Music - Missing Features, Bugs, Issues & Troubleshooting (Sequoia)

[ErikGrim]

macOS 15.1 Sequoia - Music 1.5.1.24

Spoiler: Revision history

macOS 15.1b7+8 Sequoia - Music 1.5.0.174
macOS 15.1b5 Sequoia - Music 1.5.0.170
macOS 15.1b2 Sequoia - Music 1.5.0.141
macOS 15.0b1 Sequoia - Music 1.5.0.107
macOS 14.5 Sonoma - Music 1.4.5.36
macOS 13 Ventura 13.4b3 - Music 1.3.5.6
Big Sur 11.5 - Music 1.1.5.74
Catalina 10.15.5 - Music 1.0.5.14

Missing Features

1. "Search Filter Field" for Local Library "Songs / Column View" and "Playlists" is not visible by default -> must manually invoke "Show Filter Field" (menu < view< Show Filter Field (short cut = cmd + alt + F ), or press the filter icon View attachment 2015804 - (The open field still does not persist between switching playlists )
2. Album/song view: Can't view albums in place. Music has a separate page for every album. Artist view can view them in a list.
3. No option for setting smaller grid size in album view. - previously in iTunes you could have 13 albums on each row, in Music limited to only 5 per row, makes scrolling through library tedious.
4. Now Playing - Can't view a bigger version of the album art from Now playing. (previously in iTunes you could cmd + click to open a bigger artwork. This was separate from the mini player which wouldn't resize quite large and won't open in iTunes full screen) - alternative is ctrl + click for menu and select "Show Album In Library"
5. Mini Player - "No Search Field" - as existed in iTunes - "History" is there, can toggle between "History" and "Playing Next" - but no search option
6. Sync Play Info - from iOS device back to Music App on Mac: Some users report that "Play Counts" do not update / sync back to Music app on Mac as was the case in iTunes - this may be an issue on the iOS side - see post 276 for more info . . .
7. Gestures missing in Apple Music - (compare to iTunes Store where gestures still work - I guess their solution was to remove gestures from the iTunes Store as well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )
8. XML library is no longer automatically generated - the XML file was for "sharing info" to other apps (it can still be created via "Export Library") – missing this can cause issues for some DJ software and sound system apps like sonos etc. - creating a manual XML file can be a useful work around ( see file menu)
9. Missing Icons - iPad version of Music has icons for playlists, macOS does not
10. Playlist Rename - No way to rename playlists inline from the sidebar - work around - can be changed in the playlist header on the same screen. Possibly removed so you can double click playlists to start playing from sidebar (which still doesn't line up with how Finder works)
11. Artwork for new music - Ripping old CD's into "Music" Still does not always add "Non Apple" Artwork - may require manually adding artwork
12. No Visual Feedback When Adding Songs to Queue - There's no indication that a song has been added to Up Next Queue at all. Previously there was an animation showing the song being added, and the glyph would glow blue indicating that there were upcoming songs. Both of these indicators have been removed.
13. Importing tracks progress (from CD or Finder) is no longer showing

Spoiler: Restored features

[*]Internet radio (old style streaming stations) - see apple support info - alternative = use a stand alone app such as "MyTuner". Streaming with direct URL (cmd-U) still supported.
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Bugs

1. "Filter Field" Search does not persist when switching between playlists - Bug or Missing Feature ? - as mentioned above in missing features - Filter Field is the best option for searching local libraries, playlists etc. but disappears when switching to other views. Using the show lyrics icon at the top right also removes the Filter fields and wipes out any search text - losing the entry and requires re-opeing the "filter fileld" and re-entering the text again. Ventura at least now has an icon to quickly click to open it, but the opened state still does not persist.
2. Main Search Box defaults to Apple Music - when using the main search box (left / top) to search "local library" search defaults / displays results on Apple Music even when there is already purchased music in local library. Fortunately the state of which library / store you searched last now seems to persist
3. Main Search Box disappears - The search field, being part of the sidebar, disappears up with the scroll making it useless for searching playlists lower down on the list
4. Artwork Handling and Bugs - Artwork handling is just terrible. They just don't show up for a lot of songs — sometimes it happens in the Songs view, sometimes in the Album view that pops up when Cmd+L, sometimes in the mini player up top. All the artworks are like 1800px max (usually 1400px)
5. After a restart of the app the sorting changes from "Album by Artist/Year" to "Album" in smart playlists.
6. Some of the advanced playback features (for example Sound Check, Equalizer settings, Volume Adjust and Start/Stop) are not working when AirPlay playback is enabled.
7. On a wired (Ethernet) connection with WiFi off, try selecting an AirPlay output in Music. The primary network connection will immediately drop out and take some time to reestablish itself. Any network traffic (e-mail, file transfers, etc.) will be interrupted. (Holdover bug from iTunes)
8. Dragging tracks into a playlist from Finder to the top, or anywhere within a playlist, adds the tracks to the bottom of a playlist instead
9. Returning to a song you are playing in the main library (Songs) with cmd-L is now impossible as it displays it as part of an album always - even if it is not part of an album / the only song. Previously would return to the place in the list.
10. Songs that are matched, but have been removed from the iTunes Store library for whatever reason (usually older compilations that have had songs taken off them when licensing has expired) will get stuck on download and cause the entire download queue to stop until they are manually stopped. These songs can not be removed from the library with Music. A workaround is to search for the song in Music on an iOS device and remove it there.
11. Moving tracks in synced playlist will often put the track right back where you moved it from
12. Quitting while downloading tracks will cause a beachball and take a long time
13. Turning on AirPlay network cuts off ALL audio, including the intended streaming.
14. Not persisting between launches:
    1. Playlist folder states
    2. If you were in a playlist inside a folder prior to quitting, Music will open up blank with no library or playlist selected
15. Crossfade does not work if Lossless playback is enabled
16. When in full screen and you are trying to add a cover from your photo library, that immovable modal goes under the immovable edit modal.

Spoiler: Fixed bugs

• No Longer can disable viewing "Apple Music" in left Side Bar: as of Monterey you cannot disable viewing "Apple Music" at the top of the left side bar - a waste of screen if you are not subscribed to monthly subscription of "Apple Music"
• Playlist/albums scroll positions are now retained if you switch away from them. Clicking them more than once returns to the top
• Can edit/add "work and movement" for a single track (for example Classical Music Tracks): Click the title button to edit.
• Mini Player now retract to its original location gracefully when a lyric/playlist pane is toggled, when initiated from a lower section of the screen.
• Music window does immediately receive focus when clicked. There is no longer a noticeable delay around half second before the window gets the focus.
• Genres now autopopulate when editing in Song view.
• Column widths in playlists now persists between launches
• When switching between Get Info windows, the selected field does not persist
• "Show Artwork" in View < "Show View Options" CMD+J - Disabling "Show artwork" in Column/Song view does not persist between launches - re-appears at next launch and often displays generic icons - why show artwork if the icon is generic - waste of screen space - Fixed in Music Version 1.1.6.12
• Rating stars in list view are not retina! How? Fixed in 1.2.0.146
• Display Bar Missing (affected by language selection) - Some "French" language users report that Music can crash (mini player) and "top bar / player is blank" in album view - see screen shot post 194 - workaround = switch APP language back to English - check - then back to "french language" - see screen shot post 213 (not reported for a while, presumably fixed)
• Inconsistency in star ratings, some are coloured and low res, some retina and non-coloured for no apparent reason:
  View attachment 1712454
• Mouse clicks in the song list view will often get stuck, fail to register, or cause brief "move" actions instead of playing tracks
• Misaligned play/pause button introduced in 1.2.0.130, bit better but still misaligned in 146. Fixed in 1.2.0.158.
• Beachball often appears when using the new search. - I can’t seem to reproduce this anymore on my 110K+ library
• Listen Now doesn't load (new in 1.1.0.234) loads very slowly / does not load for some / crashes Music for some
• Mini M1 with Apple Magic Mouse. Start Music and the mouse is unresponsive for about a minute
• Removing lots of songs from the queue using the red minus button, the button disappears when you do it too quickly
• When you enter the miniplayer it mutes the music for a split second
• Artwork for the currently playing song might be incorrectly displayed in the Music window. (128688400)

[*]Opening lyrics while the filter field is open will remove the filter field and any input in it. Data loss! merged with filter field line
[*]A new playlist is not created takes a long time to appear when creating from an album in Apple Music. To reproduce, click the "More" (the three dots (•••) button on an album in browsing mode of Apple Music, then select "Add to Playlist," which then provides a long list of playlists, including "New Playlist.". Takes a long time with a "Creating playlist in Library" in activitiy. Causes error 9,039. Resolved as of music 1.1.2.28
[*]Double clicking a track for the first time will sometimes skip the track
[*]Stars don't show up at all under Artist in Songs list when app is open in Dark mode.
[*]Checkboxes in Songs view are showing as checked even it's actually unchecked when selected.
[*]Cmd+L in Songs view doesn't scroll the list to show the song but instead opens a whole new view that covers up the songs list. Does nothing in full screen mode. (Works if song is playing from a different playlist)
[*]Cmd-F no longer works to activate search. (new in 1.1.0.186) Cmd-F now takes you to the Apple Music Categories page for some reason (new in 1.1.0.243)
[*]Music app will randomly stop registering double clicks on a song to play. I have to use the "Play" button when you hover over the song number. If I quit and reopen the app double clicking works for a while and then stops again.
[*]Shuffle and Repeat Icons don't work when clicked (new in 1.1.0.208)
[*]Shuffle and Repeat icons don't appear until you click Shuffle in a playlist.
[*]Random UI bugs. It will lag, sometimes flash when going between albums, and the animations are sometimes very abrupt.
[*]Playlist folders re-expand when deleting playlists.
[*]Playlist folders are always expanded when restarting the app.
[*]Genius results can’t be updated right now. An Unknown error occured (18004) (4001).
[*]The results box not appearing properly
[*]Right clicking on an item within the “Browse” and “Listen Now” content areas sometimes opens the contextual menu at a random location.
[*]When I am playing a song in the list view and then I click Controls -> Go to Current Song (cmd + L) it changes to the album view (and goes back to the song view after clicking on the back arrow). When I do the same thing playing a song from a smart playlist, it remains in the song view.
[*]Play icon is cut off

Issues

1. Filter field state DOES NOT PERSIST between switching playlists.
2. Playlists do not retain view and column width settings after converting iTunes library.
3. Shuffle - Un-Shuffle Confusion - This is the difference between inactive / active state of "shuffle" and "repeat" - shuffle indicated by shuffle icon turning blue when active (not easy to notice if on or off) see post 226 shuffle info - "repeat" is a similar 3 way toggle on the right side
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Apple's attempt to solve this issue is to now add a dot below the active icon:
   
4. Play list Header Can’t remove playlist header in Song view. This seems to be intended behaviour, which sucks. This is the same as it was in iTunes - and in Music, this is where to edit the Playlist title / name now that you can no longer edit it from the side bar
5. AppleScript / Scrobblers / Keyboard remote apps addressing “iTunes.app” no longer working. Last.fm scrobblers for Music now exist.
6. Deleting multiple playlists is a hassle. Deleting one at a time causes beachballs. Extremely annoying if you run into the duplicated playlist bug. Why can't we select more than one at a time?
7. Loading the library can take a long time, especially after a force quit. Even on SSD.
8. Updating artist artwork takes a long time / lots of CPU.
9. Font weight and size for differencing primary/secondary text are extremely minimal. Harder to read and scan - especially on non-retina screens.
10. "Show Only Downloaded Music" option is now universal. Not per playlist.
11. Transport bar only shows time elapsed/remaining when hovering.
12. Can't cmd + select to multiselect songs when youre searching apple music
13. Scrolling is not as nice as in other apps like safari
14. No download all automatically option, I have a smart playlist just for this
15. Even if a playlist is set to download, adding new songs to it doesn't automatically download the new songs
16. When viewing all songs, clicking the column header to sort but that doesn't work, you have to spam click it until it responds

Spoiler: Fixed issues

1. UI conventions from iOS are unwelcome, especially the slide-in lyrics / playing next panes which covers content and hides the filter and sort buttons. Slide in panes move content instead of covering it now, but only in playlist view. Frustratingly inconsistent.
2. Apple Music is slow to load and navigate - even on very fast connections / 2020 iMacs. – This seems to have improved significantly with 12.2.2.x but is still not as instant as you'd want it to be.

Troubleshooting

1. To rebuild your library from iTunes:
   
   Spoiler: Instructions

   Hold option when launching, select your old iTunes library in ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Library.itl
   

   1. OR: try deleting ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Music.plist then
      1. Move your music out of the Music folder and delete everything left in it.
      2. cd ~/Library and remove any folders that have Music or iTunes in the name
      3. cd ~/Library/Caches and delete any folders with Music or iTunes in the name
      4. Reboot
      5. Put your music folders back where you had them before. You may need to Import your music again to let the Music app organize them in a way that makes sense to it
   2. OR: This Applescript will force playlist re-build from original "iTunes Music Library.xml"
      https://github.com/dimecho/iTunes-Catalina
2. Music Store can be enabled under view and in preferences.
3. Home Sharing has moved to the Sharing pane in System Preferences (Media Sharing)
4. Some sync issues for older iPods fixed by installing ItunesAccess https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/has-anyone-gotten-an-ipod-shuffle-2nd-gen-to-work.2196567/
5. Switching all your playlists (back) to song view is quicker if you add a keyboard shortcut (System Prefs -> Keyboard) to this View item:
   View attachment 870422
6. Doug Adams have started updating all his scripts for Music
7. You may need to connect the remote app manually and not with home sharing:
   open remote app => tap settings in upper right corner => add iTunes library => in the music app in your Mac: look for the remote app symbol (arrow with your iPhone name) and enter the 4 digits
8. Music always starting in full screen mode? Close Music, run
   
   defaults delete com.apple.Music
   
   in Terminal, and reopen Music (and re-set your preferences).
9. The new Favourite function that replaces "love" is for AM/iCloud libraries only. Continue to use the old rating function for your local only library.
10. If you are not a fan of this lobotomised iTunes, your best solution might be to just install iTunes again. Yes, this still works in Sonoma!

New welcome features:

1. New top bar View attachment 857531
2. New Listen Now screen: View attachment 926401
3. Real-time lyrics in pane, mini-player and full screen mode (1.0.4.89)
4. New Full screen mode activated from mini-player zoom button or keyboard shortcut
   
   Thanks to @Internet Enzyme for discovering and screenshots
5. 1.0.5.9 allows you to two-finger scroll the volume and track bars.
6. Selection outlines now appearing when hovering over the lyrics and upcoming buttons, however nothing yet for the play/pauses buttons which also have outlines in Podcasts.
7. Animated playlist artwork in Listen Now are now present, the same as iOS
8. Mute and full volume glyphs on the volume slider are now selectable and change colour when clicked
9. 1.1.0.186 has the iOS 14 icon
   View attachment 936556
10. You can now add descriptions to Playlists (from 1.1.2.25)
11. Apple Music backend rebuilt with native views (from 1.2.2.23)
12. Filter and sort icons (from 1.3.x)
13. New Favourite function (✩) replacing Love for adding to library and recommendation algorithm in line with iOS 17.1 (from 1.4.x). Your favourited tracks show up in the new Favourites playlist. This is an AM/iCloud library only feature. Use the old rating function for your local only library.
14. You can now go to the page of any artists and select "Suggest Less" to hear less of that artist in mixes (previously only available for individual songs)
15. From 1.4.2.53 (14.2) On launch, AM no longer has to wait for the library to load before you can interact with the app. Very welcome improvement!
16. From 1.4.3.17 (14.3) Favourite playlist and Collaborative Playlists are added

This article is a summary of the failings of Apple Music as a whole, with suggestions of fixes.

Wiki post: everyone is welcome to add to and edit.

 

[ErikGrim]

Does Apple just hate me? Now filter won't even persist if you click away without typing.

 

[tomtad]

Is it still the same crap?

 

[nortonandreev]

Is it still the same crap?

Very much so!

 

[Slix]

How many features did they take away this time?

 

[Ismelito]

Is anyone else experiencing issues when sending audio to Sony WH-1000X4 headphones via Bluetooth? The sound constantly cuts out compared to Sonoma (just updated today). Not happening with AirPods Pro...

 

[TruthWatcher412]

When I go to play a Music playlist on shuffle, it'll play 1-2 songs and then just stop as if it's played all 200+ songs that are on the playlist. I just have to go into the app and tap 'Shuffle' for it to start playing again.

 

[ErikGrim]

Is it still the same crap?

Yes. No noted improvements.

 

[ylluminate]

Gave up on Music.app and iTunes.app - moved to Swinsian and it is AMAZING. Like having the old (very awesome) iTunes back. I won't be going down the Apple music track again. Too much pain.

 

[Lord of the Pies]

Gave up on Music.app and iTunes.app - moved to Swinsian and it is AMAZING. Like having the old (very awesome) iTunes back. I won't be going down the Apple music track again. Too much pain.

I use Apple Music (mostly on Mac, Sonoma) for hours every day. It's great as far as I can tell. Especially the Discovery Station. I have a fairly large library and set of playlists - I haven't come across another streaming platform with anywhere near the same library organisation as Apple Music. And uploads are seamlessly blended in.

What has been so painful for you?

 

[ylluminate]

There are far too many things to explain @Lord of the Pies. I have utilized Retroactive (successfully) for years and on into macOS 14 for the past year, but when I discovered Swinsian 3 beta (using: Version 3.0 Preview 15 (597) available from https://swinsian.com/sparkle_beta/sparklecast.xml), every single pain point has been addressed. I've been using OSX / macOS for 23 years and iTunes was really good, but started to decline. Music.app was irrevocably damaged when I started to use it and when I have tried to use it over the past some years. Again, I don't care to elucidate the whys thereof (there are enough of those all over creation and you can see that a LOT of folks feel the same via Retroactive posts), but I simply can say I'm grateful that James, the developer of Swinsian, has done such an outstanding job at bringing the spirit of iTunes back to us.

 

[Lord of the Pies]

There are far too many things to explain @Lord of the Pies. I have utilized Retroactive (successfully) for years and on into macOS 14 for the past year, but when I discovered Swinsian 3 beta (using: Version 3.0 Preview 15 (597) available from https://swinsian.com/sparkle_beta/sparklecast.xml), every single pain point has been addressed. I've been using OSX / macOS for 23 years and iTunes was really good, but started to decline. Music.app was irrevocably damaged when I started to use it and when I have tried to use it over the past some years. Again, I don't care to elucidate the whys thereof (there are enough of those all over creation and you can see that a LOT of folks feel the same via Retroactive posts), but I simply can say I'm grateful that James, the developer of Swinsian, has done such an outstanding job at bringing the spirit of iTunes back to us.

I've also used iTunes/Apple Music for over 20 years and I wasn't aware there were any major grievances with Apple Music in 2024.

Its playback of cloud tracks isn't as responsive as Spotify and should be improved. But otherwise, seems great to me.

• The old-school iTunes default layout is still available as the Songs view
• The library management is miles ahead of any other music streaming service I'm aware of
• CD ripping and burning are outstanding
• Lossless is available on most stuff
• The Artist column view is really nice imo

In any case, how can anyone get by without streaming these days? A huge amount of stuff can only be streamed, and there's so much new music month-to-month that the cost of buying it all would be insane. And more importantly, missing out on personalised and curated playlists is a tragedy.

 

[ylluminate]

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In any case, how can anyone get by without streaming these days? A huge amount of stuff can only be streamed, and there's so much new music month-to-month that the cost of buying it all would be insane. And more importantly, missing out on personalised and curated playlists is a tragedy.

Really? I do not stream (audio in terms of music listening) and no one I know streams audio (except for some YT videos and those can always be captured and inserted). I listen to audio I've owned for a very long time and I use freely available music productions (that are up-to-date) and offered as podcasts by DJs and music producers and then run them through .cue splitters so I can rate songs and keep track of such. I have an enormous amount of variety and music - all to my taste and preference. I wouldn't dream of streaming anything - ever.

Again, I know many people who are precisely the same in their preferences. I actually don't know if I know anyone that prefers or likes your style/methodology of listening to music. Having auto curated or personalized playlists seems strange and entirely unappealing and I've never seen any time that this has actually prevailed any such desire upon me after trying such things.

Having said that, Swinsian does have options for folks who want some other facilities such as Last.fm, automated podcast downloading and maybe other things - but I don't use those.

And no, the UX of Music.app is NOT close to iTunes in some of the more refined and noticeable ways for - at least - many of us. Music.app has never been successful at bringing the full experience of "old" iTunes to macOS. It's heartbreaking really to have to resort to a third party app to get the old experience that was far beyond what Apple has done now, but it is what it is and I'm grateful to have an option beyond Retroactive - as valiant as Shawn Cormier has been in his efforts with Retroactive.

 

[Lord of the Pies]

Really? I do not stream (audio in terms of music listening) and no one I know streams audio. I listen to audio I've owned for a very long time and I use freely available music productions (that are up-to-date) and offered as podcasts by DJs and music producers and then run them through .cue splitters so I can rate songs and keep track of such. I have an enormous amount of variety and music - all to my taste and preference. I wouldn't dream of streaming anything - ever.

Again, I know many people who are precisely the same in their preferences. I actually don't know if I know anyone that prefers or likes your style/methodology of listening to music. Having auto curated or personalized playlists seems strange and entirely unappealing and I've never seen any time that this has actually prevailed any such desire upon me after trying such things.

Having said that, Swinsian does have options for folks who want some other facilities such as Last.fm, automated podcast downloading and maybe other things - but I don't use those.

And no, the UX of Music.app is NOT close to iTunes in some of the more refined and noticeable ways for - at least - many of us. Music.app has never been successful at bringing the full experience of "old" iTunes to macOS. It's heartbreaking really to have to resort to a third party app to get the old experience that was far beyond what Apple has done now, but it is what it is and I'm grateful to have an option beyond Retroactive - as valiant as Shawn Cormier has been in his efforts with Retroactive.

Isn't the audio quality of podcasts really poor? I follow some, mostly DJs with weekly playlists, that I listen to occasionally, and if there's something I like I locate it in Apple Music. Honestly it's not even great to listen to the music within the podcast due to such rough audio quality. If something seems good I'll skip to the next track, pause, and then play it on Apple Music.

Also, it seems like an incredible amount of effort for no clear reward and possibly dubious audio quality (especially when Apple Music has lossless).

Personalised playlists are the best part of the modern age of music. Probably the majority of stuff I listen to I discovered through personalised and curated playlists, or auto stations that continue at the end of a playlist and try to match the vibe. Algorithms have become extremely good at this. The first thing I do on a Friday, usually at midnight because I'm so excited for it, is play my Release Radar on Spotify and New Music Mix on Apple Music. More often than not, they're total bangers. The somewhat new Discovery Station in Apple Music is amazing too. A constant stream of mostly good new stuff.

 

[ylluminate]

Isn't the audio quality of podcasts really poor? I follow some, mostly DJs with weekly playlists, that I listen to occasionally, and if there's something I like I locate it in Apple Music. Honestly it's not even great to listen to the music within the podcast due to such rough audio quality. If something seems good I'll skip to the next track, pause, and then play it on Apple Music.

Also, it seems like an incredible amount of effort for no clear reward and possibly dubious audio quality (especially when Apple Music has lossless).

Personalised playlists are the best part of the modern age of music. Probably the majority of stuff I listen to I discovered through personalised and curated playlists, or auto stations that continue at the end of a playlist and try to match the vibe. Algorithms have become extremely good at this. The first thing I do on a Friday, usually at midnight because I'm so excited for it, is play my Release Radar on Spotify and New Music Mix on Apple Music. More often than not, they're total bangers. The somewhat new Discovery Station in Apple Music is amazing too. A constant stream of mostly good new stuff.

No. The podcasts I listen to are effectively lossless and come from SoundCloud. They even provide both MP3 and WAV for those who want lossless - and then also .cue files for splitting. I have about 10 years of productions from them - that is over 6 months (raw time calculation of tracks) of listening and high variability and I never tire of any of the options there due to the high variability and nice aural "wallpaper" it provides me for work. That is just one DJ/podcast. That's not to mention my own music collections from over the decades from other music I've purchased in the way of discs, etc.

Frankly I find very little music desirable today - as most folks I know. If artists don't come from a few DJs or producers then I simply don't listen to them since I don't like them. Music has gone into the trash.

Having said that, I am finding I quite like some of the AI music options and have started listening to AI generated music as that has similar and incredible qualities when prompted properly. I'm highly impressed with how far beyond most musicians the content I have generated and/or found is. I suppose there is a matter of taste going on, but my circles of friends and family all share similar tastes.

Again, personalized playlists are of zero value to me. I don't like them and have not liked them when I've tried them. I don't know anyone, in real life, that actually likes these. Sorry - different strokes for different folks.

 

[Lord of the Pies]

No. The podcasts I listen to are effectively lossless and come from SoundCloud. They even provide both MP3 and WAV for those who want lossless - and then also .cue files for splitting. I have about 10 years of productions from them - that is over 6 months (raw time calculation of tracks) of listening and high variability and I never tire of any of the options there due to the high variability and nice aural "wallpaper" it provides me for work. That's not to mention my own music collections from over the decades from other music I've purchased in the way of discs, etc.

Frankly I find very little music desirable today - as most folks I know. If artists don't come from a few DJs or producers then I simply don't listen to them since I don't like them. Music has gone into the trash.

Having said that, I am finding I quite like some of the AI music options and have started listening to AI generated music as that has similar and incredible qualities when prompted properly. I'm highly impressed with how far beyond most musicians the content I have generated and/or found is. I suppose there is a matter of taste going on, but my circles of friends and family all share similar tastes.

Again, personalized playlists are of zero value to me. I don't like them and have not liked them when I've tried them. I don't know anyone, in real life, that actually likes these. Sorry - different strokes for different folks.

You're reinforcing the need for music streaming though. The problem is not there isn't incredible new music coming out constantly - it's that a relatively small group of popular artists (with a hefty chunk being pop, hip hop, mumble rap etc.) are pushed hard by mainstream labels and dominate the news and charts.

With the benefit of unlimited access to basically everything available, tons of curated indie playlists and playlists for every genre imaginable, and algorithms that quickly adapt to your tastes, you get better exposed to the humungous world of music and the countless artists who publish their own music or who are published by indie labels.

I have classical music playing most of the time I'm working, and Apple has a dedicated Classical app for the classical side of Apple Music. Another godsend of their service. I couldn't imagine paying for all those albums, or even knowing about them. And I expect that would apply to other genres.

 

[ylluminate]

You're reinforcing the need for music streaming though. The problem is not there isn't incredible new music coming out constantly - it's that a relatively small group of popular artists (with a hefty chunk being pop, hip hop, mumble rap etc.) are pushed hard by mainstream labels and dominate the news and charts.

With the benefit of unlimited access to basically everything available, tons of curated indie playlists and playlists for every genre imaginable, and algorithms that quickly adapt to your tastes, you get better exposed to the humungous world of music and the countless artists who publish their own music or who are published by indie labels.

I have classical music playing most of the time I'm working, and Apple has a dedicated Classical app for the classical side of Apple Music. Another godsend of their service. I couldn't imagine paying for all those albums, or even knowing about them. And I expect that would apply to other genres.

I think we have completely diametrically opposed perspectives here. I entirely disagree that I am logically reinforcing that concept. I also disagree with you that there is a lot of good new music being produced. I actually *DO* listen to new music - regularly - and I do not like most of it. I do find the small artists through my carefully selected and culled discovery venues.

Interestingly I have family members that produce music and are in the niche you're referring to, essentially, and I yet still don't agree with the need for music streaming and discovery services as they presently exist.

Anyway, I think at this point we have veered so far off topic here that our discussion is no longer carrying value to this thread. If you want to talk about this more, let's take it to private discussion.

 

[nortonandreev]

Beta 2 has build of 141, compared to 107 in beta 1.

I feel like they have increased the whitespace between sections in the Browse tab.

The album preview view also seems to be tweaked – looks to me as if the artwork appears bigger?

To be honest, with each release I see small tweaks like font size and stuff, but none of it actually dramatically enhances the experience. Looks like they are focusing on what is easy, rather than what is useful.

 

[Slix]

Has anyone tried syncing with older iPods (Classic, Shuffle, nano, mini, touch) yet? Does Sequoia improve the Finder showing the iPods in a timely manner, syncing taking forever, the AMP devices processes getting stuck and needing a restart, album art not syncing, or any of the other assorted issues that iPod syncing has had in the last couple years?

 

[TonyM42]

There are far too many things to explain @Lord of the Pies. I have utilized Retroactive (successfully) for years and on into macOS 14 for the past year, but when I discovered Swinsian 3 beta (using: Version 3.0 Preview 15 (597) available from https://swinsian.com/sparkle_beta/sparklecast.xml), every single pain point has been addressed. I've been using OSX / macOS for 23 years and iTunes was really good, but started to decline. Music.app was irrevocably damaged when I started to use it and when I have tried to use it over the past some years. Again, I don't care to elucidate the whys thereof (there are enough of those all over creation and you can see that a LOT of folks feel the same via Retroactive posts), but I simply can say I'm grateful that James, the developer of Swinsian, has done such an outstanding job at bringing the spirit of iTunes back to us.

I hadn't heard of Swinson 3 until reading this thread, so gave it a try ... I found it somewhat 'old fashioned' and think it made me realise that I have now pretty much got my Apple Music the way I like after a lot of false starts and re-entering lost tracks. My only regret is that Apple still haven't brought back the rescaleable cover images (adjustable grid) that iTunes had.

 

[MBAir2010]

's "music" app is the main reason why i went back to Mountain Lion and use 2012 computers only.

 

[ErikGrim]

iTunes is no longer showing my devices in the left hand column, but it still shows up in the drop down menu. Means my preferred method of syncing is dead

 

[galad]

The playlist view is improved, less buggy (hover effects that got stuck), and faster to draw.

 

[tenjikuronin]

edit: wrong thread, today is not my day

 

[canyelles]

They have introduced new bugs in this version.
I edit metadata for an album in the recently added window (edit: not limited to recently added)
If you select the first track using Get Info, edit it and move on to the next, you might be at some other track or even a track in a different album