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blairh

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I don't want them to ruin the MBA's capabilities nor weight/thinness as they are doing with the MB/MBPs by putting a pointless heavy battery that I will not use. I say this again, I bet the vast majority don't NEED a 10-hour battery and would be just fine with 3+, but they want it because it's MORE.

Actually Scottsdale what I was implying in my original "condescending" note with respects to replies to my original post was this (your quote above), a point you have now repeated twice in this thread. Let me break this down for you because it's amazing you are even typing these words on your side.

Battery life is one of the most important factors when considering a laptop. This becomes magnified when considering an ultra-portable because it will often be used in travel situations or places where a power cord is unavailable. That's why we want and need a longer battery life in our MBA's. To insinuate that most people are "just fine" with 3+ hrs is ridiculous. To state that I and others want our ultra-portable laptops to last much longer simply because "it's MORE" is both condensing and completely inaccurate.

I never once said or implied a 10-hour battery. Please don't put words in my mouth. And if you think the new MBA won't have a longer lasting battery than what it currently has you are sorely mistaken.
 

Moodikar

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Folks, I know we've all been waiting a little too long and surprising, we all have opinions about what we want and guessing what apple will show. We all read rumors and some like Scottsdale follow technology closely. Proof and evidence can and should dictate what is possible (which I see in lots of Scottsdale's comments) but I do believe that despite all the rumors & tech releases, we also don't hear everything that is out there nor being tested.

To that point, some things that sound impossible might have been solved like the battery size. Only Apple & their component makers know. Remember, technology is constantly improving.

So, as your emotions all seem to have turn sour, just be glad if the MBA isn't EOL. It nowhere compares to sales of it's counterparts so if speedbumped or redesigned, be glad that it wasn't "cubes".

Yes it could have 3G, touch, usb3, GSM, 11inch, 15inch, 13inch, 16x9, IPS, 2LB, etc. But only Apple will decide and ad much as we have fun guessing, most of us will probably get it anyhow cause we know that for the most part, the quality and thought was there.

So have your opinion, stay optimistic but with some reality, and just look forward to your new computer...if they even talk about hardware.
 

iPhysicist

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"nay nay battery go away - your tooooo heavy eyy"

Scottsdale, portability is about independence...

...How much weight adds your power brick to your MBA? And where to carry it? It does not fit in the sleeve...
 

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I bet that more people have use for better battery than they have for better GPU...

Sometimes you (Scottsdale) just cross the line with your posts. You aren't the only one who can posts his opinions here. We've heard what you want from the next MBA for 1 000 000 times. If some of us want MBA with better battery life, then we want one. Just like you want one with discrete GPU. I don't want to carry the freaking power adapter with me everytime I go somewhere, it's not portable anymore if it has to be plugged in all the time. It's not your job to decide what WE want.
 

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If some of us want MBA with better battery life, then we want one. Just like you want one with discrete GPU. I don't want to carry the freaking power adapter with me everytime I go somewhere, it's not portable anymore if it has to be plugged in all the time. It's not your job to decide what WE want.

It's however Scottsdale's job to point out what's possible. And as far as current physics go battery capacity scales directly with weight.
Yes, there's new technology developed all over the world, but if there were a breakthrough in battery technology (mass manufactured and safe to use under all possible consumer conditions, just remember any famous recall of laptops from any major computer brand) we'd know by now. This is a huge market, as the same battery types get used for electric vehicles, and they are throwing serious money on research.

So, not gonna happen. Not next week.

Apple has 3 lines of mobile computers in the 13" segment, which in the high-prize aluminium flavour differ mainly in battery size and optical drive [plus memory but I seriously believe this will be addressed next week]. And so far Apple chose to keep up these two lines by placing on in the slim category - no optical drive, small battery - and one in the weighty category (relatively speaking).

What makes anyone presume Apple would now choose to move one line from these distinct positions halfway to the other? When in fact it would be more sensible for the MBP dropping the optical drive, but that's an aside.

If you want longer battery life MBA just isn't for you. But there's another Mac available for that. And it's by no means a bad computer.
 

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It's however Scottsdale's job to point out what's possible. And as far as current physics go battery capacity scales directly with weight.
Yes, there's new technology developed all over the world, but if there were a breakthrough in battery technology (mass manufactured and safe to use under all possible consumer conditions, just remember any famous recall of laptops from any major computer brand) we'd know by now. This is a huge market, as the same battery types get used for electric vehicles, and they are throwing serious money on research.

So, not gonna happen. Not next week.

How do you explain why 13" MacBook Pros' battery life went up by 3 hours (7->10) but the weight was not changed (4.5lb)? The wattage also went from 58Wh to 63.5Wh.

Apple has done it with other laptops so why couldn't they do it with MBA? I don't know much about batteries but I can see that Apple has done it before. I just don't find it very portable to carry the power adaptor with me and lately Apple has been after the battery life in every product so at least I can see better battery life in MBA. It doesn't have to be 10 or 20 hours, 7-8 is completely fine. Just something more than 5 hours so it can work for few hours in real life.
 

FuNGi

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I bet that more people have use for better battery than they have for better GPU...
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+1, I too would prefer a low watt i3 or i5 with turbo boost and Intel's integrated chip over a version with a discrete graphics card and shorter battery life. Couldn't we include a switch as in the original unibodies? We could turn off the discrete graphics processor when away from an outlet.

Also, for those that monitor their processors on recent unibodies, does just playing movies switch to the 320/330M or does it stay on the IGP?

How do you explain why 13" MacBook Pros' battery life went up by 3 hours (7->10) but the weight was not changed (4.5lb)? The wattage also went from 58Wh to 63.5Wh.

Apple has done it with other laptops so why couldn't they do it with MBA? I don't know much about batteries but I can see that Apple has done it before. I just don't find it very portable to carry the power adaptor with me and lately Apple has been after the battery life in every product so at least I can see better battery life in MBA. It doesn't have to be 10 or 20 hours, 7-8 is completely fine. Just something more than 5 hours so it can work for few hours in real life.

Word. I expect them to bump up the technology on this refresh without adding weight as they've done with each of the MBP updates - might only get 5-6 hours though.

I still think that an interesting move on apples part would be to MERGE the macbook air and 13" mbp into a 3.5 lb, optical driveless, yet uniform thickness form factor, a smaller battery life, and a weaker or equivalent graphics capabilities. Perhaps not this refresh, but it seems to make sense in the future to slim down the 13" and powerup the air. Apart from price, these two "futures" should merge into a single unit that covers the whole market.
 

iPhysicist

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Scottsdale is a Salesmen, and those are not famous for there knowledge of what is possible. And by far it is not his job to tell us what is possible.

A possibility is that the Hardware Specs will stay close to the current MBA but it will shrink. Maybe it will become a touchscreen? Who knows. But one thing is for sure. Its productivity will increase with every minute they can increase the Battery life.

All people who look for super fancy Vaio Z Specs will be disappointed. MBA is not for gamer nor floating point jockeys (like the MBP13 is neither).
 

FuNGi

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Fingers crossed Apple does indeed release something soon to update the now archaic MBA. If I could construct it, this is what it would be:

1. 11.6" or 12.1" screen.

I want a smaller footprint than the current MBA. 11.6" or 12.1" would allow me to enjoy media/surf the web/type out emails. A smaller screen would also mean a lighter computer vs. what we now have in the 3 lbs MBA. Anything 2.6 lbs or lighter would make me very happy.

2. Battery life. Battery life. Battery life.

I can't stress this one enough. I want and need to take a long flight without having to worry about losing power or needing to bring an external battery along with me. While I'm not a huge fan of the iPad I do really envy how long it can last on a single charge. The new MBA is meant to be an ultra-portable. Let us take it on a long flight/train ride and enjoy it sans a power cord.

3. The Guts.

I have a 13" MBP that I use around the house. I want my new MBA to be strictly for travel. With that in mind I just need it to do the basic tasks (web, email, play music, watch movies/ write documents). As long as it can easily handle those tasks (and I'm assuming it would) I'll be very happy.

Some quick other notes:

* Add the glass trackpad that the more recent Apple notebooks have.

* Don't go for edge to edge glass on the screen. It makes it more reflective (like on my MBP). Keep the silver bezel that you'll find on the current MBA screen.

* Don't be ridiculously expensive. I know, it's Apple, fat chance. But 1.5K would be too much IMO. 1 - 1.2K would be much better. (Perhaps a smaller screen would justify a lower base model price vs. MBA's current 1.5K.)

um. you should get an ipad and a wireless keyboard. itunes will export smaller movies for you. it doesn't take that long.
 

Scottsdale

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Actually Scottsdale what I was implying in my original "condescending" note with respects to replies to my original post was this (your quote above), a point you have now repeated twice in this thread. Let me break this down for you because it's amazing you are even typing these words on your side.

Battery life is one of the most important factors when considering a laptop. This becomes magnified when considering an ultra-portable because it will often be used in travel situations or places where a power cord is unavailable. That's why we want and need a longer battery life in our MBA's. To insinuate that most people are "just fine" with 3+ hrs is ridiculous. To state that I and others want our ultra-portable laptops to last much longer simply because "it's MORE" is both condensing and completely inaccurate.

I never once said or implied a 10-hour battery. Please don't put words in my mouth. And if you think the new MBA won't have a longer lasting battery than what it currently has you are sorely mistaken.

And I am telling you that the vast majority of people I know with MBAs, over 20+ that I have regular communication with, don't care about MORE battery life. Would they take it if it didn't require Apple to add weight, add thickness, nor completely eliminate the MBA's capabilities, sure. But they're not willing to give up the lightweight super thin MBA that has complete Mac capabilities for a 10-hour or 5-real-hour battery as it will require a heavier MBA.

This is something that some people want, NOT most, and definitely not all. I would guess that less than 1 in 20 needs more than 3 hours on a regular basis. What people have a problem with is understanding that there is a 10-hour battery available in an MBA, and it's called the 13" MBP. Look at the 13" MBP, and you will see exactly what a 10-hour battery MBA would look like without completely reducing its capabilities.

You WANT MORE, maybe you need it, maybe you don't, but the MBA is not the Mac for you if you want a long battery life... EX, the 10-hour 13" MBP that probably actually gets 5 hours under normal conditions.

As I have said before, I believe Apple has taken the wrong approach with this battery issue. I believe that given CHOICES, the vast majority of people would select some other feature OVER a long lasting battery that weighs 1.25 lb. Add a bay to the 13" MBP, and put a standard life battery in the normal area for the battery. With the bay, allow people to put an extra battery giving them 10-hours away from power outlet, OR give them Blu Ray, Discrete GPU, extra HDDs, extra ports, and etc... and I bet the vast majority would select something OVER the 10-hour battery. It sounds nice, but in reality, I believe the battery is a waste for the vast majority of people. I suspect most do not need it... many might use it, but I suspect they have power available during that time when they're using their 3+ hours of battery away from charging.

I do NOT want to carry around any battery that is rated at 10 hours and even gets 5 hours in reality. The bottom line is it's rare that I NEED my MBA for more than 3+ hours when away from power. Sometimes it would be more convenient, but it's not worth carrying more weight.

I look at it this way too... if Apple could give me the exact same MBA as right now with a 10-hour battery at 3 lb. or a 5-hour (as now) battery at 2.5 lb., I would take the lightweight option. Again, I find that in reality people don't need or use a 10-hout battery, and it's just part of the wanting "MORE" mentality. Apple has done this to itself by making a 10-hour battery standard in the MBP... I believe it's a waste.

I don't see Apple making a 3 lb. MBA with a 10-hour battery, nor a battery that gets a true hour more than current battery in the MBA, without removing other capabilities and performance features.

The bottom line is a 10-hour MBA exists and it's called the MBP. Remove the optical drive, and that's exactly what a 10-hour MBA would look like.

Rather than destroy the purpose of the MBA, why don't people like you just buy an external battery that weighs two pounds and gives you the 10 hours away from power you seek? That way the majority of us who don't care about it don't have to carry the weight around... but those of you who want MORE can have it.

Apple is already using its dense 1000 cycle battery in the MBA. The difference is it weighs .75 lb. less than the battery in the 13" MBP. Add that weight and thickness to the MBA, and it's doomed and doesn't meet the needs of the vast majority who want an MBA in the first place.

Given choices, I believe people would see it's not worth it to carry around a 10-hour MBA, as it's going to add thickness and weight or eliminate capabilities and performance. Hell, there's a 10-hour Apple device that is ultraportable and it's called the iPad. That is an elimination of performance and capabilities which seems like what the MBA would need to give it a 10-hour battery in current case.

I believe people can carry around an external battery if they want a super long life, as I shouldn't have to carry around an extra .75 lb. of weight in my MBA just because a few people see MORE as more... rather than the point of the MBA which is LESS is MORE.

um. you should get an ipad and a wireless keyboard. itunes will export smaller movies for you. it doesn't take that long.

Agreed. That is what the user needs... either less capabilities to get 10-hours or "long life" or more battery whatever he wants to call it.

Or, an external battery with an MBA so we all don't suffer for the demands of a few.

Or, a 13" MBP which is what the MBA would look like with current capabilities and adding .75 lb. and added thickness required by such a battery in the MBA.
 

FuNGi

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Agreed. That is what the user needs... either less capabilities to get 10-hours or "long life" or more battery whatever he wants to call it.

Or, an external battery with an MBA so we all don't suffer for the demands of a few.

Or, a 13" MBP which is what the MBA would look like with current capabilities and adding .75 lb. and added thickness required by such a battery in the MBA.

Totally, keep the small/light form factor. If you need a days worth of battery then lug around a 60 Wh hypermac to power your Air for 11.5 hours on the plane ride to Bangkok.
http://www.hypershop.com/HyperMac-External-MacBook-Battery-60Wh-p/mbp-060.htm
 

netdog

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2. Battery life. Battery life. Battery life.

I can't stress this one enough. I want and need to take a long flight without having to worry about losing power or needing to bring an external battery along with me. While I'm not a huge fan of the iPad I do really envy how long it can last on a single charge. The new MBA is meant to be an ultra-portable. Let us take it on a long flight/train ride and enjoy it sans a power cord.

What you're describing is the 13" MBP you already have. How do you expect them to squeeze in a bigger battery?

Just get an airplane adapter cord for power and get on with it.

My dream MBA has a 17" screen but fits in a manilla envelope, weighs 2.2 pounds, has a 10 hour battery life, 64GB of RAM and does the dishes and takes out the trash.

Do you want an ultraportable or do you want a portable with reasonable battery life? Make up your mind and buy it.
 

Scottsdale

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Totally, keep the small/light form factor. If you need a days worth of battery then lug around a 60 Wh hypermac to power your Air for 11.5 hours on the plane ride to Bangkok.
http://www.hypershop.com/HyperMac-External-MacBook-Battery-60Wh-p/mbp-060.htm

Exactly. I don't get why people want to carry around this weight everyday for as you pointed out what is needed on rare occasions.

I definitely see Apple as rating the battery 1-hour more in the next MBA, but I don't see it actually giving us a 10-hour battery. It will get better, but it's not going to give us double or anywhere near a ten hour battery.

Steve Jobs is big on lightweight, thin, and full-featured. I would bet he uses the MBA himself too. It just doesn't make sense to put a 1.25 lb. battery in the MBA...

Even if they could get a 10-hour battery in a 3 lb. MBA, I believe they would drop the weight and go thinner trying to make it a 2.5 lb. MBA vs. making a true 10-hour MBA. I believe this is what the ultraportable user wants... not weight and thickness for a ten-hour battery.
 

iPhysicist

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scottsdale said:
I do NOT want to carry around any battery that is rated at 10 hours and even gets 5 hours in reality. The bottom line is it's rare that I NEED my MBA for more than 3+ hours when away from power. Sometimes it would be more convenient, but it's not worth carrying more weight.

You distort the facts. Einstein would not agree. The ultraportable is for those who want battery life (means portability).

AND I get what I want from my Battery - as advertised I have 6-7 hrs of computing if my tasks are light office (icq, skype, mail, iCal, preview, pages...) and screen on 1/2 (which is actually enough indoors). And sad but true I need these hours DAILY.

(I only have the 7h Battery which can expand its life to 8hrs while only using itunes and the headphonejack, screen is at 1)
 

blairh

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I have a MBP 13". The fall 2009 version. I want something lighter and longer lasting sans power to travel with. The iPad would not work for me. I've already stated this and why. Please read the entire thread. I'm not going to compress my dvdmedia files (close to 300) and I'm not going to watch movies on a 4:3 aspect ratio screen. Please stop telling me to get an iPad.

If the new MBA doesn't have a substantially better battery life then I'll just get a HyperMac to bring along with me. End of story.

Scottsdale, I honestly have a headache reading your reply to me. I wish you could review your entries before posting. You basically repeated several points over and over and over again within a post. :mad:

But I do want to thank you for this fun Scottsdale fact:

I would guess that less than 1 in 20 needs more than 3 hours on a regular basis.

Right. Less than 1 in 20 people needs more than 3 hours on a regular basis. Look at the responses alone within this thread from the MR community. You couldn't be more wrong. But forget it, I've come to realize there is no rationalizing with you. Not only are you wrong but you feel the need to just repeat yourself over and over again either within a thread or a singular post. It's a waste of time to go back and forth with you. So from this moment forward anything directed towards me by you on this forum will be ignored by me.
 

Hellhammer

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I definitely see Apple as rating the battery 1-hour more in the next MBA, but I don't see it actually giving us a 10-hour battery. It will get better, but it's not going to give us double or anywhere near a ten hour battery.

Even 1 hour is already 20% more battery life. 10-hour battery sounds a bit exaggerating but 7-8 hours would be the sweet spot IMO. That way I could take it to uni with me but leave the power adaptor at home, even if I had 8 hours of uni.

Seeing that Apple managed to add 3 hours of battery to 13" MBPs without adding extra weight or risking the performance, I can definitely see ~7-hour battery in MBA without making it useless. Core iX CPUs are said to be more power efficient than C2Ds so even that might do the trick. Also, making MBA SSD only would decrease the power consumption.

The battery life doesn't have to be insane, I agree that most people don't need 10-hour battery. Just updating the battery life closer to the level of other Macs is enough. 5 hours doesn't sound too appealing. At least I find it hard to justify spending extra on MBA if I have to carry the power adaptor with me in uni.

I'm fine if Apple adds an hour or two to the battery life, that way it would fulfill my needs.
 

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This is like saying three years ago how on earth are you going retain the same screen size on the iphone but increase the pixel counts by four times - if you want more pixels you have to increase the screen size.

Sorry to abrupt, while i have read and appreciated much of your posts Scottsdale i found this comment extremely stupid.

That's an awful analogy because according to your line of thought you will need to wait until 2013 to get your increased battery life.
 

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I have a MBP 13". The fall 2009 version. I want something lighter and longer lasting sans power to travel with.
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If the new MBA doesn't have a substantially better battery life then I'll just get a HyperMac to bring along with me. End of story.
Pray tell me, what advantage does a MBA plus a Hypermac battery pack present over the MBP you already own? [Other than bringing Apple some more revenue and probably satisfy your "wanna"-impulse.]
Scottsdale, I honestly have a headache reading your reply to me. I wish you could review your entries before posting. You basically repeated several points over and over and over again within a post. :mad:
If you go back to his post you'll find out it wasn't his fault but a result of merging threads which someone has tried to fix. With half a pinch of goodwill you could have noticed something was wrong even on first reading.
 

blairh

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Pray tell me, what advantage does a MBA plus a Hypermac battery pack present over the MBP you already own? [Other than bringing Apple some more revenue and probably satisfy your "wanna"-impulse.]

If you go back to his post you'll find out it wasn't his fault but a result of merging threads which someone has tried to fix. With half a pinch of goodwill you could have noticed something was wrong even on first reading.

"Pray tell me"? What?

Anyways, you are right. Is a MBA plus HyperMac all that much different vs. a MBP? I really can't make a decision until I know exactly what Apple is bringing to the table next Wednesday. We shall see then. However I do think I'd prefer something with a smaller footprint (like a 11.6" MBA).

I'm done with Scottsdale. Everything I posted last about him is 100% accurate. I'm moving on.
 

Scottsdale

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Even 1 hour is already 20% more battery life. 10-hour battery sounds a bit exaggerating but 7-8 hours would be the sweet spot IMO. That way I could take it to uni with me but leave the power adaptor at home, even if I had 8 hours of uni.

Seeing that Apple managed to add 3 hours of battery to 13" MBPs without adding extra weight or risking the performance, I can definitely see ~7-hour battery in MBA without making it useless. Core iX CPUs are said to be more power efficient than C2Ds so even that might do the trick. Also, making MBA SSD only would decrease the power consumption.

The battery life doesn't have to be insane, I agree that most people don't need 10-hour battery. Just updating the battery life closer to the level of other Macs is enough. 5 hours doesn't sound too appealing. At least I find it hard to justify spending extra on MBA if I have to carry the power adaptor with me in uni.

I'm fine if Apple adds an hour or two to the battery life, that way it would fulfill my needs.

But what you keep forgetting is that the MBA already had the new battery tech. The MBP doubled its battery but it went from the old tech to the new tech. The MBA was the first to get this new tech, so it's not going to double... we are a ways away from coming up with batteries that will double again.


You distort the facts. Einstein would not agree. The ultraportable is for those who want battery life (means portability).

AND I get what I want from my Battery - as advertised I have 6-7 hrs of computing if my tasks are light office (icq, skype, mail, iCal, preview, pages...) and screen on 1/2 (which is actually enough indoors). And sad but true I need these hours DAILY.

(I only have the 7h Battery which can expand its life to 8hrs while only using itunes and the headphonejack, screen is at 1)

LMAO, Einstein... LOL

I don't distort anything. I say what I feel about it.


Pray tell me, what advantage does a MBA plus a Hypermac battery pack present over the MBP you already own? [Other than bringing Apple some more revenue and probably satisfy your "wanna"-impulse.]

If you go back to his post you'll find out it wasn't his fault but a result of merging threads which someone has tried to fix. With half a pinch of goodwill you could have noticed something was wrong even on first reading.

Yes, they definitely did a botch job, and I got another warning... and the funny thing was they were separated by someone else's post originally.

I think it's ridiculous to get warnings like that when there's even a post in between them.
 

Hellhammer

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But what you keep forgetting is that the MBA already had the new battery tech. The MBP doubled its battery but it went from the old tech to the new tech. The MBA was the first to get this new tech, so it's not going to double... we are a ways away from coming up with batteries that will double again.

The previous bump in battery life (7->10) did not involve a new battery tech AFAIK. As I said before, the battery is just 5.5Wh more powerful but it did not add any weight or cripple the innards by any means. I don't know how Apple managed to advertise the battery as ~43% better even though the actual capacity of the battery only increased by ~9%. I doubt the real world results are as good as Apple advertises they are but the battery life still went up, without extra weight.

I can't see why they couldn't do the same with MBA and at least advertise its battery as 7-hour battery. It didn't involve a new tech nor extra weight with MacBooks.
 

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I'd settle for five hours provided it had some way to charge away from a power socket like maybe AA batteries (I have 30+ rechargeable AAs with a solar panel charger)

I would pay money just to watch Jobs unveil this.

"Over the last few years, we've revolutionized battery life on laptops, eliminating the need for removable batteries. Well now, we've gone one step further...

See this? It's called a Duracell. This little 2 inch by 1/2 inch powerhouse can dimly illuminate a flashlight for 2 HOURS before needing to be replaced. Even better, it can power an LED flashlight for 8 HOURS before needing to be replaced.

Today, I'm proud to introduce Bob Smith, VP of battery technology for Duracell. He's joining me today to announce the first ever laptop to run solely on Duracells. But wait. Not just one Duracell... We've packed 30 of them into a new computer we call the MacBook Battery."
 
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