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kramjam

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I wish hTc had the swipe-to-wake, their poor decision on the Power Button/IR placement is starting to be a PITA especially when there's no Home Button like on the S4.

How are former iPhone users getting used to unlocking the One when locked? I'm so used to just hitting the iPhone's home button and swiping to unlock very quickly. Very tempted to order the One Developer edition, just trying to simulate unlocking the phone only with that power button at the top, but I feel like I'd be really missing that home button.
 

mattopotamus

macrumors G5
Jun 12, 2012
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How are former iPhone users getting used to unlocking the One when locked? I'm so used to just hitting the iPhone's home button and swiping to unlock very quickly. Very tempted to order the One Developer edition, just trying to simulate unlocking the phone only with that power button at the top, but I feel like I'd be really missing that home button.

That is my biggest complaint with the one. The power button is on the top left and too flush with the top of the phone. Top left seems like it may be better for righties though as I am left handed.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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I'm really happy I get to keep my Developer's Edition. Again, a big part of keeping this phone is the value of the 64GB with the trade-in program.

Bring on AWS LTE, Tmobile.
 

onthecouchagain

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I played with the S4 today, and really, there's no more excuse for HTC to not relocate their power/wake button placement.

I never really had a problem inadvertently hitting the volume rockers when they were on opposite sides of the power/wake button on past devices, but nowadays, this is something that people should be even less worried about.

The S4 places the volume rocker rather high up. You'd have to try to hit the volume rockers at the same time as the power/wake button.

It's not rocket science to just off set both locations to avoid inadvertent presses. C'mon HTC.

And like I said in my OP, ironically, I'm actually inadvertently hitting the HTC One's volume rocker! So much for that argument that the power/wake button is up there to avoid these accidental volume changes.

Get with the times, HTC. Almost everyone else has figured it out.

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A carriers trade in program?

HTC's.

http://www.htctradeup.com/htcone/?cid=email_promo_HTCOnePreRegister_terms_HTCOne

I'm getting $100 dollars for an old BB Curve. Didn't you read my OP? :p

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I didn't think I'd miss lock screen widgets so much from my Nex 4 days.

Can't wait for 4.2...
 

tbayrgs

macrumors 604
Jul 5, 2009
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I never really had a problem inadvertently hitting the volume rockers when they were on opposite sides of the power/wake button on past devices, but nowadays, this is something that people should be even less worried about.

The S4 places the volume rocker rather high up. You'd have to try to hit the volume rockers at the same time as the power/wake button.

It's not rocket science to just off set both locations to avoid inadvertent presses. C'mon HTC.

And like I said in my OP, ironically, I'm actually inadvertently hitting the HTC One's volume rocker! So much for that argument that the power/wake button is up there to avoid these accidental volume changes.

Get with the times, HTC. Almost everyone else has figured it out.

My problem wasn't accidentally hitting the volume rockers (though it did happen occasionally using my Note 2 as they are directly across from the power button) but rather alway accidentally turning off the device with my thumb--exact same problem your having with the volume buttons on the One. Wouldn't you be having the same problem if the power button was where the volume rocker is on the One?

I didn't think I'd miss lock screen widgets so much from my Nex 4 days.

Can't wait for 4.2...

Try Widget Locker--allows for lockscreen widgets and custom unlock sliders, including moving their position on the screen. I know you mentioned not liking having to shuffle the device in your hand to be able to quickly wake and unlock the One. Using Widget Locker, I installed the Jelly Bean stock slider in the middle of my home screen. I did it to allow for quick launch of various applications around the slider ring but it also makes it easier to reach with your thumb to unlock.
 

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onthecouchagain

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My problem wasn't accidentally hitting the volume rockers (though it did happen occasionally using my Note 2 as they are directly across from the power button) but rather alway accidentally turning off the device with my thumb--exact same problem your having with the volume buttons on the One. Wouldn't you be having the same problem if the power button was where the volume rocker is on the One?

No, because I wouldn't ever have to reach up to the top. There'd be no buttons there.

I'm only hitting the volume rockers on the One when I'm shuffling up and reaching for the top power/wake button.

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Try Widget Locker--allows for lockscreen widgets and custom unlock sliders, including moving their position on the screen. I know you mentioned not liking having to shuffle the device in your hand to be able to quickly wake and unlock the One. Using Widget Locker, I installed the Jelly Bean stock slider in the middle of my home screen. I did it to allow for quick launch of various applications around the slider ring but it also makes it easier to reach with your thumb to unlock.

Oh sweet. I will try that!

But I also want lock screen widgets so I can put Power Toggles on the lock screen because I use that widget to sleep the device. I love Power Toggles and have always used this feature on my Android devices.

Tapping to sleep is easier than reaching up and if I can eliminate the frequency of having to reach up that power/wake button, that's a plus. :)

Here's what it looks like. I changed the wallpaper so you can easily see it:

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But in my real wallpaper, it's super discrete:

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If I could put one of those suckers on my lock screen, that'd be nice.
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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No, because I wouldn't ever have to reach up to the top. There'd be no buttons there.

I'm only hitting the volume rockers on the One when I'm shuffling up and reaching for the top power/wake button.

I certainly can understand how many don't like the reach for the power/wake button on top--personally I like it up there and I'll illustrate why. The first photo is how I would typically hold my Note 2 when using it. The second photo shows exactly where my thumb when holding it in this fashion. And because the Note 2's power/wake button is fairly pronounced, I'd accidentally turn off my phone a lot.
 

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onthecouchagain

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There are definitely times when the Home and Back buttons become completely unresponsive.

The entire OS is responsive so I can touch areas of the screen, but the home buttons straight up aren't responding. This isn't "missing" the buttons as it can last for seconds on end.

It seems like a software issue/glitch more than a defective unit because it seems to happen specifically when an app is doing some transitional affect (like when first selecting an app in the Play Store, for example, and it transitions to the app's info).

Am I the only one experiencing this?
 

tbayrgs

macrumors 604
Jul 5, 2009
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There are definitely times when the Home and Back buttons become completely unresponsive.

The entire OS is responsive so I can touch areas of the screen, but the home buttons straight up aren't responding. This isn't "missing" the buttons as it can last for seconds on end.

It seems like a software issue/glitch more than a defective unit because it seems to happen specifically when an app is doing some transitional affect (like when first selecting an app in the Play Store, for example, and it transitions to the app's info).

Am I the only one experiencing this?

Sorry, no issues here, other than my occasional bad aim when trying to hit them. The capacitive buttons on my Note 2 are certainly more forgiving, my guess being they have a larger responsive area. That being said, I haven't had any issues with the buttons responding, again assuming I'm actually hitting the targer. :D
 

johnjefferson

macrumors regular
Feb 23, 2013
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There are definitely times when the Home and Back buttons become completely unresponsive.

The entire OS is responsive so I can touch areas of the screen, but the home buttons straight up aren't responding. This isn't "missing" the buttons as it can last for seconds on end.

It seems like a software issue/glitch more than a defective unit because it seems to happen specifically when an app is doing some transitional affect (like when first selecting an app in the Play Store, for example, and it transitions to the app's info).

Am I the only one experiencing this?

I thought this phone was a dream and you were so glad to be rid of ios and the iPhone? You sure complain about it a lot. I've never had an iPhone do this, but I've had Androids do it. You wanted Android back, so there ya go.
 

onthecouchagain

macrumors 604
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Mar 29, 2011
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Holy crud, it's an issue for sure:


I'm still trying to dig whether this is an actual defect or if it's a software issue. My guess is software.

In the comments section, you can see some people chiming in, too, with running into the same problem with their own One's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v5Oc5-7rbA

Goddamn, HTC.

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Yup, software issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245637

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I thought this phone was a dream and you were so glad to be rid of ios and the iPhone? You sure complain about it a lot. I've never had an iPhone do this, but I've had Androids do it. You wanted Android back, so there ya go.

This is not an insult: You need to learn how to read and comprehend. Let's break down what you have here:

I thought this phone was a dream.

Read the OP.

you were so glad to be rid of ios and the iPhone?

I'm not "so glad." I'm very super duper glad.

I've never had an iPhone do this.

An iPhone doesn't have capacitive buttons. So yeah, I've never had an iPhone do this either. Thanks for sharing.

You wanted Android back, so there ya go.

There I go, indeed. Troll much?
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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The good news is HTC seems to be aware of the problem and a software update that does increase the sensitivity of the capacitive buttons is coming.

HOWEVER, I'm not convinced that'll necessarily fix the issue I'm experiencing and seeing on YouTube. It's not an issue of sensitivity. It's an issue of the buttons flat out not responding. I mean, how many times do these guys in the video have to press the button to get it to register? Try counting. It's ridiculous.

I hope the software update fixes more than just sensitivity. I think it's something worse than just sensitivity. Seems during certain times, it just stops recognizing touch.

 

Kashsystems

macrumors 6502
Jul 23, 2012
358
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The good news is HTC seems to be aware of the problem and a software update that does increase the sensitivity of the capacitive buttons is coming.

HOWEVER, I'm not convinced that'll necessarily fix the issue I'm experiencing and seeing on YouTube. It's not an issue of sensitivity. It's an issue of the buttons flat out not responding. I mean, how many times do these guys in the video have to press the button to get it to register? Try counting. It's ridiculous.

I hope the software update fixes more than just sensitivity. I think it's something worse than just sensitivity. Seems during certain times, it just stops recognizing touch.

YouTube: video

YouTube: video

I hope this is fixed in about 4 weeks, my wife is really eyeing this phone.
 

Fernandez21

macrumors 601
Jun 16, 2010
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The good news is HTC seems to be aware of the problem and a software update that does increase the sensitivity of the capacitive buttons is coming.

HOWEVER, I'm not convinced that'll necessarily fix the issue I'm experiencing and seeing on YouTube. It's not an issue of sensitivity. It's an issue of the buttons flat out not responding. I mean, how many times do these guys in the video have to press the button to get it to register? Try counting. It's ridiculous.

I hope the software update fixes more than just sensitivity. I think it's something worse than just sensitivity. Seems during certain times, it just stops recognizing touch.

YouTube: video

YouTube: video

I never had that happen to me on the capacitive buttons, but it has happened to me on chrome, sometimes when I load chrome and its busy trying to load the old page from memory, I'll hit the refresh button so it loads new content instead but the refresh button won't register for a couple of seconds.

Edit: Just read this somewhere else. Go into settings and then gestures and disable the 3 finger HTC gesture and see if that helps. I just did it so I can't confirm if that fixes it or not.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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Edit: Just read this somewhere else. Go into settings and then gestures and disable the 3 finger HTC gesture and see if that helps. I just did it so I can't confirm if that fixes it or not.

Interesting. Thanks. I'll give that a shot too and update.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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But.....

I told you it was a software bug and that the recent update rolled out here included fixes. ;)

Like all software bugs there will be users who don't experience it, and those that it affects more pronounced.

At least the fix is already rolling out for those that do have it.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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I told you it was a software bug and that the recent update rolled out here included fixes. ;)

Like all software bugs there will be users who don't experience it, and those that it affects more pronounced.

At least the fix is already rolling out for those that do have it.

My concern is that it's more than just a sensitivity issue. Either way can't wait for fix.

I'll report back about turning off the 3 finger gesture feature to see if that fixes the issue.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
My concern is that it's more than just a sensitivity issue. Either way can't wait for fix.

I'll report back about turning off the 3 finger gesture feature to see if that fixes the issue.

FYI - got my One from AT&T on Friday and haven't experienced a single problem with the capacitive buttons. I even tapped rapidly in intervals of two taps just to test because of your issues and it responded every time.

Wonder if yours is defective or if I have a newer software version with a fix in it?
 

dojoman

macrumors 68000
Apr 8, 2010
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My concern is that it's more than just a sensitivity issue. Either way can't wait for fix.

I'll report back about turning off the 3 finger gesture feature to see if that fixes the issue.

I just had this problem yesterday. Originally I thought it was my screen protector and it was fine but it came back again. I couldn't press either buttons for a few minutes until I had rebooted the phone.
 

bmac4

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Feb 14, 2013
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Atlanta Ga
FYI - got my One from AT&T on Friday and haven't experienced a single problem with the capacitive buttons. I even tapped rapidly in intervals of two taps just to test because of your issues and it responded every time.

Wonder if yours is defective or if I have a newer software version with a fix in it?

Oh you got the One. Are you not using the nexus 4 any more? How do you like having a skinned android phone?
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
Oh you got the One. Are you not using the nexus 4 any more? How do you like having a skinned android phone?

The One is my primary phone, but I kept my N4 - selling my old 4S to help offset the cost of the One.

So far its fantastic. The One is a beautifully designed phone and I really like Sense (both aesthetically and the features like Zoe and Blinkfeed). The display is gorgeous, though I'm only noticing minimal difference between it and the iPhone 5 (both being top-of-the-line IPS LCDs with the One having a higher PPI), but the size of display adds to its awesomeness.

And those Boomsound speakers.....wow.

All-in-all, this might be the best phone I've ever used - the whole package (outer design, elegant UI, beautiful screen, blazing fast). I still love my iPhone 5 - but the negatives I'd heard about like the camera and battery life have been non-issues for me. The battery life is adequate - plenty for my uses - and the camera has been surprisingly good.

On my 5-point scale, the HTC One gets a 4 (with the only knock being against customer service - if I have a problem with my One, I'd likely have to go through HTC......nothing will beat having an Apple store within 10 miles of my house).
 

bmac4

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Feb 14, 2013
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The One is my primary phone, but I kept my N4 - selling my old 4S to help offset the cost of the One.

So far its fantastic. The One is a beautifully designed phone and I really like Sense (both aesthetically and the features like Zoe and Blinkfeed). The display is gorgeous, though I'm only noticing minimal difference between it and the iPhone 5 (both being top-of-the-line IPS LCDs with the One having a higher PPI), but the size of display adds to its awesomeness.

And those Boomsound speakers.....wow.

All-in-all, this might be the best phone I've ever used - the whole package (outer design, elegant UI, beautiful screen, blazing fast). I still love my iPhone 5 - but the negatives I'd heard about like the camera and battery life have been non-issues for me. The battery life is adequate - plenty for my uses - and the camera has been surprisingly good.

On my 5-point scale, the HTC One gets a 4 (with the only knock being against customer service - if I have a problem with my One, I'd likely have to go through HTC......nothing will beat having an Apple store within 10 miles of my house).

Wow that is some high praise. So which line did you trade the One for the iPhone 5 or N4? Did you get the carrier model of the phone? It is good to hear that you like the phone, and nothing major you don't like. I keep hearing it is the best android phone you can buy right now.

I understand your concerns about customer service. Nothing compares to being able to walk into an Apple store and just getting a new device if yours does not work properly. I have had issues with Apple before, but at least I could just go right back to the Apple store. Until Google makes their own stores or hardware (which I don't see either happening) their customer service will never be as good.
 
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