My Disappointments in the Macbook Air

[LizKat]

Ho about instead you keep this nonsense to yourself. Especially the concept of an ultraportable which AIR isn't if you even had a clue in that direction. As to cost there is such a thing as gouging and it is one thing people have a right to protest against. His assertion that AIR is about worth $1000 dollars is right on the mark.

Dave

Gouging? Gouging is charging extra for items in high demand after a hurricane goes through your town. Batteries, ice, water...

Are you suggesting that the MacBook Air is in such high demand that Apple has made the price artificially high to suppress the demand for it?

One may disparage something by saying it's "worth" only this or that, but money on the barrelhead is the voice actually heard in the marketplace.

 

[Lucy Brown]

So where does the air card go on this ultra portable laptop? lol

 

[MH01]

Gouging? Gouging is charging extra for items in high demand after a hurricane goes through your town. Batteries, ice, water...

Are you suggesting that the MacBook Air is in such high demand that Apple has made the price artificially high to suppress the demand for it?

One may disparage something by saying it's "worth" only this or that, but money on the barrelhead is the voice actually heard in the marketplace.

English lessons is it?

The example you give is only one of the definitions.

Nowdays (most common use), Price gouging refers to pricing above the market price when no alternative retailer is available. And in this Example, if you want a ultraportable Mac, you have no choice to go with 1. Apple 2. with the AIR. So yes you can argue that Apple is price gouging cause it has put a HIGH price on its ultraportable laptop and if you want to Run OSX on an ultraportable....guess what there is only 1.

 

[cedar]

English lessons is it?

The example you give is only one of the definitions.

Nowdays (most common use), Price gouging refers to pricing above the market price when no alternative retailer is available. And in this Example, if you want a ultraportable Mac, you have no choice to go with 1. Apple 2. with the AIR. So yes you can argue that Apple is price gouging cause it has put a HIGH price on its ultraportable laptop and if you want to Run OSX on an ultraportable....guess what there is only 1.

You need to take a good economics course.

 

[killerwhack]

First Encounter with MBA

Took the wife on a date to Pasadena Old Town (hereto forth known as "Old Pasadena") where there is an Apple Store. Stopped in to take a look at what everybody is chattering about.

It is a nice machine. Build quality is good. The machines in the store were very crowded around and the machines appear to be holding up well.

All I have to say is that if you are a road warrior or a high level exec who carries around a machine all day to attend meetings, it is an ideal machine.

I believe we will have to see how the sales perform through the next buying cycle. I will take, Possibly, two years before we know if the machine is a hit or not.

JMHO

 

[MH01]

You need to take a good economics course.

Will this course explain that words in the english language can have multiple meanings, depending on the context they are used in? Or will this course change my view on the fact that apple is the only manafacurer that produces an ultraportable that runs OSX, and therefore apple can set any price they see fit...due to no other competition in the same product segment???

I thought apply common sense was enough....seems not...

 

[cedar]

Will this course explain that words in the english language can have multiple meanings, depending on the context they are used in? Or will this course change my view on the fact that apple is the only manafacurer that produces an ultraportable that runs OSX, and therefore apple can set any price they see fit...due to no other competition in the same product segment???

I thought apply common sense was enough....seems not...

That's like saying Toyota is the only car-maker that uses Toyota engines, therefore they can charge anything they want for their cars. To accuse Apple of price gouging for what they charge for the Air is over the top. It's a free market and I would dare say that laptops are not normally considered as one of the necessities of life that one must have to survive, although some might argue that.

 

[kieranquirke]

Example your "Opinion" up above, " Although IMO it isn't worth the money right now".

What does that say? You are telling people on the forum they wasted their money. That's not an opinion, that's a direct shot at the MBA owners on the forum.

This is probably the most ridiculous post I've yet seen on these forums and that's saying something - of course it's an opinion!

Hilarious, as is the suggestion in an earlier post that if you don't like the mac book air you should keep it to yourself. Because stating that would be trolling. That's right, trolling - I mean, how could anyone write about their disappointments with the macbookair - why, they must clearly be attempting to provoke an argument!

 

[gcmexico]

there's some confusion

This is probably the most ridiculous post I've yet seen on these forums and that's saying something - of course it's an opinion!

Hilarious, as is the suggestion in an earlier post that if you don't like the mac book air you should keep it to yourself. Because stating that would be trolling. That's right, trolling - I mean, how could anyone write about their disappointments with the macbookair - why, they must clearly be attempting to provoke an argument!

Apple fanatics aren't complaining about the criticizing of the Air, it's just like DAMN enough is enough, an easy search on this site will give you countless threads about disappointments, why not post your disappointments there, why start a whole new thread...GEEZ

the girly comments are just stupid...in my opinion

 

[dthree36]

I wouldn't expect everyone, Mac owner or PC owner, to like the air. If you have used it and don't like it, then that is your opinion and you have that right. For those who like if for what it is worth, then great, perhaps you will purchase one.

It works for me and I am comfortable with the insane amount of money that I spent on the AIR even though I could have spent it on a Windows machine, or MBP that may have been slightly bigger/small and had every port and drive imaginable.

Its not for everyone.

 

[mtk75]

I wish the would stop making them........





So I could have it all to myself

Not yet! Wait until mine ships, then they can stop...

 

[Macmanus]

Apple fanatics aren't complaining about the criticizing of the Air, it's just like DAMN enough is enough, an easy search on this site will give you countless threads about disappointments, why not post your disappointments there, why start a whole new thread...GEEZ

the girly comments are just stupid...in my opinion

What is that ? An Apple-sponsored forum ? What are you people insane or what ? Why in the world you always say that someone that doesn't like an Apple product is a troll ?

Please, make things clear. Either it's an Apple-sponsored forum, and you're supposed to like everything Apple, and NEVER, I repeat, NEVER criticize a product or a software from them. OR, you should have an official right to criticize without being considered as a troll and hence banned.

All this makes me think that far from being a demonstration of freedom, Internet is just another totalitarian space, each site and forum are just being small islands of intolerance.

IMHO of course.

As for the "girly product" I'll second that it's an irrelevant remark. All Apple products are "girly" in the sense that they are "designed" to please the eye. And that goes for other products of our era too, not just computers, cars for example (in France, the Twingo model was one of a kind, not a real man's car for sure )

 

[wizard]

Took the wife on a date to Pasadena Old Town (hereto forth known as "Old Pasadena") where there is an Apple Store. Stopped in to take a look at what everybody is chattering about.

Did her eyes roll up when you decided to walk into the Apple store? I just can't imagine an Apple store being a successful dating spot wife or not.

It is a nice machine. Build quality is good. The machines in the store were very crowded around and the machines appear to be holding up well.

Honestly I never see much of a crowd around the machines at our local Apple store. But then again I'm living in one very economically depressed area.

All I have to say is that if you are a road warrior or a high level exec who carries around a machine all day to attend meetings, it is an ideal machine.

I hardly ever see an executive carrying around a laptop all day. Maybe to a meeting where he is a presenter but that is about it. I just don't see the demand for something like AIR in the executive segment of business. Especially considering you need a dongle to connect ot most video projectors.

Road warriors are another thing and the AIR could have been a very good machine for them. I still see it as slightly less than it needs to be for that segment.

I believe we will have to see how the sales perform through the next buying cycle. I will take, Possibly, two years before we know if the machine is a hit or not.

I think we will start to see signs in three to four months. After that people purchasing such a device should be doing so based on thoughtful consideration. AT that point we will find out if the limitations within AIR are too much of an issue for the buying public.

JMHO

The thing that bothers me about AIR is how long Apple will let is sit on the market before it addresses the devices short comings. I honestly believe it is possible to address the needs of many without significantly changing the machine. Apple in the past did so on things like the Mini by adding more USB ports on that machine. Even minor changes will iron out some kinks.

Dave

 

[wizard]

You need to take a good economics course.

Nope, he has a better grasp of the issue than you are displaying. Apple with AIR is just one example of corporations gouging consumers. The medical drug industry is well know to do so. Gouging can be understood to mean charging significantly more for a device than it cost to manufacture & market.

Now Apple is no where near as bad as the drug companies, but they are not exactly winning any friends either. You may not have a concern, but just wait till you age a bit and need to fill prescriptions regularly. If you live near a border it can be very mind expanding to see how screwed up the medical industry is and yes the gouging that takes place.

Dave

 

[Macmanus]

Nope, he has a better grasp of the issue than you are displaying. Apple with AIR is just one example of corporations gouging consumers. The medical drug industry is well know to do so. Gouging can be understood to mean charging significantly more for a device than it cost to manufacture & market.

Now Apple is no where near as bad as the drug companies, but they are not exactly winning any friends either. You may not have a concern, but just wait till you age a bit and need to fill prescriptions regularly. If you live near a border it can be very mind expanding to see how screwed up the medical industry is and yes the gouging that takes place.

Dave

+1

Check this out :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_gouging

 

[MRU]

MY BATTERY IS FIXED!!!

Sorted itself out eventually. Now takes around 3 hours to charge from empty.

That was my only disappointment with the MBA. Now it's seemingly ok I'm delighted again.

Very quiet, no fan noise, no HDD click, more than enough power for my laptop needs, great even screen with no dead pixels, cool as a cucumber temperature wise..

I'm in laptop heaven at last

 

[cedar]

Nope, he has a better grasp of the issue than you are displaying. Apple with AIR is just one example of corporations gouging consumers. The medical drug industry is well know to do so. Gouging can be understood to mean charging significantly more for a device than it cost to manufacture & market.

Now Apple is no where near as bad as the drug companies, but they are not exactly winning any friends either. You may not have a concern, but just wait till you age a bit and need to fill prescriptions regularly. If you live near a border it can be very mind expanding to see how screwed up the medical industry is and yes the gouging that takes place.

Dave

Dave, this is America. Read "supply and demand". And I love all of you economic experts who advocate price controls. If folks like you had control of the economy we would still be using 2 ton computers. You don't really have to have a cutting-edge, cute little laptop. It's not a necessity of life. If you can't afford it or think you are being ripped off: simple solution, don't buy the damned thing. Buy a competitor's machine, or wait until supply and demand has a chance to kick in. It always does.

 

[Wild-Bill]

Buy a competitor's machine, or wait until supply and demand has a chance to kick in. It always does.

Economies of scale FTW!

By this time next year we will all be scoffing about how much the SSD drives "used to" cost.

 

[angrygolfer]

What is that ? An Apple-sponsored forum ? What are you people insane or what ? Why in the world you always say that someone that doesn't like an Apple product is a troll ?

Please, make things clear. Either it's an Apple-sponsored forum, and you're supposed to like everything Apple, and NEVER, I repeat, NEVER criticize a product or a software from them. OR, you should have an official right to criticize without being considered as a troll and hence banned.

All this makes me think that far from being a demonstration of freedom, Internet is just another totalitarian space, each site and forum are just being small islands of intolerance.

IMHO of course.

As for the "girly product" I'll second that it's an irrelevant remark. All Apple products are "girly" in the sense that they are "designed" to please the eye. And that goes for other products of our era too, not just computers, cars for example (in France, the Twingo model was one of a kind, not a real man's car for sure )

I'll have to second this. There are just as many posts of people expressing their undying love for the MBA so why is it a problem to post your dislikes.

If you don't like it then ignore the thread and move on.

 

[DesignerOnMac]

So being an man....

A walked in the apple store today hoping to admire the sexiness of the macbook air, but was unfortunately enormously disappointed. It couldn't have been there for more than a week, and every one i looked at the top (ie when lid is closed) had a scratched and faded finish. I couldn't believe it, it was ugly and repulsive.

Tinkering with the interwebz, , when i went to tap the click button let's just say, "I missed". I hit the touchpad...and this didn't happen once but multiple times. That annoyed me, because I saw what they were trying to do with making the pad bigger...but it was clearly too small. When you clicked it too it just felt ackward. I don't know if one is able to get used to it or not but you know.

Closing the air, it also felt a little flimsy. The lightness was really cool though. I get the air thing - It is ideal for the nice tiny sexy little woman wanting a fashion accessory i admit, but its not a mans machine. And the magnetic closing was NOT GOOD, YOU DO NOT WANT IT. It felt like if u put it in ur bag, any pressure would open it up. The old latch system on the pro was bad too, but they should just put a redesigned latch in the new MBP, cuz im sure that magnetic latch will fail eventually and its not good to begin with.

Be clairvoyant and ull see, its not gonna sell good and will flop. It is not worth 1799, especially since u need another computer to use with it anyway. 1000 tops

I DID LIKE a couple things though. The three finger scroll back/forward between pages thing was handy. For me personally, the black keyboard is for the win aesthetically wise. If they put the same keyboard in the pro, but "deeper in" and a little more "cushiony" then i'd be happy with it on the new pro im gonna buy. The tapered edges also were thumbs up.

1. Being a man means an unscratched and pristene outer surface.
2. Lugging a 5 lb laptop.
3. Men can not have a fashion accessory.

You obviously went into the Apple Store prepared to be disappointed. This machine is not for you, but decided to create yet another disappointed thread.

Buy the machine that works for you, but save us from another 'Disappointed" thread! Thank you!

 

[BongoBanger]

Buy the machine that works for you, but save us from another 'Disappointed" thread! Thank you!

Fine, let's just have one appreciation thread then.

 

[cedar]

Fine, let's just have one appreciation thread then.

Reading the various threads on the Air, it has become obvious that there are a handful of individuals that have become compulsive Air haters. They post continuously, time after time, on most every thread. Early on, some folks posted that they were disappointed that Apple didn't address their specific wants or needs, and they moved on. Another handful stayed around, sharing their wisdom as to why all of the Air purchasers were stupid, misled compulsive buyers who paid too much, blah, blah, blah. Now if you actually bought an Air and you are disappointed, or if you are a potential buyer doing research, then this would seem a very valid forum to voice your questions and opinions. But for you folks that don't own one, yes you have the right to post here, but I have the right to post that you are becoming fairly tiresome and irrelevant, at least to me personally.

 

[skyrider007]

I don't like the MBA but I don't hate. It just don't "work" for me. Otherwise it's a well designed machine.

 

[Macmanus]

Fine, let's just have one appreciation thread then.

That's a good one !

I've checked the London Apple Store recently, and compared the MBA with the MB. Nothing special, really. Of course, I'm not a hip person, and I don't mind having a computer that is heavier than the MBA, if it means having an ethernet cable, a decent hard drive and NO other computer being necessary.

But I guess I must be a MBA hater.

 

[cedar]

That's a good one !

I've checked the London Apple Store recently, and compared the MBA with the MB. Nothing special, really. Of course, I'm not a hip person, and I don't mind having a computer that is heavier than the MBA, if it means having an ethernet cable, a decent hard drive and NO other computer being necessary.

But I guess I must be a MBA hater.

Hey, two examples in the same post.