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wizard

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They wouldn't need that to add ports. They could just have stopped with the rounding in the last couple of centimeters of the taper. It still woldn't be a MacBook. The thing is, all those ports missing is the result of the extreme (as in "at the end") rounding in that last centimeter. Don't kid yourself, those centimetres is what is causing the concessions and the enormous bezel.

What you describe is a box that was designed and then the electronics added. This is pretty much what one Apple employee is quoted to have said. That is the box was designed by Ive's and Job's and the electronics stuffed in afterwards. This is what I see as AIR's fundamental flaw, a little thought would have gone long way with respect to what AIR needed to support.

I suppose this isn't exactly uncommon in the computer industry as many a desktop has been designed around a ugly looking box simply to gather sales based on the boxes appearance. The problem is that even these fancy boxes have at their heart the same sorts of motherboards that the standard cubed PC has. So even if you are paying a little extra for the box you at least have a good compliment of I/O. This is not the case at all with AIR.

In any event I don't see pointing out these things to readers of these threads as being negative at all. Rather I hope that future purchasers can make informed decisions with respect to the machine they choose. All the cheerleading aside it is important that people be happy with their purchases, the best way for that to happen is that people be informed and have a balanced view of the product.
 

Tosser

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Jan 15, 2008
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Yup Wizard, that's exactly what I meant (that the box was designed, then they took a look at what might fit).

Excellent post, Wizard. :)
 

wizard

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If it doesn't cut the mustard, then why do people bitch? Just buy another laptop.

For one thing we are not bitching. We are simply pointing out that some of the cheerleaders here have points which are one point of view and those points can be taken in a manner that is 180 degrees away from what the cheerleading crowd would have many to believe here. It is simply a matter of providing balance.

Dave
 

cedar

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Feb 2, 2008
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What you describe is a box that was designed and then the electronics added. This is pretty much what one Apple employee is quoted to have said. That is the box was designed by Ive's and Job's and the electronics stuffed in afterwards. This is what I see as AIR's fundamental flaw, a little thought would have gone long way with respect to what AIR needed to support.

I suppose this isn't exactly uncommon in the computer industry as many a desktop has been designed around a ugly looking box simply to gather sales based on the boxes appearance. The problem is that even these fancy boxes have at their heart the same sorts of motherboards that the standard cubed PC has. So even if you are paying a little extra for the box you at least have a good compliment of I/O. This is not the case at all with AIR.

In any event I don't see pointing out these things to readers of these threads as being negative at all. Rather I hope that future purchasers can make informed decisions with respect to the machine they choose. All the cheerleading aside it is important that people be happy with their purchases, the best way for that to happen is that people be informed and have a balanced view of the product.

God, I'll bet Steve Jobs wishes he had all of that knowledge and wisdom that you are sharing with us idiots.
 

BongoBanger

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Feb 5, 2008
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God, I'll bet Steve Jobs wishes he had all of that knowledge and wisdom that you are sharing with us idiots.

He will do when the sales figures come in.

Anyway, the real question is this - why are the fanboys (like cedar and ctt1wbw) still posting in this topic?

Unless they're just trolling of course.
 

shadowmatt

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The form is always designed first, then the parts squeezed in. That how design works and should work. The designer has a set bunch of parameters he must work within. Smallest HD size, scree size. Then the engineers "engineer" a board to fit the design.

The engineers would not have had a say in the ports going on the board, or the lack of CD. Those decisions would be made before they got involved.

Much like a Ferrari, the look isnt designer around the engine and suspension. The engine in engineered to fit into the design of the car.

There are always changes to the original design, called revisions, most of which come up one the engineers have got involved. But you start with the best design and make sacrifices when its needed.
 

cedar

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Feb 2, 2008
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He will do when the sales figures come in.

Anyway, the real question is this - why are the fanboys (like cedar and ctt1wbw) still posting in this topic?

Unless they're just trolling of course.

Yep, just trolling away, keeping up with the latest profound thoughts of the intelligentsia.
 

gcmexico

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Dec 22, 2007
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Thanks for seeing my point of view

I think he was talking about redundancy and relevance. A guy goes into an Apple store, jiggles the keys for five minutes and decides it not what he wants, needs, can afford, or any combination of the above. I guess he is asking "what is this guy adding to the universe of knowledge?" That is like backing a BMW out of a parking space and writing a review on what's wrong with the car. His point was, yes the guy has a right to express his opinion, insignificant as it was, but does it seem important enough to deserve a new thread when an identical one exists here? I think not. Now if the guy had gone through three Air's, like one poster did, with all of them having defects, then that would deserve a separate thread and I would certainly be interested in reading what he had to say and what he experienced.

But that's just my opinion. By the way, I jiggled around with the Pro and Blackbook a little in the store, but I'm not going on their forum and share my views as to why I didn't buy those units. To be frank, the readers there probably wouldn't give a tinker's damn as to my shallow review.

I was going a little crazy with all the back and forth...but at least someone sees my point of view..you might not agree totally, which is understand but you see where I am coming from...much appreciated:)
 

ctt1wbw

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Jan 17, 2008
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He will do when the sales figures come in.

Anyway, the real question is this - why are the fanboys (like cedar and ctt1wbw) still posting in this topic?

Unless they're just trolling of course.

Why are you worried aboutit, putz? And why are YOU posting here, if you're not a fanboy and a troll? And I'm not a troll. Get over it. And aren't you late for third period English?
 

BongoBanger

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Feb 5, 2008
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I think it's because you're complaining about people who are unhappy with the Air in a topic for people who are... err... unhappy with the Air.

Does hypocrisy come naturally to you or did you study hard to get to this level, little troll?
 

ctt1wbw

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Jan 17, 2008
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No, it comes naturally. I deal with losers on a daily basis. It's just too easy, little troll. Get back under your bridge overpass.
 
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