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kanon14

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I do not undertand why you need to be a an owner to have the right to critise a product, if anything you find yourself defensive of your choice. Everyone has the right to question a product, owner or not.

I for one own a 12" model and the Air is step backwards for me. I would have loved a 12" powerbook pro to have come out. I still consider the last 12" as the best powerbook made, brilliant.

I never used a 12" powerbook but I think the Air is the best notebook I've owned so far
 

BornAgainMac

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I touched one the other day but didn't notice any scratches. It was more impressed after I tried it. I don't know if I would use it like a regular Mac and use iPhoto, Garageband, iMovie, iTunes, etc. It would be a iWork / Safari / Email tool for me if I was traveling.
 

BongoBanger

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Notice how the Air Haters think they can say whatever the **** they want and then call everyone else who likes the Air either "suckers", "idiots", or "fanboys"? And then when people who like the Air tell them to **** off, the Air Haters say they have the right to post their opinion, of which nobody gives a flying frog **** about? I post in about 4 forums and it's the same thing everywhere. It gets tiresome.

Notice how you never have anything positive to say at all.
 

ma2ha3

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MACBOOK AIR (HOT STUNNING PERSON)=======MACBOOK PRO (FAT UGLY PERSON)

Macbook Air - size 0 models who starve themselves everyday type of person

Macbook pro - olympic athelete with muscle type of person

DELL XPS gaming - fat ugly person
 

gcmexico

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Did you not read this whole thread??

Its a freakin forum! Until you comprehend that concept....move along or harden up. If you want people tell you how freaking great the AIR is, go to http://www.google.com and look up Macbook AIR fan site....otherwise deal with the fact that some people love it and some hate it. For every annoying AIR hater, there is a just an annoying AIR lover!

Don't like the negative feedback....don't read it!!!

And BTW I have never, ever....seen mac fanboys slamming Vista, give and take. /sarcasm off. I have slammed both PC and Apple products.

In the end its a personal opinion. Noone in this thread has called someone an idiot or sucker for getting the AIR, they have raised issues and personal opinions, its actually the AIR lovers that have been arrogant and rude in the reponces....abusing the people who dare question the new MBA. Anger management course maybe???

Or did you just want to speak your mind??? I'm not going to repeat what has been said...but the point is that there are countless threads about disappointments with the MBA, why start a new one?? And why *itch when you don't own one?? Owners respond because they can't understand why people need to lash out at every new Apple product, like Steve is making products to fit YOUR needs...I can guarantee you there are more threads on hating the AIR by those that don't own than praising by those that do own...before you give your 2 cents read to see what the issue is....this forum is about Apple news and products...not about hating Apple products

I stick with my original theory "I'm not saying all of you complainers can't afford it, but most that cry usually can't afford to buy":cool:
 

Sedulous

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My oh my, the post is just an opinion. Chill out. 'Tis a rumor site after all.
 

MH01

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Or did you just want to speak your mind??? I'm not going to repeat what has been said...but the point is that there are countless threads about disappointments with the MBA, why start a new one?? And why *itch when you don't own one?? Owners respond because they can't understand why people need to lash out at every new Apple product, like Steve is making products to fit YOUR needs...I can guarantee you there are more threads on hating the AIR by those that don't own than praising by those that do own...before you give your 2 cents read to see what the issue is....this forum is about Apple news and products...not about hating Apple products

I stick with my original theory "I'm not saying all of you complainers can't afford it, but most that cry usually can't afford to buy":cool:

Very elitest attitude there, the poor knocking the AIR cause they cannot afford it. Very very very shallow way of looking at it, here is a laptop that has sacrificed alot of features due to its ultraportability and your consider the people who raise issues are a jealous lot who cannot afford one. Arrogant!!!! I actually see them as smart buyers that are analysing a product instead of wanting a fashion accessory. This is a Mac site, most people here are mac users, they can afford one...its not the $$ its the features and who the laptop is aimed at that they question.

As an example, One USB....is this so perfect that people cannot question it??? If you call the haters, poor jealous buggers who cannot afford one, I call the owners arrogant snobs.....in truth I think that the % or poor/snobs is actually very very low. Those who bought it consider it to fit thier needs, those who question it have reservations and are voicing them.
 

ctt1wbw

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Trolls are people who own an item that they spend countless hours griping about. Trolls are people who criticize those who own those items. I myself own a Macbook Air. I criticize the criticizers.
 

tstarks33

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Trolls are people who own an item that they spend countless hours griping about. Trolls are people who criticize those who own those items. I myself own a Macbook Air. I criticize the criticizers.

Maybe you're new to the internet, but that's not what a troll is/does.
 

ctt1wbw

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Maybe you're new to the internet, but that's not what a troll is/does.

No, not really. My first online experience was at 300 baud on an Apple //c where you had to get to the prompt and type ATDT. If you remember what that stood for. Dude, I'm 38.
 

queshy

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I don't know why there's so much hate for the machine...let's see...if we were to put an optical drive in the air, obviously they'd have to make it thicker (obviously). Once they have the added thickness, they obviously have more room for other stuff...like another USB port, firewire, ethernet perhaps. Oh, but wait, then what do we have....a MACBOOK!
 

MH01

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this is why people are hating on the haters!

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/437937/

is there no way to combine these threads?:mad:

I fail to see your point, Have you read that thread?

Let me summarise for you, Someone posts thier opinion about the AIR, what he dislikes and what he likes, states it is not for them, then BAM....he gets flamed straight away, and the arguements begin.

Why the **** are you considerd a hater as soon as you post your opinon, and state that that it is not for you???? Are AIR owners that sensative, fanatical Apple followers that cannot handle any citisism about thier product?

I have a Powerbook 12", G4, Macbook pro, every gen Ipod made, Itouch, Iphone, and a bunch of accessories. I consider the Iphone Bluetooth, mighty mouse and apple headphone (in ear) absolute rubbish, and I own all of them!

No product is perfect. Quick summary of my products and my opinion

Powerbook 12" - Annoyed as hell that the Superdrive has died twice now, and that I cannot run an external HD off 1 USB

3rd Gen IPOD - official apple firmware update killed it after it was out of warranty

Iphone - Excellent internet device, great Ipod, lacking phone functionality

Macbook pro (1st gen) - Screen, superdrive and HD died in the first year.

And though i had my issues with these I still love them, but by no means are they perfect.
 

cedar

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I fail to see your point, Have you read that thread?

Let me summarise for you, Someone posts thier opinion about the AIR, what he dislikes and what he likes, states it is not for them, then BAM....he gets flamed straight away, and the arguements begin.

Why the **** are you considerd a hater as soon as you post your opinon, and state that that it is not for you???? Are AIR owners that sensative, fanatical Apple followers that cannot handle any citisism about thier product?
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I think he was talking about redundancy and relevance. A guy goes into an Apple store, jiggles the keys for five minutes and decides it not what he wants, needs, can afford, or any combination of the above. I guess he is asking "what is this guy adding to the universe of knowledge?" That is like backing a BMW out of a parking space and writing a review on what's wrong with the car. His point was, yes the guy has a right to express his opinion, insignificant as it was, but does it seem important enough to deserve a new thread when an identical one exists here? I think not. Now if the guy had gone through three Air's, like one poster did, with all of them having defects, then that would deserve a separate thread and I would certainly be interested in reading what he had to say and what he experienced.

But that's just my opinion. By the way, I jiggled around with the Pro and Blackbook a little in the store, but I'm not going on their forum and share my views as to why I didn't buy those units. To be frank, the readers there probably wouldn't give a tinker's damn as to my shallow review.
 

Tosser

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I don't know why there's so much hate for the machine...let's see...if we were to put an optical drive in the air, obviously they'd have to make it thicker (obviously). Once they have the added thickness, they obviously have more room for other stuff...like another USB port, firewire, ethernet perhaps. Oh, but wait, then what do we have....a MACBOOK!

They wouldn't need that to add ports. They could just have stopped with the rounding in the last couple of centimeters of the taper. It still woldn't be a MacBook. The thing is, all those ports missing is the result of the extreme (as in "at the end") rounding in that last centimeter. Don't kid yourself, those centimetres is what is causing the concessions and the enormous bezel.
 

t0mat0

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I think he was talking about redundancy and relevance.

His point was, yes the guy has a right to express his opinion, insignificant as it was, but does it seem important enough to deserve a new thread when an identical one exists here? I think not.

There are several threads. It's bad forum form to make your own thread purely to say something that could easily have been incorporated on vibrant threads already running on the MacBook Air.

Also it pays mention to the rules of the site

You can't go ooooh Here's a new redundant thread, with an opinion I garnered from playing with it for 5 minutes, but "don't flame me"... That's just flamebait right there...


Minor Problems, #4, Help in Macrumors Forums:

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" 4. One thread. Do not post a thread more than once. Post a new thread in the proper forum. If the topic is relevant to more than one forum, pick the best fit or most specific forum and post it only once. "
To be honest the thread should have been reported at the start, to get the user's valid input into a more relevant alreayd running thread.
 

wizard

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I don't know why there's so much hate for the machine...let's see...
That is because what you are calling hate isn't hate, many are simply expressing here how inconceivable it is that Apple could have introduced such a machine. A machine that only needs minor changes to become a much more functional unit. AIR could have had a much wider appeal with a few simple design changes.
if we were to put an optical drive in the air, obviously they'd have to make it thicker (obviously). Once they have the added thickness, they obviously have more room for other stuff...like another USB port, firewire, ethernet perhaps. Oh, but wait, then what do we have....a MACBOOK!
This is the sort of garbage that tend to simply inflame people as it show a complete lack of ability to conceive a finer machine. For example Audio in could have been added to the AIR in its current mechanical design simply by using the plug and socket used on the iPhone. As to other I/O such as Firewire or another USB slot that simply should have been addressed early in the design. Mechanically it wouldn't take much at all and the USB port is free electrically with the chip set.

In any event if you where to actually walk into an Apple store you would see that the AIR isn't that much different in size than the MacBook. Thiner in places yes, but space for ports isn't exactly lacking. For people calling this an ultra mobile I have to offer up that it really isn't. Rather it is a light weight wide screen laptop. As a laptop it comes up short in many ways.

In any event that is not hate, it is simply looking at what Apple built and realizing that it doesn't cut the mustard for most of us. The frustration comes from not the machine but the stupid design decisions that went into it. AIR could have been so much more useful with some thought into how it would be used.

Dave
 
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