is edge rendering engine. How about their new design language with store apps? Edge engine again.

But even worse for MS, look at Microsoft Sets, a great idea from MS. At the core of Sets is yet again - Edge engine.
And MS was pushing it hard, not just the browsers, but developers to use the same engine.

Now out of the blue, they're gonna kill it? Well, either they have already made all code preparations, and everything is done already, or they're working on it. Either way it's really bad news for MS. First off, if the switch to Blink is complete, it took a lot of time and effort to complete it. So instead of fixing bugs and introducing new features, they had to redo the work they had already done.

If it's not complete (and this one is way more probable then the first option), then they will have to redo do work. No way around that.

And what's even worse, this won't help them with developers. Because for those who followed MS and MS vision, they are being dropped. So a lot of work and hours down the drain? Not good.

As far as backwards compatibility goes, well, MS could do that. But for what? After edge is dead, no one is gonna use it for their next project. No one. And Windows 10 has serious issues with backwards compatibility in general. There is simply too much of it already. Someone needs to go in and cut the cord. It will be painful for start, but for better future, it has to be done. Better late then never. Introducing some new backward compatibility wont help at all. But my bet is that MS is going to do just that

 

[IowaLynn]

To bring Edge to pre Windows 10 - 500 million users
"Second, it will enable the app to be updated independently from the OS, which is something Insiders have been calling for since Edge's inception in 2015." - Windows Central

https://forums.windowscentral.com/w...dge-ground-up-using-chromium.html#post3767557