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elmo151

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My Disappointments in the Macbook Air

If you don't like it, there is no requirement that you buy it; or that you make what are essentially gratuitous comments based on 15 minutes of exposure and experience in a store.
 

cedar

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I remember when that computer was introduced. It was so light, powerful, and cool compared to other portable products at the time.

I drooled over it many a times. I wanted it so bad.

But unfortunately, at the time I could not afford it

Now that's a REAL man's machine.
 

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It is the first ALL wireless solution. What other laptop has more? Again you are wrong, the MBA does have more wireless capabilities than the MBP, did you forget about Remote Disk? That's only available on the AIR.

Are you serious....please think before posting. Remote disk....do you know how to share a DVD drive on a network right...which then can be accessed by any computer (laptop/desktop). And it is not exactly a wireless feature when you have to install the software on a 3rd party computer everywhere you go.

The "AIR" cannot refer to the MBA's wireless capabilities, cause it lacks behind the rest of the market without integrated 3G. And that is a fact. Whithout a Wifi hotspot or a near bye computer running your remote disk software...not a very Wireless solution is it???? That is when you have to bring out all your accessories....but then its not ultra porable anymore...

Anyway back to my initial point, The MBA is not an All wireless solution without integrated 3G. The iphone is more of an All wireless integrated solution.
 

kuwisdelu

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The "AIR" cannot refer to the MBA's wireless capabilities, cause it lacks behind the rest of the market without integrated 3G. And that is a fact. Whithout a Wifi hotspot or a near bye computer running your remote disk software...not a very Wireless solution is it???? That is when you have to bring out all your accessories....but then its not ultra porable anymore...

Anyway back to my initial point, The MBA is not an All wireless solution without integrated 3G. The iphone is more of an All wireless integrated solution.

So what about those of us without 3G capability who always happen to be around WiFi? I, for one, lag behind everyone's phones because I just get whatever I get free with my phone plan, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't have 3G, because I didn't even know what that was until everyone started complaining about it. However, I can always find WiFi, because it's pretty much everywhere. And I don't know why I would need remote disk while I'm on-the-go. I install software at home. So no accessories for me. Maybe I'm just not as hip as some of the people here, but it seems pretty wireless to me.
 

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How about you keep it to yourself. You've brought up the same stuff that's already been shot down along with a few ridiculous additions. You also have no idea what an ultraportable is and what they cost it seems.

The MBA Air is ultraportable???
Dman you Sony!!! You sold me an vaio VGN-TX3XP 11" and told me that it was ultraportable!!!! LIES!!! Off to Apple to get a true 13" ultraportable.
 

BongoBanger

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What is the point of this thread??? The MacAir rocks and is definitely a man's laptop..that tidbit was hysterical...what can be more manly than an expensive laptop that rocks!! I assume a cheap 10lb laptop for the original poster..lol:cool:

This man is a member of the 'easily pleased by shiny objects club'.
 

kuwisdelu

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The MBA Air is ultraportable???
Dman you Sony!!! You sold me an vaio VGN-TX3XP 11" and told me that it was ultraportable!!!! LIES!!! Off to Apple to get a true 13" ultraportable.

Yes, it's an ultraportable. I don't understand it with you people who claim nothing bigger than 12" is an ultraportable, because frankly, I can never recall a situation where footprint saved my life. I definitely know that thinness and weight make a lot of different when it's in my bag, though, and considering I've got papers and folders to bring around, any footprint bigger than pocket-sized and smaller than my bag isn't really going to make a difference. But the weight and thickness sure will. It's definitely an ultraportable. Just because it's a different kind of ultraportable is no reason to condemn it, and just because it goes about the idea in a different way doesn't make it or any other ultraportable more or less right in their interpretation. So I understand your situation may be different, but that doesn't make it any less of an ultraportable to many of us. Unless you can explain to me how a smaller footprint will save me the same amount of room in my bag that the Air's slender waistline will.
 

kuwisdelu

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This man is a member of the 'easily pleased by shiny objects club'.

I belong to that club, but that's not why I like the Air :D

The Vaios and Dells are a lot shinier with all those ugly stickers and all. Their screens are a lot shinier, too. And that silver plastic on some of them? Very shiny. Much shinier, yes, but all-in-all harder to look at.
 

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A walked in the apple store today hoping to admire the sexiness of the macbook air, but was unfortunately enormously disappointed. It couldn't have been there for more than a week, and every one i looked at the top (ie when lid is closed) had a scratched and faded finish. I couldn't believe it, it was ugly and repulsive.

Tinkering with the interwebz, , when i went to tap the click button let's just say, "I missed". I hit the touchpad...and this didn't happen once but multiple times. That annoyed me, because I saw what they were trying to do with making the pad bigger...but it was clearly too small. When you clicked it too it just felt ackward. I don't know if one is able to get used to it or not but you know.

Closing the air, it also felt a little flimsy. The lightness was really cool though. I get the air thing - It is ideal for the nice tiny sexy little woman wanting a fashion accessory i admit, but its not a mans machine. And the magnetic closing was NOT GOOD, YOU DO NOT WANT IT. It felt like if u put it in ur bag, any pressure would open it up. The old latch system on the pro was bad too, but they should just put a redesigned latch in the new MBP, cuz im sure that magnetic latch will fail eventually and its not good to begin with.

Be clairvoyant and ull see, its not gonna sell good and will flop. It is not worth 1799, especially since u need another computer to use with it anyway. 1000 tops

I DID LIKE a couple things though. The three finger scroll back/forward between pages thing was handy. For me personally, the black keyboard is for the win aesthetically wise. If they put the same keyboard in the pro, but "deeper in" and a little more "cushiony" then i'd be happy with it on the new pro im gonna buy. The tapered edges also were thumbs up.

Everyone is entitled to thier opinion.

Looks like the AIR is not for you. So be it. I too cannot find a place for it, though i hope that some of its features will arrive in the upcoming MBA Pro update. That is what i am hanging out for. I need to replace my old Powerbook.
 

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So what about those of us without 3G capability who always happen to be around WiFi? I, for one, lag behind everyone's phones because I just get whatever I get free with my phone plan, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't have 3G, because I didn't even know what that was until everyone started complaining about it. However, I can always find WiFi, because it's pretty much everywhere. And I don't know why I would need remote disk while I'm on-the-go. I install software at home. So no accessories for me. Maybe I'm just not as hip as some of the people here, but it seems pretty wireless to me.

You must not leave the city much, or travel abroad. In that case you would not care about 3G, but once you do, you will realise how useful 3G is. Though as a whole without 3G, the AIR is behind the rest of the market as a True wireless laptop, in other words the other manafacures have laptops that are better wireless machines.

And given that you stated that you would not need remore dish while on-the-go, how is the MBA air an ALL wireless solution again? On-the-go, it is not more wireless then any other laptop on the market, and lacking behind laptops with 3G. (most places you can get a phone signal).
 

MazingerZ

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You must not leave the city much, or travel abroad. In that case you would not care about 3G, but once you do, you will realise how useful 3G is. Though as a whole without 3G, the AIR is behind the rest of the market as a True wireless laptop, in other words the other manafacures have laptops that are better wireless machines.

And given that you stated that you would not need remore dish while on-the-go, how is the MBA air an ALL wireless solution again? On-the-go, it is not more wireless then any other laptop on the market, and lacking behind laptops with 3G. (most places you can get a phone signal).

I've travelled all over in the last two years and have been able to find wifi everywhere I've gone in Europe and Asia.

As for 3g, its also a hit and miss along with the exhorbitant data charges involved. In Manila, 3g is very cheap though at about 25cents per 30 minutes of use. In this scenario, I just use my 3g Phone as a bluetooth modem.

Sure built in 3g would be nice but I don't know if I want to get locked in. In the US, Sprint and Verizon have better broadband coverage than ATT's GSM.
 

Catch

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A walked in the apple store today hoping to admire the sexiness of the macbook air, but was unfortunately enormously disappointed. It couldn't have been there for more than a week, and every one i looked at the top (ie when lid is closed) had a scratched and faded finish. I couldn't believe it, it was ugly and repulsive.

Sorry you feel that way. I just got mine today and I can tell you this is by far the best laptop I have ever owned. Build quality is superb, keyboard is outstanding, screen is gorgeous. It even crushes my MBP at things that are important to me, such as opening large files and applications. The machine is incredibly snappy to me. It runs my film library over my airport extreme network without any problems.

I would never go back to a 'fully featured' laptop again after this. I used to have a Toshiba when I was on the PC many moons ago which was almost as small, and before the MBA that was still my favorite form factor laptop. Slow as hell with an external 'floppy!, but a joy to carry.

I can't see this notebook aging any worse than any of the aluminum notebooks to be honest. Build quality is fantastic...

The beauty of people is that we are all so very different which I find a real asset to our species!

Regards,

C
 

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Yes, it's an ultraportable. I don't understand it with you people who claim nothing bigger than 12" is an ultraportable, because frankly, I can never recall a situation where footprint saved my life. I definitely know that thinness and weight make a lot of different when it's in my bag, though, and considering I've got papers and folders to bring around, any footprint bigger than pocket-sized and smaller than my bag isn't really going to make a difference. But the weight and thickness sure will. It's definitely an ultraportable. Just because it's a different kind of ultraportable is no reason to condemn it, and just because it goes about the idea in a different way doesn't make it or any other ultraportable more or less right in their interpretation. So I understand your situation may be different, but that doesn't make it any less of an ultraportable to many of us. Unless you can explain to me how a smaller footprint will save me the same amount of room in my bag that the Air's slender waistline will.

That depends on the individual, for you ultraportable is how thin a laptop is (though would a 15" MBA just as thin as the AIR be considered ultraportable?), for me is about how compact it is. Each to their own, personal preference.

In regards to a bag, I can put a 11" laptop in a bad that is only 11.5" :) , but if you always have a big bag, thinner can be better as it takes up less width, and fits better between books etc.

I think ultraportable refers more to the smallest screen you are prepared to have in a laptop. For some 11" is just too small, for some 13" is the perfect size, again personal perference. Also weight is a huge factor. its nice to put a laptop in a bag and not feel like u jsut put in a brick in it....
 

kuwisdelu

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You must not leave the city much, or travel abroad. In that case you would not care about 3G, but once you do, you will realise how useful 3G is. Though as a whole without 3G, the AIR is behind the rest of the market as a True wireless laptop, in other words the other manafacures have laptops that are better wireless machines.

Actually, I live in a fairly small town. When I do leave it or the city, it's usually somewhere that actually doesn't have any kind of phone signal either (southwest, mountains), so to me it wouldn't really make a difference.

That depends on the individual, for you ultraportable is how thin a laptop is (though would a 15" MBA just as thin as the AIR be considered ultraportable?), for me is about how compact it is. Each to their own, personal preference.

In regards to a bag, I can put a 11" laptop in a bad that is only 11.5" :) , but if you always have a big bag, thinner can be better as it takes up less width, and fits better between books etc.

I think ultraportable refers more to the smallest screen you are prepared to have in a laptop. For some 11" is just too small, for some 13" is the perfect size, again personal perference. Also weight is a huge factor. its nice to put a laptop in a bag and not feel like u jsut put in a brick in it....

Like I said, all up to what you need. If I can fit a comfortable 13" in the bag I'm carrying anyway, I don't see why I'd need to settle for something smaller and less practical. A 15" may be too big to fit in many bag, though, so it's not like any size is just as practical. If I had no need to carry anything other than my laptop and wanted it as small as I could, then I might care about footprint, but I'd likely still want to be carry folders and notebooks, etc., should I need. But really, I figure ultraportable just refers to being very, very portable, and that just depends on a person's needs.
 

steffi

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The track pad button was the first thing I noticed when I first saw the Air in the store. Since I've taken mine out of it's box it's no longer a bother to me and I must say it's only taken me a few hours to retrain my thumb.

Other than that I think you need to go and buy a Panasonic Toughbook and complain about why it's not portable.

I don't think you can expect to see many radical changes with the new MacBook Pro. If you figure the margins for Apple are in the Air they aren't going to canabolize sales by making the Pro more attractive my making it lighter, smaller. I think all you can expect to see in the Pro is the new touch pad technology and the keyboard. If they do that then for me there's no reason to buy an MBP over the Air and I'd say that will be the case for a lot of people. Plus I believe the Air is selling quite well at the moment.
Still loving mine......
 

jamesarm97

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Is the trackpad button anything like the macbook or more like the macbook pro. I have the pro and my sister-in-law just got a macbook and I have to say I could not get used to the trackpad button on the macbook. It seemed to stiff and not as responsive as the macbook pro. It was harder to click.

- James
 

MazingerZ

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Is the trackpad button anything like the macbook or more like the macbook pro. I have the pro and my sister-in-law just got a macbook and I have to say I could not get used to the trackpad button on the macbook. It seemed to stiff and not as responsive as the macbook pro. It was harder to click.

- James

Its more like the MBP to me and softer. But again, I'm using the trackpad for clicking so I don't really use the button.
 

Sweetbike40

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I get what you mean about not being blown away. I had posted a thread about my impression and got shot down as well. Nobody can accept someone just stating their opinion. Yet, they can start a thread saying how much they love it, why can't someone post why they don't? Although IMO it isn't worth the money right now, i still love the idea of it. I think it is the start of something better.
 

Catch

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Its more like the MBP to me and softer. But again, I'm using the trackpad for clicking so I don't really use the button.

Yeah I find it the same as my MBP as well. As the poster above, I am using the trackpad to click. I only started doing it this way while waiting for the MBA, and now I am wondering why I didn't do it this way all along. It really is a great way to use the trackpad.

C
 

HLdan

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I get what you mean about not being blown away. I had posted a thread about my impression and got shot down as well. Nobody can accept someone just stating their opinion. Yet, they can start a thread saying how much they love it, why can't someone post why they don't? Although IMO it isn't worth the money right now, i still love the idea of it. I think it is the start of something better.


I don't have a MBA and I'm not ordering one as of now so I'm going to address your concern about others shooting down your "Opinion".

It's not that certain forum members that actually love the MBA and bought one have a problem with your "Opinion" it's the fact that you are not really stating an opinion, you are really putting the product down and are calling people stupid if they were to buy it.
Example your "Opinion" up above, " Although IMO it isn't worth the money right now".

What does that say? You are telling people on the forum they wasted their money. That's not an opinion, that's a direct shot at the MBA owners on the forum.

A better way to state an opinion would be to say, "I saw the MBA in the Apple store and it doesn't offer what I need so it's not for me". You can even go as far as to say that it doesn't have what you need or it's too rich for your blood. At this point you are just stating your opinion but your not putting people down.

I think the people who make the purchase of the MBA can see for themselves how the product is designed, they don't need naysayers to tell them how horrible it is.
 

supremedesigner

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I just use tap to click.
And I also find it hard to hit the click button while standing up using the MBA. Thankfully I have my own to use with comfort? I don't have any protective sleeve and mine doesn't have a scratch. Even the demos at my local store look great. Aluminum case isn't anything new for Apple.

I have to say your post is SO LATE. We have all seen the MBA and most of us love it! Heck it's a hot seller too.

Your post is full of ignorance. It brings up things that a million haters before you have said already....

I second that.
 

butterfly0fdoom

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The MBA isn't the first all-wireless solution. Where's the Wireless USB?

As for the lack of 3G, that's reasonable. The Verizon/Sprint lovers would hate it if the MBA only offered an HSDPA chip, and the AT&T lovers would hate it if the MBA offered only an EV-DO chip. And we all know Apple loves to give people choices (not).
 

richard371

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You can bet if they do put 3g in the next version it will be ATT since Apple appears to be sleeping with them. I carry around a little sierra wireless 875 usb that works great when I need it.
 
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