My iPhone Experience Wanting Me To Move On

[blairh]

OP I don't know where you live. Assuming it's America and your carrier is AT&T or T-Mobile (big assumptions I know) I would get the Z3 Compact when it becomes available shortly. Use Google Music instead of iTunes.

You said you skipped the iPhone 6 for money reasons. What good is it buying a phone (5S) that you can currently afford but find too small? Better off saving and buying the right phone instead.

 

[nviz22]

OP I don't know where you live. Assuming it's America and your carrier is AT&T or T-Mobile (big assumptions I know) I would get the Z3 Compact when it becomes available shortly. Use Google Music instead of iTunes.

You said you skipped the iPhone 6 for money reasons. What good is it buying a phone (5S) that you can currently afford but find too small? Better off saving and buying the right phone instead.

Carrier sent it to me free of charge as a replacement for the Galaxy S5.

 

[blairh]

Carrier sent it to me free of charge as a replacement for the Galaxy S5.

Why don't you sell it? Get a phone you want.

 

[nviz22]

Strange, so what is wrong with all the S5 you had?

2 Black ones had overheating issues. Two White ones had battery life issues. One of the Whites had a bad vibrator too. Two of the Whites had screen glitches. The 5th one has a bad cover flap for waterproofing. I am going to the LG G3 instead.

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Why don't you sell it? Get a phone you want.

Too much money invested through T-Mobile's EIP to sell the phone off.

 

[jrswizzle]

No doubt iOS has made improvements, but IMO they are still a long way out from having the phone really act as a smart phone. It's still limiting the users from their own experience and instead it concentrates on having them live by Apple's definition of an experience....albeit a decent one. Once their OS allows me to do what Android does, I'd own an Apple Device once again. What's funny is I really have no idea why Apple resists.

This is a really stupid sentence.

I had my 6+ in my pocket at lunch listening to music today. I got a message from a buddy of mine. I listened and responded multiple times to his iMessages without ever touching the phone or pulling it out of my pocket.

(the above is just one very recent example of how my iPhone is "smart")

iOS may not work for you. But to say the iPhone isn't a smartphone is one of the more ludicrous things I've ever heard on these forums.

And that's a heavy statement considering the utter drivel that's bandied about on these forums daily.

 

[Technarchy]

I never denied the 6/6+ existence. You don't know my circumstances, so there's a reason why I never got either of those. 6+ bezel is too ugly anyways.

Your circumstances?

I think I'll buy this phone and claim Galaxy phones are too small...

 

[pdqgp]

iOS may not work for you. But to say the iPhone isn't a smartphone is one of the more ludicrous things I've ever heard on these forums.

And that's a heavy statement considering the utter drivel that's bandied about on these forums daily.

iOS works, but you're correct, it no longer works for me as I've since grown out of it and have since moved onto a smarter phone.

From a smart phone standpoint iOS still lacks many of the more advanced features and capabilities for the user to actually personalize it. It also lacks the ability to automate many of the things that Android offers.

You listened to a text that was read to you, great. My phone does that as well. However, I also have the ability to know that while I'm in and out of training sessions at a conference today that my phone is automatically seeing my calender and adjusting it's volume settings accordingly thus I'll never be the fool with a phone ringing when it should be silenced.

I'm also in a new time zone but my phone also activates my alarm clock and sets the screen brightness and more for me automatically so I don't have to worry about waking up late.

When I go back and am in my office, my phone will also automatically change to bluetooth, connect to my office stereo, prevent my screen from darkening once it is placed on my dock and automatically forward all my calls to my desk phone. It will then change the bluetooth setting to my car, unforward my phone and adjust the screen once I leave and head home.

I could go on....but in the end, sure, you can all your phone a smart phone, but Apple has crippled it's ability to keep up with the capabilities of other phones/OS's like I would have expected them to do. They don't even allow for the customizing of basic things like adding a new dialer, calendar, music player, email system, etc. so that I can pick the app that works best for me. I can't even configure widgets or notifications nearly as effectively either. Again, I grew out of Apple telling me how to use their phone and fit it into my life. I've since moved onto a platform that allows me to be in control of just about every aspect of how I use my smarter phone.

Don't be offended at any of this. It's not a cut on iOS. It's just a reality check on how it performs against the market offerings today. Perhaps one day Apple will enable some of these things and maybe even leapfrog them.

 

[jrswizzle]

iOS works, but you're correct, it no longer works for me as I've since grown out of it and have since moved onto a smarter phone.

From a smart phone standpoint iOS still lacks many of the more advanced features and capabilities for the user to actually personalize it. It also lacks the ability to automate many of the things that Android offers.

You listened to a text that was read to you, great. My phone does that as well. However, I also have the ability to know that while I'm in and out of training sessions at a conference today that my phone is automatically seeing my calender and adjusting it's volume settings accordingly thus I'll never be the fool with a phone ringing when it should be silenced.

I'm also in a new time zone but my phone also activates my alarm clock and sets the screen brightness and more for me automatically so I don't have to worry about waking up late.

When I go back and am in my office, my phone will also automatically change to bluetooth, connect to my office stereo, prevent my screen from darkening once it is placed on my dock and automatically forward all my calls to my desk phone. It will then change the bluetooth setting to my car, unforward my phone and adjust the screen once I leave and head home.

I could go on....but in the end, sure, you can all your phone a smart phone, but Apple has crippled it's ability to keep up with the capabilities of other phones/OS's like I would have expected them to do. They don't even allow for the customizing of basic things like adding a new dialer, calendar, music player, email system, etc. so that I can pick the app that works best for me. I can't even configure widgets or notifications nearly as effectively either. Again, I grew out of Apple telling me how to use their phone and fit it into my life. I've since moved onto a platform that allows me to be in control of just about every aspect of how I use my smarter phone.

Don't be offended at any of this. It's not a cut on iOS. It's just a reality check on how it performs against the market offerings today. Perhaps one day Apple will enable some of these things and maybe even leapfrog them.

Setting all that up sounds exhausting. Perhaps my phone is as smart as I need it to be. I flick a switch when I'm in and out of meetings. A dialer is a dialer and works just fine....I don't care about the color of it....s

All in all, if Apple's services and offerings sucked, I could see how not changing them would be a detriment. But I don't feel the need to change every little thing about my phone because it is a tool. Not an extension of my personality.

Perhaps I just see my phone differently. Still invaluable, but I'd rather have a great experience ready to go out of the box than customize so that it reflects "me". Most of what I've found in the customizations is superficial anyhow.

The automation stuff is fine - but again, seems to me like a lot of setup for things that are already extremely easy to do. At least in my world.

 

[Zaft]

. To go further, I am required to download a program on my PC in conjunction with iTunes to use Zedge to download wallpapers. Why create

I think your confusing downloading ringtones not wallpapers. You can download wallpapers from the zedge app straight to your iPhone.

Its the ringtones that need the app on the computer. Which is stupid I agree.

 

[nviz22]

I think your confusing downloading ringtones not wallpapers. You can download wallpapers from the zedge app straight to your iPhone.

Its the ringtones that need the app on the computer. Which is stupid I agree.

That's what it was? I skipped over the message after a quick glance. I am on the LG G3 now, so I am glad to be back on Android.

 

[Zaft]

That's what it was? I skipped over the message after a quick glance. I am on the LG G3 now, so I am glad to be back on Android.

Yes just for ringtones. Enjoy the G3 nice phone

 

[Jibbajabba]

iOS works, but you're correct, it no longer works for me as I've since grown out of it and have since moved onto a smarter phone.

From a smart phone standpoint iOS still lacks many of the more advanced features and capabilities for the user to actually personalize it. It also lacks the ability to automate many of the things that Android offers.

You listened to a text that was read to you, great. My phone does that as well. However, I also have the ability to know that while I'm in and out of training sessions at a conference today that my phone is automatically seeing my calender and adjusting it's volume settings accordingly thus I'll never be the fool with a phone ringing when it should be silenced.

I'm also in a new time zone but my phone also activates my alarm clock and sets the screen brightness and more for me automatically so I don't have to worry about waking up late.

When I go back and am in my office, my phone will also automatically change to bluetooth, connect to my office stereo, prevent my screen from darkening once it is placed on my dock and automatically forward all my calls to my desk phone. It will then change the bluetooth setting to my car, unforward my phone and adjust the screen once I leave and head home.

I could go on....but in the end, sure, you can all your phone a smart phone, but Apple has crippled it's ability to keep up with the capabilities of other phones/OS's like I would have expected them to do. They don't even allow for the customizing of basic things like adding a new dialer, calendar, music player, email system, etc. so that I can pick the app that works best for me. I can't even configure widgets or notifications nearly as effectively either. Again, I grew out of Apple telling me how to use their phone and fit it into my life. I've since moved onto a platform that allows me to be in control of just about every aspect of how I use my smarter phone.

Don't be offended at any of this. It's not a cut on iOS. It's just a reality check on how it performs against the market offerings today. Perhaps one day Apple will enable some of these things and maybe even leapfrog them.

Setting all that up sounds exhausting. Perhaps my phone is as smart as I need it to be. I flick a switch when I'm in and out of meetings. A dialer is a dialer and works just fine....I don't care about the color of it....s

All in all, if Apple's services and offerings sucked, I could see how not changing them would be a detriment. But I don't feel the need to change every little thing about my phone because it is a tool. Not an extension of my personality.

Perhaps I just see my phone differently. Still invaluable, but I'd rather have a great experience ready to go out of the box than customize so that it reflects "me". Most of what I've found in the customizations is superficial anyhow.

The automation stuff is fine - but again, seems to me like a lot of setup for things that are already extremely easy to do. At least in my world.

Setup only needs to be done once. In fact, it mainly is just a few clicks away.

Because of all the built-in backup stuff I can move from any Android device to another and still keep all mysettings. Google backs up one set, my launcher the rest and a lot of apps use either (even dropbox / box)

I think it all boils down to one thing: He does it because he can ... but you can't in IOS. One thing which pisses me off since day #1 in IOS is the fact that you MUST have certain apps on your home screen (Stocks, anyone?) and you have no way of customizing your home screen (yes yes, you can move it all to another page, not the point). In fact, there are two Apps / Widgets worth for me not to move to IOS.

Local Train app. Its widget has my home and work station set and based on geo location it changes the direction and without opening the app, shows me the next available trains (only "button" I have to press is to unlock the screen).

Next is a calendar app (in my case cozi.com) - shows me all coming days in a widget, again, just need unlocking the screen.

I could also go on, but we have been there in a 10000 threads and each thread has pro and cons (not even sure why I bothered replying again)

 

[nviz22]

Yes just for ringtones. Enjoy the G3 nice phone

Thanks. So far so good since it has all the features that TW offers like Multiwindow and Smart Stay without having the extra bloat like Mute/Pause when looking away and other stuff that drains the battery and hogs up the RAM. The screen is fantastic too. Easily the best phone I have ever owned.

 

[pdqgp]

Setting all that up sounds exhausting. Perhaps my phone is as smart as I need it to be. I flick a switch when I'm in and out of meetings. A dialer is a dialer and works just fine....I don't care about the color of it....s

not difficult to set up at all and then once you have these set up you never have to worry about it again. In terms of a dialer, on an iPhone perhaps it's that basic, but Android dialers offer options on how you see and configure notes, addresses, filter contacts, etc.

All in all, if Apple's services and offerings sucked, I could see how not changing them would be a detriment. But I don't feel the need to change every little thing about my phone because it is a tool. Not an extension of my personality.

You're right, Apple's services don't "suck" but they do have room for improvement. In your case I get that your phone isn't an extension of your personality, but in my case it doesn't just reflect my personality, but my phone too goes well beyond appearance updates, it reflects the way I wish to work. I want automation and predictive measures not just options for reactive measures.

Perhaps I just see my phone differently. Still invaluable, but I'd rather have a great experience ready to go out of the box than customize so that it reflects "me". Most of what I've found in the customizations is superficial anyhow

That's cool. Not everyone requires the needs that I and many other Android users do. For my parents, a simple flip phone works. However, my point is those advanced options are available on this platform and go well beyond superficial. IMO they are what todays new SmartPhones should be capable of doing. Users of these devices should at least have the options. To me it's crazy that Apple limits things like this.

The automation stuff is fine - but again, seems to me like a lot of setup for things that are already extremely easy to do. At least in my world.

you'll have to try them. not difficult at all. way more simple than doing all those updates at one time every time I walked in my office. to me that would not make sense at all. I love the fact that when I rotate between my offices (I travel for work) that my phone knows that and automatically forwards my calls to my desk phone while I'm in the building. If I leave for lunch and it reverts back to my cell only.

 

[jrswizzle]

not difficult to set up at all and then once you have these set up you never have to worry about it again. In terms of a dialer, on an iPhone perhaps it's that basic, but Android dialers offer options on how you see and configure notes, addresses, filter contacts, etc.



You're right, Apple's services don't "suck" but they do have room for improvement. In your case I get that your phone isn't an extension of your personality, but in my case it doesn't just reflect my personality, but my phone too goes well beyond appearance updates, it reflects the way I wish to work. I want automation and predictive measures not just options for reactive measures.



That's cool. Not everyone requires the needs that I and many other Android users do. For my parents, a simple flip phone works. However, my point is those advanced options are available on this platform and go well beyond superficial. IMO they are what todays new SmartPhones should be capable of doing. Users of these devices should at least have the options. To me it's crazy that Apple limits things like this.



you'll have to try them. not difficult at all. way more simple than doing all those updates at one time every time I walked in my office. to me that would not make sense at all. I love the fact that when I rotate between my offices (I travel for work) that my phone knows that and automatically forwards my calls to my desk phone while I'm in the building. If I leave for lunch and it reverts back to my cell only.

I suppose I have a different perspective because I never turn any of that off.

For instance, my work phone ALWAYS forwards to my cell. Bluetooth is always on so any time I enter a room with a device I've paired with, it connects automatically. Auto-brightness adjusts the brightness based on the lighting in the room (or outside), so no need to adjust there.

Wifi is always on, TouchID has made it so having a lock always on isn't a hassle....I get that it sounds cool and futuristic. But to me any setup would be more work than I do now and I don't have to constantly manage anything anyhow.

To each his/her own though. The Nexus 6 and 9 look cool. Can't wait to try out Android L on my N5.

 

[jamezr]

Widgets worth for me not to move to IOS.

Local Train app. Its widget has my home and work station set and based on geo location it changes the direction and without opening the app, shows me the next available trains (only "button" I have to press is to unlock the screen).

Next is a calendar app (in my case cozi.com) - shows me all coming days in a widget, again, just need unlocking the screen.

I could also go on, but we have been there in a 10000 threads and each thread has pro and cons (not even sure why I bothered replying again)

Widgets are such a great and useful tool!

 

[pdqgp]

I suppose I have a different perspective because I never turn any of that off.

It's not about turning things on and off though. Even with my iPhone or iPad, it doesn't always if ever go from being bluetooth connected to my car to then connecting to my office stereo once that bluetooth is detected. Whether the problem lies in my iOS device or the stereo, it never just works like that thus I find myself having to manually connect it. Not anymore.

In terms of brightness, it's not about using auto brightness, it's about keeping the screen on full brightness when it's docked. I use auto brightness, on my devices, but there too, on either iOS or Android, it doesn't always keep the screen how I want it and it certainly doesn't insure it stays on when docked. However, now mine does.

Phone wise, you and I just work differently is all, thus I prefer to talk on a true land line/speakerphone vs a cell as the sound is different. Been better on my landline at work than both my iPhones and Android. Nature of the phone or the connection, etc. doesn't matter. However, I see your point in that you do the opposite. That's cool.

Continued thanks for the contributions and feedback here. I too agree that I can't wait for Android L/5.0

 

[TechGod]

Widgets are such a great and useful tool!

Mist be why the are in iOS 8.

 

[spinedoc77]

Mist be why the are in iOS 8.

I wouldn't put them in the same category of usefulness, but that's just my personal use. Of course Apple will hopefully refine and improve on them. I'm not sure how open the widgets are to devs though.

 

[TechGod]

I wouldn't put them in the same category of usefulness, but that's just my personal use. Of course Apple will hopefully refine and improve on them. I'm not sure how open the widgets are to devs though.

From what my iPad shows. It will be enough for me.

I just want my school timetable easily accesable from anywhere and the iOS widgets seem to allow that.

 

[jamezr]

Mist be why the are in iOS 8.

Widgets on IOS are just an afterthought compared to the way they are on Android.

 

[TechGod]

Widgets on IOS are just an afterthought compared to the way they are on Android.

Fair enough. But Widgets should be accessible from anywhere and that's what the iOS widgets allow.

 

[jamezr]

Fair enough. But Widgets should be accessible from anywhere and that's what the iOS widgets allow.

Anywhere? Can i have a weather widget on my home screen? Can I have a calendar widget on another page? Can I have a email widget under my weather widget.....the list goes on and on......

You can't have widgets anywhere you want on IOS....just where Apple decided for you......

 

[TechGod]

Anywhere? Can i have a weather widget on my home screen? Can I have a calendar widget on another page? Can I have a email widget under my weather widget.....the list goes on and on......

You can't have widgets anywhere you want on IOS....just where Apple decided for you......

You misunderstand me, I meant if I am in some app like Safari and I want to see my school timetable quick I can just swipe down a bit and see it, I prefer that over the Timetable widget being only on the Homescreen. IMO.

 

[jamezr]

You misunderstand me, I meant if I am in some app like Safari and I want to see my school timetable quick I can just swipe down a bit and see it, I prefer that over the Timetable widget being only on the Homescreen. IMO.

But when you said widgets were on IOS.....they really are not. They are really a notification. Not a widget. I want to have 3 screens on my GS5....Screen#3 4x4 for my calendar widget. Screen #2 has Apollo music player, Pandora, and an email widget for hotmail. Screen #1 (home screen) has Google search widget that has voice activation by saying "Ok Google" Beautiful widgets weather widget right under that one. Now I can change any one of those widgets to whatever i want to wherever i want. There are endless apps on the Playstore to choose from that can become a widget. I can place those widgets anywhere i want them to be that is useful to me.....

Can you change the widgets in IOS? Can you choose a different location or app? I don't think you can. Can you have weather on your homescreen?