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butterfly0fdoom

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You can bet if they do put 3g in the next version it will be ATT since Apple appears to be sleeping with them. I carry around a little sierra wireless 875 usb that works great when I need it.

HSPA's more globally accessible than EV-DO, as well (considering the spread of GSM vs CDMA adoption globally). With Verizon switching to LTE, GSM vs CDMA is swinging in GSM's favor in the future roadmap.
 

ddd269

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Jun 5, 2007
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This is what I posted on a different thread, that addresses some of these irresponsible posters.

I've had my MBA for about a week now and I love it. I haven't had any problems with my MBA. There have been posts about issues with the MBA (mostly battery, charging, and few other problems not worth mentioning).

I'm sure that many will agree with me when I say that for a 1st gen unit, this is an awesome computer. If you think about it, Apple has done a tremendous job at bringing these cutting edge devices - MBA, iPhone, to name a few.

It is expected and encouraged to post problems and issues when owners of such device encounter problems. That is why these forums exist.

What I can't stand are the comments of immature, non-constructive forum members (especially the non-owners). Comments such as "I would return it immediately, you would expect better for a $$$ machine" or "You should return the unit and wait until all bugs are fixed" or better yet "We should expect more from a company such as Apple"

They are free to express as they wish, but I think a certain discretion is required when posting. Comments about specific devices should be left to owners/users of such device and not to spectators, especially with negative comments.

It really ticks me off when I'm reading an interesting thread and I have to sift through the non-constructive, negative junk (about 70%).

Is it just me or do others feel like I do?


Why can't we just get along? :p
 

mhaas

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That depends on the individual, for you ultraportable is how thin a laptop is (though would a 15" MBA just as thin as the AIR be considered ultraportable?), for me is about how compact it is. Each to their own, personal preference.

In regards to a bag, I can put a 11" laptop in a bad that is only 11.5" :) , but if you always have a big bag, thinner can be better as it takes up less width, and fits better between books etc.

I think ultraportable refers more to the smallest screen you are prepared to have in a laptop. For some 11" is just too small, for some 13" is the perfect size, again personal perference. Also weight is a huge factor. its nice to put a laptop in a bag and not feel like u jsut put in a brick in it....

I think ultraportable simply refers to a combination of factors: the screen, the width, the weight, the higher price and a certain amount of compromises to achieve this.

A 10'' notebook that weighs as much as a 24'' iMac is not an ultraportable for me... The AIR is an ultraportable in my eyes, not just because of the width, but similarly because of the weight and the size, yes a Vaio TZ is smaller but the AIR is the most portable current notebook produced by Apple. The combination makes it a wherever-i-want-to-go-i-will-take-the-AIR-with-me machine and that describes an ultraportable for me.
 

fewture

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Jun 8, 2006
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its essentially a sexy word processor with internet

yep. like all those ultraportables that a large chunk of people (including business sector) are actually interested in buying and are willing to pay high prices for it.

Funny that...
 

gcmexico

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Dec 22, 2007
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This man is a member of the 'easily pleased by shiny objects club'.
If you call rather owning a Porsche with half the features of a Honda Civic member of the "shiny objects club"...then yep I'm a PROUD member:D

This is all crap! Most that complain are the ones that can't afford it...always has been always will be...I'm not saying all of you complainers can't afford it, but most that cry usually can't afford to buy

I belong to that club, but that's not why I like the Air :D

The Vaios and Dells are a lot shinier with all those ugly stickers and all. Their screens are a lot shinier, too. And that silver plastic on some of them? Very shiny. Much shinier, yes, but all-in-all harder to look at.

2 members on board!!!:cool:
 

Lucy Brown

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Feb 26, 2007
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An 1800 dollar web surfing maching? I dont get it. Whats the point of this thing. Total girly machine imo.
 

GfPQqmcRKUvP

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An 1800 dollar web surfing maching? I dont get it. Whats the point of this thing. Total girly machine imo.

Oh, look at you, trying to attract attention. How adorable.

Call it a girly, web-surfing machine all you want, the simple fact is that this is almost as powerful as the first generation Macbook Pro while being as thin as it is; It is hardly just a word processor.
 

iRx7fani

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Feb 27, 2007
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The Macbook Air is freakin slow, it doesn't have CD slot, and it doesn't have a gpu, and most of all is so damn girly! Will I buy one when the price drop a little? Hellz yea!
 

BongoBanger

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If you call rather owning a Porsche with half the features of a Honda Civic member of the "shiny objects club"...then yep I'm a PROUD member:D

This is all crap! Most that complain are the ones that can't afford it...always has been always will be...I'm not saying all of you complainers can't afford it, but most that cry usually can't afford to buy

Rubbish. I can afford both but choose not to because they don't suit me. Saying that people complain because they can't afford something is just silly. It's just opinion, that's all.
 

gcmexico

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Dec 22, 2007
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I agree...

Rubbish. I can afford both but choose not to because they don't suit me. Saying that people complain because they can't afford something is just silly. It's just opinion, that's all.

But I'm pretty sure you don't go around porsche sites and complain about the car...I assume u don't, that's what I'm trying to get at:cool:
 

BongoBanger

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But I'm pretty sure you don't go around porsche sites and complain about the car...I assume u don't, that's what I'm trying to get at:cool:

Yeah, I see what you mean but people should be allowed to say why they don't like something without being shouted down. There's no compulsion to read the thread after all.

Personally I don't get the Air but I'm not the world. Plenty of people will love it and, to be honest, it's pretty good at what it's intended to do.

Just not my cup of tea, that's all.

As for cedar. LOLno. Grow up please.
 

wizard

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May 29, 2003
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First let me say I'm disappointed with the AIR also but I don't see any rational complaint on your part below.

A walked in the apple store today hoping to admire the sexiness of the macbook air, but was unfortunately enormously disappointed. It couldn't have been there for more than a week, and every one i looked at the top (ie when lid is closed) had a scratched and faded finish. I couldn't believe it, it was ugly and repulsive.
Well yeah most machines loose their sexiness after a bit of use. This should not surprise you at all especially considering the number of people stop by Apple stores to do nothing but look at AIR. I wouldn't be surprised if that dirt couldn't be cleaned right off as it likely crud from a billion fingers.
Tinkering with the interwebz, , when i went to tap the click button let's just say, "I missed". I hit the touchpad...and this didn't happen once but multiple times. That annoyed me, because I saw what they were trying to do with making the pad bigger...but it was clearly too small. When you clicked it too it just felt ackward. I don't know if one is able to get used to it or not but you know.
So one button takes a bit of getting use to and all of a sudden the whole machine is no good?
Closing the air, it also felt a little flimsy. The lightness was really cool though. I get the air thing - It is ideal for the nice tiny sexy little woman wanting a fashion accessory i admit, but its not a mans machine.
Take a look at your first two paragraphs and then convince me that you are a man.
And the magnetic closing was NOT GOOD, YOU DO NOT WANT IT. It felt like if u put it in ur bag, any pressure would open it up.
Hmmm men carry brief cases?
The old latch system on the pro was bad too, but they should just put a redesigned latch in the new MBP, cuz im sure that magnetic latch will fail eventually and its not good to begin with.

Be clairvoyant and ull see, its not gonna sell good and will flop.
See here is where I have a problem, I'm not sure how well AIR will sell. What I do know is that Apple made some design and marketing decisions that will keep this machine from selling as well as it could. With a couple of modest changes I could have seen this Machine moving to Apples number one spot and possibly the best selling laptop ever. AIR got short changed instead and doesn't have it future secured.

It is not worth 1799, especially since u need another computer to use with it anyway. 1000 tops
I agree with the $1000 tops statement. Apple should be able to make a very good profit at that price.
I DID LIKE a couple things though. The three finger scroll back/forward between pages thing was handy. For me personally, the black keyboard is for the win aesthetically wise. If they put the same keyboard in the pro, but "deeper in" and a little more "cushiony" then i'd be happy with it on the new pro im gonna buy. The tapered edges also were thumbs up.
That is AIRS biggest problem lots of unique things to like about it. Those things are in vicious conflict with the things to hate about it.

Dave
 

wizard

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May 29, 2003
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How about you keep it to yourself. You've brought up the same stuff that's already been shot down along with a few ridiculous additions. You also have no idea what an ultraportable is and what they cost it seems.

Ho about instead you keep this nonsense to yourself. Especially the concept of an ultraportable which AIR isn't if you even had a clue in that direction. As to cost there is such a thing as gouging and it is one thing people have a right to protest against. His assertion that AIR is about worth $1000 dollars is right on the mark.

Dave
 

wizard

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May 29, 2003
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This is what I posted on a different thread, that addresses some of these irresponsible posters.

Why can't we just get along? :p

You know I read your quoted material and got the message that you are trying to bully people with defective machinery into not returning them or other wise seeking redress. So I have to ask why?

If somebody encourages another to suck it up and take a defective product back for replacement or upgrade is there anything really wrong with that? If any thing that is what I would expect out of such a forum.

This is pretty much good net citizenship if you ask me. It really doesn't matter iif it is an AIR or other Apple product you have the right to get what you expect. Actually you can take Apple right out of the equation as any supplier would and should be held to the same standard.

Your response just boggles my mind as I see nothing negative about being happy that something you purchased is working the way you expected. If your brand new car is motoring down the road and the transmission falls off and you end up stuck on the road what do you expect from the auto maker, the dealer or your friends. You certainly don't expect to be told to shut up about it!!! Which pretty much seems to be what you are trying to do here.

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Taken another way the new MBP should be with us soon. My suspicion is that they will deliver a lot of new technology and like all generation 1 devices there may be problems. Is it going to hurt your feelings if people talk about those problems? Really I want to know so that this is public record of your position. Further if they have problems that should be addressed under warranty or other customer satisfaction programs, are you going to try to hassle people that encourage them to get redress?

Thanks
Dave
 

Deanster

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Jun 6, 2005
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It's OK to be disappointed with the MBA. To each his own.

I'm not a big fan of the entire Macbook Pro line. IMHO, wildly overpriced relative to the upgrades from a Macbook, heavy, and the 17" is a freakin' aircraft carrier to lug around.

Ultraportable to me means anything under 4lbs, and significantly smaller than, say, a Macbook in one major dimension. I think we're all having trouble with the 'ultraportable' label, because most prior lightweight machines achieved that through reductions in length and width, defining the category.

For myself, what I want is a full-size keyboard and screen (my Macbook is an OK, but smallish screen, and great keyboard), and not much else. I need enough hard drive to carry some documents, and hold a few applications, but honestly, I could probably fit into a 20 gig drive if required.

I'd been trying to live off my iPhone when I travel, but the reality is that I just need more screen space and a real keyboard to do real work for more than a day or so. But the overall capability of the iPhone covers my away-from-desk needs quite well - it's just the input/output becomes a hassle for heavy use.

Similarly old G4 867 12" Powerbook handled my laptop tasks just fine with 640MB of RAM and a 40Gig hard drive. A 1.6 C2D CPU can handle the load just fine. I'm happy to toss the external optical drive into my checked luggage, just in case I need it.

Long story short, MBA meets my needs perfectly so far (though battery life could be better...). It's all the performance I had in my Rev A. BlackBook, in a package 60% the size. It is indeed a little pricey, and moving it from $1800 to $1500 would make it a no-brainer.

It's not for everyone, but an awful lot of people use their laptops like I do - email, MS Office, web, and an occasional dip into Photoshop/InDesign to make minor changes or do basic documents. MBA is a terrible choice for an only machine, or a road production machine, but it's an awesome 'real screen and keyboard in a minimum package'.
 

Sweetbike40

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Aug 29, 2007
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My appreciation

For the Air has just changed. I always liked it but really appreciate now after seeing a little Sony here at work. I'm seeing this little portable laptop and laughing at it because it looks silly. Looks like a Barbie toy!! MBA is in another league. The full size keyboard, to me, is an absolute need.
 
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