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So I got my 5S on the 7th. So far, after about half a week using it, here are my thoughts (Using my S5 as a baseline):

This phone has a great build quality. It really feels premium and the gold makes it look even better. Apple's dedicated vibrate switch is great rather than having to press the volume down 24/7. Touch ID works so much better than the Galaxy S5 fingerprint scanner as well. The dual speakers at the bottom are also nice as well.

The screen is too small for me. I feel like the adjustment time will take a long time. I have been used to screens 4.7-5.7" over the last two years. It is a decent screen, but it doesn't pop out to me as my Galaxy S5's 1080p display. The Super Amoled display has better color saturation and the PPI is much higher than Apple's because of the resolution bump.

The camera on the iPhone is great, but doesn't match my S5 with all the additional camera features since Apple focuses on the standard approach and making it great: panorama, slow-mo, etc. Samsung focuses on giving you each and everything. Photobooth does make up for the effects though since Apple has some fun ones. Zooming isn't as great as I thought it would be, but it does the job. Apple always makes good sensors anyways.

The user experience will be subjective for many, but I will try to be objective as possible. The benchmarks typically give Apple the advantage for the processor with single core usage, but the S5 has a higher multicore score. The S5 has a higher clock speed, but it doesn't mean much unless you put pen to paper rather than look at the paper type and quality. The UI feels very minimalistic, straight to the point, and gets the job done. That's the Apple montra. Providing a user friendly experience without flares. iMessage is probably my favorite messaging service since it is so dynamic since you can message others internationally without surcharges.

Here is where it goes south. iTunes is a pain the butt. I had over 380 songs trying to sync over and only 226 managed to get to my phone each time. The inability to transfer music with ease is difficult. Most of you will say "it's Apple, what do you expect?" True, but you would think that the sync should be seamless as possible? Well, it isn't in my experience. To go further, I am required to download a program on my PC in conjunction with iTunes to use Zedge to download wallpapers. Why create unnecessary steps to just do something simple, Apple? There has to be a happy medium with this control freak attitude. My S5 allows me to go straight to Zedge and download my wallpapers. Changing ringtones is also a pain too. I cannot use my music as my ringer. How am I supposed to enjoy my USC Trojans Fight Song ringer seamlessly?

There are some intricacies that Apple does that I don't know why they haven't caught up. In the phone dialer, shouldn't there be a predictive dialer sequence where I dial 323, I get "Dad" showing up as a prediction? Android has been doing that for years, so it skips an unnecessary step by going into the contacts tab or favorites tab. I don't use Newstand. Shouldn't there be a way to delete it? It doesn't bother anyone that it will be deleted since it should be an app available through the App Store if people want to redownload it after deleting it.

Although I may seem like I am critical of iOS, it does many things right. As stated before, iMessage is great. With iOS 8, Apple and Android are neck and neck for the core smartphone functions. iMessage gives iOS a leg up since you can respond to texts by pulling down the notification bar within any app and respond from there rather multi tasking to the message app. iCloud is a great backup service since it can work with iTunes to backup almost anything you have on your iPhone. Find My iPhone gives users a service to protect their phones from losses and thefts. Apps open up quicker and close quicker on the iPhone as well when compared to the GS5 on stock Touchwiz.

The battery life is not so great thus far. I attribute this to my low signal coverage everywhere with my carrier. My S5 didn't burn through as much battery as the 5S. I have to resort to airplane mode + wifi to mitigate battery drainage. I have overheating issues with the battery and device itself, so I will take it to the Apple Store to get changed out today.

Overall, I am on the fence on keeping the 5S. I feel like it's a huge adjustment giving away my freedoms to focus on merging my phone experience with iTunes, dealing with a screen size that small, not having a predictive dialer, missing out on Android L, and having a stronger battery. The iPhone does give me a better build quality, a nicer control center with a flash light function built in, iMessaging, App Extensions, Widgets when they become available over time, better speakers, more support than Samsung, and a better experience when it comes towards core functions. I feel like I might go back to my S5 and focus on trying to improve it with turning off animations and waiting for the ART run time switch with Android L. The switch is very difficult since I am leaving my niche that have been with since the G1.
 

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So I got my 5S on the 7th...

The screen is too small for me. I feel like the adjustment time will take a long time. I have been used to screens 4.7-5.7"...

There is a certain level of absurdity in this post given certain recent product availability.
 

pdqgp

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iMessage gives iOS a leg up since you can respond to texts by pulling down the notification bar within any app and respond from there rather multi tasking to the message app.

SMS Notifier allows for this on Android.

Find My iPhone gives users a service to protect their phones from losses and thefts.

You have services like this available on Android too including remote location, deactivation, wiping, etc.
Apps open up quicker and close quicker on the iPhone as well when compared to the GS5 on stock Touchwiz.

Turn off animations and ditch TW as your launcher and you'll increase speeds to the point that they are as faster if not faster than an iPhone.

The iPhone does give me a better build quality, a nicer control center with a flash light function built in, iMessaging, App Extensions, Widgets when they become available over time, better speakers, more support than Samsung, and a better experience when it comes towards core functions.

I would like to hear more about what you feel is nicer in terms of the iOS control center, widgets and app extensions if you don't mind sharing.
 

nviz22

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SMS Notifier allows for this on Android.



You have services like this available on Android too including remote location, deactivation, wiping, etc.


Turn off animations and ditch TW as your launcher and you'll increase speeds to the point that they are as faster if not faster than an iPhone.



I would like to hear more about what you feel is nicer in terms of the iOS control center, widgets and app extensions if you don't mind sharing.

iOS Control Center feels nicer simply because it has music controls right off the bath, it has the flashlight, and it also has a calculator. Widgets in the sense of the Sportscenter app with a drop down menu. Not the equivocal Android Widgets per say. I was just trying to be objective because I use Lookout on the S5 if anything on the Find My iPhone Level. I want something native rather than going with apps from the Play Store as well. That's why I feel like having Android L w/ reply in app with messaging would be nice.
 

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iOS Control Center feels nicer simply because it has music controls right off the bath, it has the flashlight, and it also has a calculator. Widgets in the sense of the Sportscenter app with a drop down menu. Not the equivocal Android Widgets per say. I was just trying to be objective because I use Lookout on the S5 if anything on the Find My iPhone Level. I want something native rather than going with apps from the Play Store as well. That's why I feel like having Android L w/ reply in app with messaging would be nice.

Gotcha. Flashlight wise, I use one of many widgets on Android and park it next to my alarm clock (Timely) as I tend to walk upstairs and into my bedroom at night with the flashlight app as not to wake the wife and then set my alarm clock. However, I've grown used to having Tasker set my alarm for me based on the day :)
 

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Gotcha. Flashlight wise, I use one of many widgets on Android and park it next to my alarm clock (Timely) as I tend to walk upstairs and into my bedroom at night with the flashlight app as not to wake the wife and then set my alarm clock. However, I've grown used to having Tasker set my alarm for me based on the day :)

Apple has made strives to meet Android, but it's just the screen size and iTunes that forces me back to my S5. I am returning the 5S and getting another S5 replacement since the flap is awful after 3 weeks. So I am going to consider "jumping" to the Nexus 6 to wipe out any remaining debt on my S5 and then get the Nexus 6 to build from there.
 

pdqgp

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Apple has made strives to meet Android,

No doubt iOS has made improvements, but IMO they are still a long way out from having the phone really act as a smart phone. It's still limiting the users from their own experience and instead it concentrates on having them live by Apple's definition of an experience....albeit a decent one. Once their OS allows me to do what Android does, I'd own an Apple Device once again. What's funny is I really have no idea why Apple resists.
 

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Apple has made strives to meet Android, but it's just the screen size and iTunes that forces me back to my S5. I am returning the 5S and getting another S5 replacement since the flap is awful after 3 weeks. So I am going to consider "jumping" to the Nexus 6 to wipe out any remaining debt on my S5 and then get the Nexus 6 to build from there.

What??? Do you know of the existence of the 6/6+?

4.7" and 5.5". FYI you don't need iTunes, just a charger and iCloud.

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No doubt iOS has made improvements, but IMO they are still a long way out from having the phone really act as a smart phone. It's still limiting the users from their own experience and instead it concentrates on having them live by Apple's definition of an experience....albeit a decent one. Once their OS allows me to do what Android does, I'd own an Apple Device once again. What's funny is I really have no idea why Apple resists.

The iPhone IS a smartphone.
 

nviz22

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What??? Do you know of the existence of the 6/6+?

4.7" and 5.5". FYI you don't need iTunes, just a charger and iCloud.

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The iPhone IS a smartphone.

I never denied the 6/6+ existence. You don't know my circumstances, so there's a reason why I never got either of those. 6+ bezel is too ugly anyways.
 

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I never denied the 6/6+ existence. You don't know my circumstances, so there's a reason why I never got either of those. 6+ bezel is too ugly anyways.

Well this entire thread sounds like you got a 5s and used it with a heavy Android bias, and then came to post about it, expecting any of us to take you seriously.

When you start off your post complaining about the iPhone being too small, its going to be hard to take you seriously considering there are new iphones
 

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Well this entire thread sounds like you got a 5s and used it with a heavy Android bias, and then came to post about it, expecting any of us to take you seriously.

What the heck is it with this place? Someone comes in, shares their opinions and impressions about phones, and the police come in to tell them what's wrong with their post.

Personally I appreciate hearing other peoples' opinions, no matter which platform they like. I wish it was the case someone could post and share their opinion without getting dog-piled with people telling them how biased they are or whatever.

And I say this as someone who's just bought an iPhone 5s and thinks it's fantastic.
 

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Well this entire thread sounds like you got a 5s and used it with a heavy Android bias, and then came to post about it, expecting any of us to take you seriously.

When you start off your post complaining about the iPhone being too small, its going to be hard to take you seriously considering there are new iphones

Can't afford a 6/6+. My carrier offered me a 5S as a switch in exchange for the S5 since I am on my 5th S5.
 

pdqgp

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Can't afford a 6/6+. My carrier offered me a 5S as a switch in exchange for the S5 since I am on my 5th S5.

no worries man...welcome to the world of the 5s. I'm looking to replace my sons 4s with a 5 or 5s. No way I'm paying full price for an iP6 for an 11yr old. The only reason I got an iP6 for my wife is I got a deal on it due to an AT&T screw up on our bill.
 

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Can't afford a 6/6+. My carrier offered me a 5S as a switch in exchange for the S5 since I am on my 5th S5.

That's fine and all. But saying the 5S screen is too small(which it is) then saying you prefer Android because of the screen size, doesn't logic with me well. You could have said "while 5S has a small screen, the new iPhone models have a bigger screen and thus could remove that as an issue I have with Apple"
 

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That's fine and all. But saying the 5S screen is too small(which it is) then saying you prefer Android because of the screen size, doesn't logic with me well. You could have said "while 5S has a small screen, the new iPhone models have a bigger screen and thus could remove that as an issue I have with Apple"

iTunes is my biggest gripe though. I cannot get past that. But the screen size on the new models is still an issue for me. The bezel on the 5.5" plus is just too much. The screen to bezel ratio is off the charts. Also, the PPI being the same on the 6 didn't really make me feel like it was worth getting the 6 through T-Mobile Jump since there goes $750 for a 64 GB model. If Apple's price points were a bit more friendly, I would be on an iPhone 6, but alas, that's not the case. I will keep my S5 for now and then look to shift to a Nexus X/6 or just wait for Android L to see if it improves the S5.
 

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iTunes is my biggest gripe though. I cannot get past that. But the screen size on the new models is still an issue for me. The bezel on the 5.5" plus is just too much. The screen to bezel ratio is off the charts. Also, the PPI being the same on the 6 didn't really make me feel like it was worth getting the 6 through T-Mobile Jump since there goes $750 for a 64 GB model. If Apple's price points were a bit more friendly, I would be on an iPhone 6, but alas, that's not the case. I will keep my S5 for now and then look to shift to a Nexus X/6 or just wait for Android L to see if it improves the S5.

That's fair enough. I felt(and perhaps many others) that there wasn't much logic in talking about the 5S display when the 6 was the latest.

Thanks for clarifying, but you do realise you aren't locked to a computer though, right? You can just use iCloud...
 

nviz22

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That's fair enough. I felt(and perhaps many others) that there wasn't much logic in talking about the 5S display when the 6 was the latest.

Thanks for clarifying, but you do realise you aren't locked to a computer though, right? You can just use iCloud...

Yes, that's true, but I have to use my SD Card to port over my music to my phone which requires a USB connection. I mean sure, there are apps, but nothing I would trust immediately. I heard about Doubletwist, but you have to pay for it. At the end of the day, I haven't shut the door on an iPhone return. The 6S is still very much in play for 2015.
 

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Yes, that's true, but I have to use my SD Card to port over my music to my phone which requires a USB connection. I mean sure, there are apps, but nothing I would trust immediately. I heard about Doubletwist, but you have to pay for it. At the end of the day, I haven't shut the door on an iPhone return. The 6S is still very much in play for 2015.

Thanks for your clarifications:) I have a Mac with an SSD so iTunes launches super quick for me and I wouldn't mind iTunes, I don't find it too bloated. But I did have issues with iTunes on Windows because that was a piece of crap! I think Apple is slowly but surely getting there in terms of developer support, as TouchID and third party sharing, third party keyboards and 3rd party app extensions have shown.

Apple seems serious to show they are slowly opening up, IMO. iOS 9 will be very interesting to see.
 

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Thanks for your clarifications:) I have a Mac with an SSD so iTunes launches super quick for me and I wouldn't mind iTunes, I don't find it too bloated. But I did have issues with iTunes on Windows because that was a piece of crap! I think Apple is slowly but surely getting there in terms of developer support, as TouchID and third party sharing, third party keyboards and 3rd party app extensions have shown.

Apple seems serious to show they are slowly opening up, IMO. iOS 9 will be very interesting to see.

Yeah, if they can move into 3rd party friendly relationships, they can return back to the dominant OS. The good thing is that there is choice between two viable options. At this point in time, Windows isn't as viable because their app market is really behind. Instagram in beta still? Late to the party for years. Cortana is the best thing it has. The Lumia has the Carl Zeiss camera line at least.
 

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Can't afford a 6/6+. My carrier offered me a 5S as a switch in exchange for the S5 since I am on my 5th S5.

Hold up....you're on your fifth S5? What's wrong with them?

Wouldn't it be easier to have a phone that works, rather than worrying about getting replacement after replacement?
 

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Hold up....you're on your fifth S5? What's wrong with them?

Wouldn't it be easier to have a phone that works, rather than worrying about getting replacement after replacement?

Actually I was ready for an upgrade from my 4s (especially after my stupidly installing iOS 8 on the 4s), but didn't want a phone as large as the 6. So I got the 5s about two weeks ago. A better phone than the 4s, but its missed several calls, sending them straight to voice mail, in good signal areas where my 4s had no trouble, so rather than getting involved for two years of replacements and trips to Verizon I returned the 5s. I'll probably just hang with the 4s and see what the 6s is about eventually.
 

Rangomango

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Actually I was ready for an upgrade from my 4s (especially after my stupidly installing iOS 8 on the 4s), but didn't want a phone as large as the 6. So I got the 5s about two weeks ago. A better phone than the 4s, but its missed several calls, sending them straight to voice mail, in good signal areas where my 4s had no trouble, so rather than getting involved for two years of replacements and trips to Verizon I returned the 5s. I'll probably just hang with the 4s and see what the 6s is about eventually.

Strange, so what is wrong with all the S5 you had?
 
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