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Munster: An Apple TV Set by 2011
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History shows that these wall street analysts are wrong on Apple stuff over and over again, but still it makes for fun reading.
AppleTV so far has only limited use and is not worth the bother.
AppleTV with TiVo would be ABOUT TIME!
The ability to archive to DVD and/or STREAM to my iPhone would be PRICELESS!
AppleTV so far has only limited use and is not worth the bother.
AppleTV with TiVo would be ABOUT TIME!
The ability to archive to DVD and/or STREAM to my iPhone would be PRICELESS!
i hate analysts...
besides, their job is not to find facts, just have philosophical moments. worthless.
besides, their job is not to find facts, just have philosophical moments. worthless.
I do find it hard to beleive apple would do this.
Still,
It could explain thier new server farm.
Could explan why there is beenno recent
TV updates.
A TV with TV built in, that i can also record broadcast TV as well as downloaded movies on would be good.
Knowing Apple the price point would be >$5000 USD.
Still,
It could explain thier new server farm.
Could explan why there is beenno recent
TV updates.A TV with
TV built in, that i can also record broadcast TV as well as downloaded movies on would be good.Knowing Apple the price point would be >$5000 USD.
Would be awesome. . .
I really don't see this happening. I think that they have learned with theTV "Hobby" they created that the TV industry is not a market they want to enter. I could see them partnering with a TV manufacturer to create software integration with a media server. I could be wrong though. I know if they did I'd probably end up buying it. I would defiantly want iPhone integration like with the apple TV.e
I really don't see this happening. I think that they have learned with the
TV "Hobby" they created that the TV industry is not a market they want to enter. I could see them partnering with a TV manufacturer to create software integration with a media server. I could be wrong though. I know if they did I'd probably end up buying it. I would defiantly want iPhone integration like with the apple TV.e
A set top box, overgrown of Apple TV with DVR I think maybe in the cards,
an Actual Apple TV set, I do not believe it. Most people buy reasonable TV features at the lowest price possible, penetration IMHO would be poor.
Also I seem to remember that Sony or some other brand tv had a deal like that with Netflicks and someone else.
I can see Apple getting into transmitting local TV channels and ala-cart premioum channels to a set top box, a lot of people are not currently happy paying for 350 channels and only watching 10 to 20 of them becuase the others are fluff to them due to different likes and dislikes by subscribers.
To me for example, all the sports channels, religious channels, MTV, music channels, and a bunch more all they do is waste my time having to click past them when getting to the channels I watch. Others would exclude completly differently but the same principle, too many channels that people do not want to watch becuase cable, SAT and others will not give us ala-carte programming.
Obviously you may disagree.
an Actual Apple TV set, I do not believe it. Most people buy reasonable TV features at the lowest price possible, penetration IMHO would be poor.
Also I seem to remember that Sony or some other brand tv had a deal like that with Netflicks and someone else.
I can see Apple getting into transmitting local TV channels and ala-cart premioum channels to a set top box, a lot of people are not currently happy paying for 350 channels and only watching 10 to 20 of them becuase the others are fluff to them due to different likes and dislikes by subscribers.
To me for example, all the sports channels, religious channels, MTV, music channels, and a bunch more all they do is waste my time having to click past them when getting to the channels I watch. Others would exclude completly differently but the same principle, too many channels that people do not want to watch becuase cable, SAT and others will not give us ala-carte programming.
Obviously you may disagree.
If it had a pixel for every time I've reset my Apple TV it would be mega-high-super-high definition...
Maybe they need to get the Apple TV working properly before thinking about anything else.
Maybe they need to get the Apple TV working properly before thinking about anything else.
With this kind of poor speculation he is hurting his own business. I for one have seen enough of his inaccurate "predictions" to take him seriously.
I won't rule out that Apple will enter the TV business, but to deduce that from this circumstantial evidence is just ridiculous.
I won't rule out that Apple will enter the TV business, but to deduce that from this circumstantial evidence is just ridiculous.
I don't see Apple entering this market, but I feel that's where televisions are heading (a no brainer).
I can't even imagine what the sticker price for the Apple Television would be, seeing that the 30" display alone costs $1799.
I can't even imagine what the sticker price for the Apple Television would be, seeing that the 30" display alone costs $1799.
The Apple TV DID have Hulu support up until a few months ago with an incredibly easy hack called Boxee
This guy is the troll of Apple analysts. He's just trying to keep his name in the news so he can hope to one day get "Jim Goldman" type access to Apple execs. Tool!!
With respect, but this "Apple is overpriced" stuff is getting old.
We know it's not cheap, but we buy it anyway, so what's the problem?
Here's my predictions for what an Apple TV set would be like:
- Glossy screen comes standard, and it cost $50 extra to get the anti-glare option
- No Blu-Ray support
- All devices have to be hooked up using the Apple MiniDisplay port, so you have to buy a bunch of adapters
- They'll be several models, from the MacScreen, to the MacScreen Pro
- Glossy screen comes standard, and it cost $50 extra to get the anti-glare option
- No Blu-Ray support
- All devices have to be hooked up using the Apple MiniDisplay port, so you have to buy a bunch of adapters
- They'll be several models, from the MacScreen, to the MacScreen Pro
Steve Jobs must have been watching more TV than normal lately. He probably saw things he wanted to improve with an Apple product.
I suppose there's no harm in Apple offering the option just to see how it goes, but it doesn't make sense to me. Everyone already has a TV, and when they buy their next one they have many options. They don't object to hooking other devices to their TV (everyone does it) so a separate AppleTV box remains the best option.
Seeing Apple TV advance would be nice, though. And I do like using my Mac as my DVR!
Seeing Apple TV advance would be nice, though. And I do like using my Mac as my DVR!
I see this as something that could end up being HUGE for Apple. I've always said they should get into television and high-end home theater equipment. They completely changed the music industry with iPod/iTunes. They completely changed the mobile phone industry with iPhone/App Store. I can see them completely changing the home theater industry with their televisions and whatever else they have in mind.
And why not? Just about everything they put effort into innovates an entire industry, why not home theater? (after that, maybe car audio/video perhaps?)
And why not? Just about everything they put effort into innovates an entire industry, why not home theater? (after that, maybe car audio/video perhaps?)
This is a rumor site after all, I understand that. But everything that's pure speculation is also reported here. Anything anyone thinks Apple might come up with. It gets to the point where it's not really information anyone can use.
I'd like to report that Apple COULD be a game changer in the hot air balloon market. Maybe 2012. iBalloon, a totally green transportation technology.
I'd like to report that Apple COULD be a game changer in the hot air balloon market. Maybe 2012. iBalloon, a totally green transportation technology.
The idea of an Apple branded DVR is possible, but I would say thats about as far as it would go (replace the cable company? fat ****ing chance).
The opportunity for an Apple DVR exists because of OCAP or now known as Tru2Way. Apple could build their own STB like TiVo has done, but integrate iTunes to allow people to buy shows and movies, as well as stream music and movies from iTunes around the house.
There are substantial issues however, one is engineering and support - TiVo is slow as molasses when it comes to engineering new hardware (the new DirecTV TiVo just got delayed again). For Apple, you'd probably have to re-engineer the AppleTV to use an ARM chip and a broadcom video decoder (which, IMO, they need to do anyways to cut AppleTV costs down so they can sell it at $149), but from there you're really only adding the cable tuner and hardware to communicate with the headend, and the Java software to run the OCAP platform.
The issue of replacing the cable company wont work because they will not let themselves turn into a dumb pipe while all your video comes in over the internet. They'll institute monthly transmission caps (250GB/mo or whatever), they'll make sure that their providers (Discovery, Viacom, Disney/ABC, Universal, etc) don't put shows on iTunes until the day after they air. So while everyone else it talking about last nights episode of Survivor: Mars, you haven't been able to watch it yet because it just came out on iTunes a few hours ago. There are a number of things they can do to keep iTunes from getting a leg up.
The opportunity for an Apple DVR exists because of OCAP or now known as Tru2Way. Apple could build their own STB like TiVo has done, but integrate iTunes to allow people to buy shows and movies, as well as stream music and movies from iTunes around the house.
There are substantial issues however, one is engineering and support - TiVo is slow as molasses when it comes to engineering new hardware (the new DirecTV TiVo just got delayed again). For Apple, you'd probably have to re-engineer the AppleTV to use an ARM chip and a broadcom video decoder (which, IMO, they need to do anyways to cut AppleTV costs down so they can sell it at $149), but from there you're really only adding the cable tuner and hardware to communicate with the headend, and the Java software to run the OCAP platform.
The issue of replacing the cable company wont work because they will not let themselves turn into a dumb pipe while all your video comes in over the internet. They'll institute monthly transmission caps (250GB/mo or whatever), they'll make sure that their providers (Discovery, Viacom, Disney/ABC, Universal, etc) don't put shows on iTunes until the day after they air. So while everyone else it talking about last nights episode of Survivor: Mars, you haven't been able to watch it yet because it just came out on iTunes a few hours ago. There are a number of things they can do to keep iTunes from getting a leg up.
I couldn't give a rats tail what the cable companies think. I pay way too much for cable service. THEY are the ones that have enjoyed regional monopolies in towns throughout the years. THEY are the ones who have resisted consumer attempts to order channels a la carte - instead; forcing their packages on customers. THEY are the ones who fought tooth and nail to prevent the cable cards and integration of services like TIVO - instead; forcing their crappy DVR bricks onto customers. THEY are the ones charging extra for multiple cable boxes and remotes per account. THEY are the ones who haven't figured out what DRM has done to the Record Labels.
I say - let the cable companies die a painful bankruptcy and bring on my new and improved Apple TV service.