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apolloa

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Uh, yes you can. Like I said, go to settings/general/autolock and you an set how long before the screen times out. Just did it on my both my iPad and iPhone.

The name of the setting could be better but Fernandez21 is right. This setting determines when the screen shuts off. The setting to determine how long before your passcode is required is separate and found under Settings > Passcode > Require Passcode.

Thanks, I'll check that out later.

EDIT: Nope that didn't do anything, all it did was stop the iPad asking for the passcode when it was unlocked.
 
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Switchback666

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I'm really curious about that, since "icloud locked" devices are selling for pretty cheap and are considered useless bricks.

Weird that in this forum they never published any news about it but since "iCloud lock" started it was rendered useless, now its even more public since Chronicunlocks (popular imei unlock serv.) started doing the iCloud remove service.
 

Tig Bitties

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Was at Best Buy to check out the Note 4, and saw the two new iPhone 6's there, so I had to check them. Note 4 was amazing, but I might wait for the Nexus 6, not a Touchwiz fan.

First off the regular iPhone 6 looked immediately too small, and didn't hold my attention for half second, I looked at it, held it, and put it down, thinking lame, would never buy this thing in a million years.

Then the iPhone 6 Plus, that did grab my attention, the size was really nice. The screen was beautiful, it felt great in the hand, was lightweight. It is a very nice phone. I turned it on, and started to get sick, iOS8 and iOS in general just blows :rolleyes: sorry to say. I went into the Messaging app, and then wanted to back out to a different message, but couldn't find the back button, I had to press that stupid big round thumb button thing to go back :mad: Just messing around with it for like 60 seconds and I was turned off and very disappointed in iOS, it just feels so outdated, I'll admit iOS8 looks cool, but the way it functioned bugged the crap out of me. There's just no way I could move from stock Android to iOS8.

Now give me an iPhone 6 Plus running Android L, then that could be the coolest phone.
 

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Was at Best Buy to check out the Note 4, and saw the two new iPhone 6's there, so I had to check them. Note 4 was amazing, but I might wait for the Nexus 6, not a Touchwiz fan.

First off the regular iPhone 6 looked immediately too small, and didn't hold my attention for half second, I looked at it, held it, and put it down, thinking lame, would never buy this thing in a million years.

Then the iPhone 6 Plus, that did grab my attention, the size was really nice. The screen was beautiful, it felt great in the hand, was lightweight. It is a very nice phone. I turned it on, and started to get sick, iOS8 and iOS in general just blows :rolleyes: sorry to say. I went into the Messaging app, and then wanted to back out to a different message, but couldn't find the back button, I had to press that stupid big round thumb button thing to go back :mad: Just messing around with it for like 60 seconds and I was turned off and very disappointed in iOS, it just feels so outdated, I'll admit iOS8 looks cool, but the way it functioned bugged the crap out of me. There's just no way I could move from stock Android to iOS8.

Now give me an iPhone 6 Plus running Android L, then that could be the coolest phone.
So that big left arrow button on the top left hand side of the screen that said 'Messages' wasn't a dead giveaway?

And ios employs swipe left and right from the screen edges to emulate back and forward button pushes. Not as obvious as the big arrow button mind you.

That said, there are times that a back button is needed in ios, but it is a rare occurrence, but Messages is not one of them.
 

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Tig Bitties

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OK I did not know about swiping screens, or didn't see the arrow key in the Messaging app. My bad. I'll try it again next time at the store.

How far away is a Jailbreak for the 6 ?
 

McGiord

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I wonder why certain people love so much to spend their time using their smartphone for doing 'tweaks' and changing how the OS looks instead of using it to do something productive, or more enjoyable like taking and sharing pictures, recording and watching videos, playing a game or calling your loved ones.
The initial impression is that they are like those bike owners that spend their whole weekends adding decals, washing, cleaning and polishing their bikes instead of riding them...
 

Lloydbm41

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I wonder why certain people love so much to spend their time using their smartphone for doing 'tweaks' and changing how the OS looks instead of using it to do something productive, or more enjoyable like taking and sharing pictures, recording and watching videos, playing a game or calling your loved ones.
The initial impression is that they are like those bike owners that spend their whole weekends adding decals, washing, cleaning and polishing their bikes instead of riding them...

Ever thought that some people consider hacking and coding their mobile devices as fun? Maybe what you envision as fun other people mock. Think about it.
 

McGiord

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Ever thought that some people consider hacking and coding their mobile devices as fun? Maybe what you envision as fun other people mock. Think about it.

Hacking and coding is a different thing. Just tweaking the OS by toggling setting is not hacking or programming.
Developing for iOS or Android might be really gratifying and I seriously doubt that people that can do that complaints about an OS setting that they cannot toggle on/off.
 

Nick A

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I wonder why certain people love so much to spend their time using their smartphone for doing 'tweaks' and changing how the OS looks instead of using it to do something productive, or more enjoyable like taking and sharing pictures, recording and watching videos, playing a game or calling your loved ones.
The initial impression is that they are like those bike owners that spend their whole weekends adding decals, washing, cleaning and polishing their bikes instead of riding them...

It's because not every person is using the phone in the same way, which is what Apple implies. A medical doctor's iPhone will look the same exact way besides the wallpaper to a 16 year old girl's iPhone.

This is what bugs me..If I prefer to use Firefox as my default browser for AdBlock, why should I be forced to use Safari? If I prefer a different mail application, why should I be forced to use Mail? If I prefer a different text app besides Messages that offers unique features, why can't I use it? If a graphic designers makes a cool new theme or launcher, why can't I give it a test run? After all, it's MY phone, why should I let a company tell me how to use it?
 

McGiord

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It's because not every person is using the phone in the same way, which is what Apple implies. A medical doctor's iPhone will look the same exact way besides the wallpaper to a 16 year old girl's iPhone.

This is what bugs me..If I prefer to use Firefox as my default browser for AdBlock, why should I be forced to use Safari? If I prefer a different mail application, why should I be forced to use Mail? If I prefer a different text app besides Messages that offers unique features, why can't I use it? If a graphic designers makes a cool new theme or launcher, why can't I give it a test run? After all, it's MY phone, why should I let a company tell me how to use it?

I think you can change the default browser in iOS, also you can use other apps for emails, and there are plenty of instant messaging apps are available too.

The launcher/themes may be the only Android personalization thing that iOS doesn't give you right away.
 

Lloydbm41

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Hacking and coding is a different thing. Just tweaking the OS by toggling setting is not hacking or programming.
Developing for iOS or Android might be really gratifying and I seriously doubt that people that can do that complaints about an OS setting that they cannot toggle on/off.
Apparently, you have never rooted and/or ROM'd a device. The very definition of rooting IS hacking.

But i digress. People consider customizing their phones, cars, bikes or whatever as fun. Maybe you like to put on a Star Trek costume and go to Comic conventions.
 

McGiord

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Apparently, you have never rooted and/or ROM'd a device. The very definition of rooting IS hacking.

But i digress. People consider customizing their phones, cars, bikes or whatever as fun. Maybe you like to put on a Star Trek costume and go to Comic conventions.

Following an online set of instructions is not hacking.

Maybe there is theme for Trekkies Android and iOS.

I have never watched any of those movies or the TV series. Some People like them. Why would I ever want to put a Star Trek costume, and how is that even relevant to his thread?
 

Lloydbm41

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Following an online set of instructions is not hacking.

Maybe there is theme for Trekkies Android and iOS.

I have never watched any of those movies or the TV series. Some People like them. Why would I ever want to put a Star Trek costume, and how is that even relevant to his thread?
So, i go in and alter the code of the OS via Rooting/ROM, add in an alternate kernal, or maybe alter the build.prop file to make the phone think it is another phone (like say an S3 now 'appears' to be a Nexus phone to allow for google wallet to work, etc... None of that is considered hacking by you, because i didnt write the code? You do know the definition of hacking, right?

And the Star Trek comment was a hypothetical. I have no idea what you think is 'fun', but whatever it is I'm sure someone would criticize it like you have done here. As i said before, think about it. You know the old saying about not throwing stones in glass houses?
 

Destroysall

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But it just feels as though people buying iPhones now are buying simply because:

A: They're used to it
B: Their friends/family use iPhones
C: They are simply Apple fans

I really can't see anyone buying the iPhone 6 and truly believing it's the best experience that's currently available...

I'll add more thoughts as I think of them, but what do you guys think?
While I once did apply to your second implication; most of my friends and family have switched to Android for their mobile cellular.

I've never owned an iPhone, but I've always wanted one. Have come so close to getting one many times, but for some reason never made the leap. My reasons for wanting one were based on aesthetic appeal, the Apple app store, and iTunes functionality.

In the case with iPhone 6; marvelous phone. The software is clean and usable and the design is well-built and sleek. The fault that turned me off was battery life. I recently missed a very important phone call because my current phone had died on me with only 5 hours of use. According to a report by PhoneArena, the iPhone tested for a roughly 5-6 hour battery life.

Ultimately, given that I was wanting to upgrade my phone, I decided upon the HTC One (M8). It remarkably is similar to iPhone minus being Android and its battery was tested to last 7-8 hours, something I was happy about.:)

This isn't to say I would never obtain and utilize an iPhone as my primary device in the future, but as of now, I might just stick with Android.
 

Oohara

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I wonder why certain people love so much to spend their time using their smartphone for doing 'tweaks' and changing how the OS looks instead of using it to do something productive, or more enjoyable like taking and sharing pictures, recording and watching videos, playing a game or calling your loved ones.
The initial impression is that they are like those bike owners that spend their whole weekends adding decals, washing, cleaning and polishing their bikes instead of riding them...

Some people simply think it's fun. It's no more complicated than that.

I think you can change the default browser in iOS, also you can use other apps for emails, and there are plenty of instant messaging apps are available too.

The launcher/themes may be the only Android personalization thing that iOS doesn't give you right away.

AFAIK you can't change default apps on iOS unless that changed with iOS 8. Can anyone with experience chime in here?
 

McGiord

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So, i go in and alter the code of the OS via Rooting/ROM, add in an alternate kernal, or maybe alter the build.prop file to make the phone think it is another phone (like say an S3 now 'appears' to be a Nexus phone to allow for google wallet to work, etc... None of that is considered hacking by you, because i didnt write the code? You do know the definition of hacking, right?

And the Star Trek comment was a hypothetical. I have no idea what you think is 'fun', but whatever it is I'm sure someone would criticize it like you have done here. As i said before, think about it. You know the old saying about not throwing stones in glass houses?

What you described as hacking is better defined as modding.
Or analogous to installing another OS to any computer. Like installing a different version of Linux to a PC. Updating the ROM SW isn't hacking, it's like updating a firmware, a software patch, etc.
That some get the kick of feeling like a hacker or some people think that you are some kind of hacker because you were able to modify how the Android phone works by following the work of another person (maybe a real hacker) is another story.

If we adopt your definition of hacker anyone executing a software or firmware update is hacker?

Google's dictionary:
"hack·er
ˈhakər/
noun
noun: hacker; plural noun: hackers
1.
a person who uses computers to gain unauthorized access to data.
synonyms: cybercriminal, pirate, computer criminal, keylogger, keystroke logger; informalcyberpunk, hacktivist
informal
an enthusiastic and skillful computer programmer or user.
2.
a person or thing that hacks or cuts roughly."

About what is fun, it's all relative.

About criticizing that's the point of the forum, discuss and share our opinions. Some people can't accept any.

I prefer to use my iPhone than to spend time trying to tweak the color of a button, or how an icon looks <~ isn't fun.

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"Hacking" is needed to http://www.idownloadblog.com/2014/02/02/make-chrome-default-browser-ios/
 

ravipiero

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So, i go in and alter the code of the OS via Rooting/ROM, add in an alternate kernal, or maybe alter the build.prop file to make the phone think it is another phone (like say an S3 now 'appears' to be a Nexus phone to allow for google wallet to work, etc... None of that is considered hacking by you, because i didnt write the code? You do know the definition of hacking, right?


That is called tweaking.
 

McGiord

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Some people simply think it's fun. It's no more complicated than that.



AFAIK you can't change default apps on iOS unless that changed with iOS 8. Can anyone with experience chime in here?

Workaround for the Maps Apps:
How to force iOS 8 to use third-party maps

http://www.cnet.com/news/how-to-force-ios-8-to-use-a-third-party-map-app/

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http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id383989837
 

samiznaetekto

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Workaround for the Maps Apps:
How to force iOS 8 to use third-party maps

http://www.cnet.com/news/how-to-force-ios-8-to-use-a-third-party-map-app/

Shared via the CNET Application
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id383989837

Do I miss smth? Since this "workaround" does not change the default app permanently, isn't it way more steps than just launching a different map app directly?! :confused:

PS. These screenshots remind us how poor Apple's software has become. You can see non-homogeneous choices in the same segmented control: Drive, Walk, and Apps. WTF Apple? Do they even read their own Human Interface Guidelines??? Segment control is like a dropbox - you put homogeneous choices in it, things of the same kind. Like Drive, Walk, Bike, but not Drive, Walk, APPS!!! Crazy...
 
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jrswizzle

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The bolded in your quote below is untrue. As long as I remember using Power Toggles, it had flashlight and camera toggles. In the early versions of power toggles, it didn't include 75% of the features it has now. Now you can add any app as a shortcut/toggle, including any default like the calculator.

Customization and features of Power Toggles answers the rest of your statement.

James,

Just wanted to point out that Power Toggles has an option for every single setting on the phone, as well as the option to link to any app you have. Flashlight, camera, calculator, etc....

I apologize, you are correct. I never think about the links to various apps you can add in there.
 
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