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Munster: An Apple TV Set by 2011
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Yeah exactly they did it once before.
Apple would be great for an HD version now. They could solve the "too many remotes" problem that has been around for the last 20 years, and combine it with some TIVO PVR functionality and like the Apple TV small box thing, it could do movies through iTunes of course.
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Didn't say AT&T didn't suck.
Different issue. But that's AT&T's failure, not Apple's.
Both sat companies' DVRs are so much better (and virtually always less $$/month), the Comcast DVR shouldn't even be allowed to use that generic term. You should consider switching.
Sorry to be a bit off topic.
I just saw the analyst conceptual mockup and it looks like a 55" iPhone with a home button as the only control on the device. Shiny
Do you have to shake it to change channels? That's a dealbreaker for me.
A DVR would allow you to get free over-the-air programming. If you stream it, they can charge you for it.
I'd hate to see the price on an Apple LCD TV.
Go into a random store and check out the better Sony, Samsung, Toshiba and Panasonic models. Do you go
too when you see these, or do you rather admire the sheer greatness of what you see?Apple would enter a market that is already full of _good_ competition. They'd rather sell chicken salad than TVs.
Think again
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_TV
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Interactive_Television_Box
I was only 3 years old when this came out. Were you even born yet?
As for the "new" apple TV set, heres what I see.
- Internet integration. Being able to have access to your i tunes library from the remote control as well as buy and download.
- DVR eirther standard or as an add on package
- Mobile me will some how be integrated in the device
- Widgets that will display traffic and weather updates
- all the ports listed above by "Eric"
- LED standard. (by 2011, LED will be more mainstream)
Now your getting a bit silly. I highly dobut apple and steve will take over the world. To many half bitten decomposing apples around
Thats ATT, not Apple.
Thats ATT, not Apple.
Such a product is obsolete before it is even released.
I have an HDTV right now plugged into my cable box/DVR. I have an HDMI cable plugged into the back of my TV and the other end of the cord is next to my sofa. When I want to plug my laptop into my TV, it's easy as 123. I already have Youtube, and EVERYTHING that my computer does already on my HDTV. What could this product possibly offer in addition?
Since Apple is headquartered near San Francisco, how about The Golden Gate Bridge?
In the same way that corporations have their names on sports stadiums (think Staples Center), it is entirely possible for Apple to workout a deal with a city to get their logo on a bridge like this. How about a stadium? "The Apple Center" or "SuperBowl XX___ at Apple Stadium"
I have an HDTV right now plugged into my cable box/DVR. I have an HDMI cable plugged into the back of my TV and the other end of the cord is next to my sofa. When I want to plug my laptop into my TV, it's easy as 123. I already have Youtube, and EVERYTHING that my computer does already on my HDTV. What could this product possibly offer in addition?
Since Apple is headquartered near San Francisco, how about The Golden Gate Bridge?
In the same way that corporations have their names on sports stadiums (think Staples Center), it is entirely possible for Apple to workout a deal with a city to get their logo on a bridge like this. How about a stadium? "The Apple Center" or "SuperBowl XX___ at Apple Stadium"
Options
I don't know what Apple would do, but it appears there are a few options here.
Most evolutionary, is leaving the existing setup (ATV connected to any generic HDTV via a single HDMI cable and possibly to your stereo system via a single optical digital audio cable). I really don't think a total of three cables (two power cables and one data cable connecting them) is significantly worse than one cable (just power in) for the base wifi system, but I can see Jobs differing in opinion. When it comes to the jumble of wires in a typical home theater system, though, the extra two wires are completely insignificant unless your home theater system gets its power from the air and uses 8 (7.1) wireless speakers.
So, let's focus here first.
Take an AppleTV and add:
* Ability to watch advertiser-funded shows. That is, allow something like Hulu streaming to the ATV.
* MAYBE if they are generous, a DVD player. Without that, I just rip it on my Mac and download to the ATV, but having a DVD player built-in would make it easier to watch something quickly.
That's it. The "DVR" idea is silly, if you are assuming a fat and always-on internet connection. Just stream what you want to watch when you want to watch it. If you want it always available then download it to your disk for the $1.99 fee, and watch it even if it ceases being available for streaming.
Personally, I haven't had cable or satellite for just about a year now, and have been "living off" a combination of Hulu, AppleTV, and DVD box sets (for Showtime series). It's actually been quite great. And the extra $85 per month to spend on niceties like food has been nice too. The thing that keeps me off the ATV, though, is the lack of advertiser-funded programming. Not every show is worth $1.99 to watch. Sometimes - in fact, most often - I'd rather invest 5 minutes of ignoring commercials on Hulu instead.
Okay, then there's the next level: integrate ATV and the TV.
This is as stupid of an idea as integrating the computer and monitor.
That having been said, it would likely be a pretty big hit. It would remove two cords in the simplest of systems, although the heftier systems would likely rather just have a set-top box (if for no other reason than to have less to replace when one of the components breaks or needs updating).
Again, though: anyone saying there should be a DVR in there is completely missing the point. The "DVR" is the $1.99 per show download from Apple (or $x per season subscription). That's it.
I don't know what Apple would do, but it appears there are a few options here.
Most evolutionary, is leaving the existing setup (ATV connected to any generic HDTV via a single HDMI cable and possibly to your stereo system via a single optical digital audio cable). I really don't think a total of three cables (two power cables and one data cable connecting them) is significantly worse than one cable (just power in) for the base wifi system, but I can see Jobs differing in opinion. When it comes to the jumble of wires in a typical home theater system, though, the extra two wires are completely insignificant unless your home theater system gets its power from the air and uses 8 (7.1) wireless speakers.
So, let's focus here first.
Take an AppleTV and add:
* Ability to watch advertiser-funded shows. That is, allow something like Hulu streaming to the ATV.
* MAYBE if they are generous, a DVD player. Without that, I just rip it on my Mac and download to the ATV, but having a DVD player built-in would make it easier to watch something quickly.
That's it. The "DVR" idea is silly, if you are assuming a fat and always-on internet connection. Just stream what you want to watch when you want to watch it. If you want it always available then download it to your disk for the $1.99 fee, and watch it even if it ceases being available for streaming.
Personally, I haven't had cable or satellite for just about a year now, and have been "living off" a combination of Hulu, AppleTV, and DVD box sets (for Showtime series). It's actually been quite great. And the extra $85 per month to spend on niceties like food has been nice too. The thing that keeps me off the ATV, though, is the lack of advertiser-funded programming. Not every show is worth $1.99 to watch. Sometimes - in fact, most often - I'd rather invest 5 minutes of ignoring commercials on Hulu instead.
Okay, then there's the next level: integrate ATV and the TV.
This is as stupid of an idea as integrating the computer and monitor.
That having been said, it would likely be a pretty big hit. It would remove two cords in the simplest of systems, although the heftier systems would likely rather just have a set-top box (if for no other reason than to have less to replace when one of the components breaks or needs updating).
Again, though: anyone saying there should be a DVR in there is completely missing the point. The "DVR" is the $1.99 per show download from Apple (or $x per season subscription). That's it.
This is from a thread back in february when i posted a link to an article along the same lines...
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=7079411#post7079411
so maybe its possible....
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=7079411#post7079411
so maybe its possible....
Exactly. I'm really looking forward to the next iteration of the Apple TV. I think it's pretty good now, but I don't think it has fully hit its stride yet.
Great. First trying to be Mattel, now trying to be Curtis Mathes.
Here's an idea... how about trying to make state of the art desktop personal computers for a change?
and that means more then silly unibody designs, buttonless touchpads and not following port standards like firewirwe
I personally rather see Apple update the Apple TV. Make it more powerful with full 1080p support.
Maybe even pioneer a new subscription model that can do away with cable/satellite providers.
Add support for games.
Basically just make the Apple TV the must have digital media center, heck make it so good that it is the only box I need under my TV (besides sound system). I know it's far fetched but a hell of a lot better idea then building a TV. But hey if they sold a separate box AND had a TV with the functions built in, well then, cool beans.
Maybe even pioneer a new subscription model that can do away with cable/satellite providers.
Add support for games.
Basically just make the Apple TV the must have digital media center, heck make it so good that it is the only box I need under my TV (besides sound system). I know it's far fetched but a hell of a lot better idea then building a TV. But hey if they sold a separate box AND had a TV with the functions built in, well then, cool beans.
A DVR would allow you to get free over-the-air programming. If you stream it, they can charge you for it.
If you stream it they can make sure you get time-relevant commercials that pay for it. If you DVR it you get to fast-forward through (a lot) of commercials that are out of date by the time you watch it.
When advertising is more reliable (ex, with Hulu where you can not fast forward through it) it is feasible for there to be much less of it (hence about 2 minutes of advertising on 22 minutes of content, instead of 8 minutes or more).
Or are you convinced that your TV should be free of cost and free of advertising? 'Cause AppleTV currently offers that too: it's called "Podcasts" (although quite a few of them are ad-funded too, of course).
Personally, I'd rather stream 90% of what I watch, and download a few select shows to be watched commercial-free whenever I want. Both models need to be in place. "DVR" is just a way of translating time-based broadcast to a download; I'm fine with paying for the download and removing the ads at the same time.
piss off with the apple television!
give me a fully functional/fully integrated/7.1/wifi/bluetooth enabled apple home stereo system.
give me an apple car stereo system with wifi/bluetooth so i can download songs from/to my car in my driveway in the evening or before i leave.
this would would truly make me happy. i'm on the road way too much to need the television (unless of course it was a tv in my car)
give me a fully functional/fully integrated/7.1/wifi/bluetooth enabled apple home stereo system.
give me an apple car stereo system with wifi/bluetooth so i can download songs from/to my car in my driveway in the evening or before i leave.
this would would truly make me happy. i'm on the road way too much to need the television (unless of course it was a tv in my car)
Yes. As Cook said, they will continue to invest, and I expect an update and added features, but not what he is talking about. Ultimately it would be great, but I don't see them making a TV. Why do that when people can just buy the box and connect it to any tv?
What I see happening is the Tablet connecting to the TV through Apple TV and expanding the App Store to your TV. That is what I think Apple needs to do, and it would be HUGE. They really need to get on the ball with all that!
Now your getting a bit silly. I highly dobut apple and steve will take over the world. To many half bitten decomposing apples around
Thats ATT, not Apple.
i understand that I wasspeaking of partnerships and how they don't usally work hence ...AT&T sucks!
but i didnt make it clear sorry
Let me guess, it would be HD, but only 720p, there would be no HDMI port, just display port, all content would have to be pre-approved by apple, no programs with swearing or nudity. Definitely no fart programs for the first year until they work out an age rating system. The TV would be locked to one cable provider that doesn't carry the channels people want. The only remote supplied would be the one you get macbooks,
and I'd still buy one.
and I'd still buy one.