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mrex

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I've never had an Apple device that would have been in this situation in the first place. And if it was, Apple would have replaced or fixed it for free at one of their stores on the same day,

Because when you bought apple device you already paid the extra to get that possible support. Thousends of buyers pay extra but only few needs it, there is the answer. There are less customers asking replacements than customers paid for it.

Neither apple does anything free - you already paid for it, use it or not. Simple.
 

Channan

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Because when you bought apple device you already paid the extra to get that possible support. Thousends of buyers pay extra but only few needs it, there is the answer. There are less customers asking replacements than customers paid for it.

Neither apple does anything free - you already paid for it, use it or not. Simple.
Same goes for my Samsung phone. Paid almost $800 for my Galaxy S7 Edge before tax.
 

ucfgrad93

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Your experience was a breeze by comparison to many, so honestly I wouldnt have had any complaints if I had your experience.


If you really want to comnpare.

My S6 Edge last year began turnning itself off, force restarting or locking up and getting insansely hot and require a hard reset to turn off. Once turned off, it sometimes wouldnt turn back on again.

I contacted Samsung, they arranged a repair. 2 days later a courier shows up to collect, a week later after being in their authrosied service centre it is returned ... With a note saying no issue could be found.

I turned on the device, and within 5 minutes the phone was force restarting and going into bootloops.

I contacted Samsung again who appologised, and said they would arrange collection again.

5 days later and 4 calls later the courier finaly arrives to collect the device.

Another week later the device is returned with a new 'ribbon' installed to fix the issue. Within less than an hour of being on, the device was doing exactly the same thing. Exasperation began setting in.

Another call to Samsung, put on hold...... 40 minutes later, another apology. At this point I had documented the issue, made videos of the issue and what it was doing and the customer service rep told me that I would have to send to to the same repair centre, to include the video on USB stick and they would make a note. I asked for a replacement device. They said it was policy 'not' to offer replacements.


3 days later, courier collected. 2 days later the phone is returned 'sans' USB memory stick with a note that a new motherboard had been installed. Optimistically I turned on the device. Less than three hours later after charging the device repeated behaviour. Nothing had been fixed.

At this point I rang customer services and insited I get a replacement and was put on hold.

They then came back and told me NO. I could not get a replacement as it was not policy and it would have to be returned to the repair centre.

Nearly 4 weeks of ongoing repairs, frustration, phone calls and no working phone.

At this point I went onto Samsung Ireland's facebook page and posted ALL the documented evidence (repair notes saying device was perfect and passed testing) and videos of it crapping out. Within an hour of posting it I get a facebook messenger asking for my telephone number.


Samsung rang me and appologised, and said they would elevate this themselves (a seperate department) and that they would sort out a replacement phone for me, on one caveat ..... That they deleted the post on FB ....... Essentially the only way I got a working phone was through shaming and embarrasment.

No body should have to go through hell like that for a repair.

Samsung have a LONG way to go here anyway to reach any 'standard' of customer service. In fariness to the last guy who did help me, he was very understanding, but I was offered no compensation for my time wasted and frustration endured during the repair process, or missing USB sandisk flashdrive.

If i wasn't such a gadget horder, it would undoubtably have put me off buying any Samsung phones again. I still dread the though process of anything going wrong with them in the future though.

Holy crap! If I had that experience with them, I would have sold the replacement they sent and would never buy a phone from them again.

My iPhone 6 plus recently developed some issues with the screen becoming non-responsive. I took it to my local Apple store and walked out 20 minutes later with a new phone.
 

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Refer to this video from "Geekanoids" Dave Cryer, a VERY nice, polite and meticulously in-depth and very fair, kind man who reviewed his Samsung customer disservice experience... draw your own conclusions:

 
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Channan

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I got my phone back today, two weeks after I sent it in, in exactly the same condition it was when I sent it. No repairs done. I called Samsung today to explain that I was promised a free repair THREE times, yet here is my phone without any repairs at all.

The lady transferred me to a manager or supervisor or whatever who apologized for everything, sent me a new shipping label, and told me everything will be taken care of with one day shipping each way and expedited repairs. I can't believe the amount of time and effort all of this took and my phone is still not fixed.

Apple's customer service is great and I've always appreciated it, but it was never a deciding factor on which products I should buy...until now. Unless I get a steal on a new phone, I probably won't buy from any manufacturer I'm not completely confident can provide good customer service. And I will NEVER buy from Samsung again.
 

MRU

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I got my phone back today, two weeks after I sent it in, in exactly the same condition it was when I sent it. No repairs done. I called Samsung today to explain that I was promised a free repair THREE times, yet here is my phone without any repairs at all.

The lady transferred me to a manager or supervisor or whatever who apologized for everything, sent me a new shipping label, and told me everything will be taken care of with one day shipping each way and expedited repairs. I can't believe the amount of time and effort all of this took and my phone is still not fixed.

Apple's customer service is great and I've always appreciated it, but it was never a deciding factor on which products I should buy...until now. Unless I get a steal on a new phone, I probably won't buy from any manufacturer I'm not completely confident can provide good customer service. And I will NEVER buy from Samsung again.

Oh god its starting to sound like my horrible repair cycle last year ... :(
 
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I7guy

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I got my phone back today, two weeks after I sent it in, in exactly the same condition it was when I sent it. No repairs done. I called Samsung today to explain that I was promised a free repair THREE times, yet here is my phone without any repairs at all.

The lady transferred me to a manager or supervisor or whatever who apologized for everything, sent me a new shipping label, and told me everything will be taken care of with one day shipping each way and expedited repairs. I can't believe the amount of time and effort all of this took and my phone is still not fixed.

Apple's customer service is great and I've always appreciated it, but it was never a deciding factor on which products I should buy...until now. Unless I get a steal on a new phone, I probably won't buy from any manufacturer I'm not completely confident can provide good customer service. And I will NEVER buy from Samsung again.
Bad customer service is really an annoyance and I'm sorry you have had your share. I always want good customer service on my device as I depend on it working, like so many others. Customer service is at the top of my list, and as your posts prove, when things need attention, you would like them fixed. Now, I'm not saying apple is all peaches and cream, but generally they are known for the good customer service. Good luck.
 
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Channan

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Bad customer service is really an annoyance and I'm sorry you have had your share. I always want good customer service on my device as I depend on it working, like so many others. Customer service is at the top of my list, and as your posts prove, when things need attention, you would like them fixed. Now, I'm not saying apple is all peaches and cream, but generally they are known for the good customer service. Good luck.
If Apple would just make Android devices, I would never look at another company again. Lol

I would just stick with Apple and not buy from anyone else, but I can't be stuck with iOS permanently. If I don't have Android devices to play around with also, I get so bored of iOS.
 
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Channan

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Samsung emailed me stating they shipped my phone Friday and it's one day shipping. Just checked while posting this and UPS still shows they don't even have the package yet. Even if Samsung actually ships it tomorrow and I get it Wednesday, that's still almost two weeks since I sent it when this was supposed to be an expedited process. It's taking as long as my phone was gone last time.
 
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Truefan31

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Samsung emailed me stating they shipped my phone Friday and it's one day shipping. Just checked while posting this and UPS still shows they don't even have the package yet. Even if Samsung actually ships it tomorrow and I get it Wednesday, that's still almost two weeks since I sent it when this was supposed to be an expedited process. It's taking as long as my phone was gone last time.

That's unfortunate. Expedited huh lol.
 

KillaMac

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Which is why half the battle of any Manufacturer, needs to stand behind their product.

Apple, in my opinion, would have never argued with you for 40 minutes. Ridiculous. That's not acceptable. That's called inconsistency with their service, first they explain you will be charged, then they tell you they will cover the repair. Samsung needs lessons in mannerisms and customer Service. Period.

Good for you that you were consistent in your stance. Glad your Phone will be repaired.
Been there done that with Samsung as well. I own a Samsung and iPhone and hope I never have an issue with it but when it's time for me to upgrade I won't buy another.
 

akash.nu

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Been there done that with Samsung as well. I own a Samsung and iPhone and hope I never have an issue with it but when it's time for me to upgrade I won't buy another.
To be honest I never think about any other phone as my personal device simply because of my reliance on them. Charging me for repairs or not, have never made me wait for more than a few hours to get things working.
 

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Refer to this video from "Geekanoids" Dave Cryer, a VERY nice, polite and meticulously in-depth and very fair, kind man who reviewed his Samsung customer disservice experience... draw your own conclusions:

That being said one must be either really brave or really stupid to purchase anything from samsung. We don't even have Apple stores where i live, but i have never called and email like he did.
 

akash.nu

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That being said one must be either really brave or really stupid to purchase anything from samsung. We don't even have Apple stores where i live, but i have never called and email like he did.
Yeah that video is just the last nail on the coffin for me really. I watched it when he released it first. Horrendous service.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Refer to this video from "Geekanoids" Dave Cryer, a VERY nice, polite and meticulously in-depth and very fair, kind man who reviewed his Samsung customer disservice experience... draw your own conclusions:

Having watched this video I would say Samsung have infringed this guys statutory consumer rights. I have never heard of a company sending out an additional product while a refund is being processed and then holding that item to ransom to delay paying out! That is outrageous and had this guy escalated this incident to a small claims court I don't think he would have any problem winning. Absolutely appalling customer service, especially for a company the size of Samsung.

I find experiences like this sad mainly because I had a headache getting a phone repaired with Samsung back in 2012. Since then I have only had iPhones and on the 2 occasions I have had to take my phone in, I have left within 30 mins with the solution I wanted.
 

Channan

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So they shipped my phone yesterday and I did get it today. I'm very happy with the repairs. Not only is the home button fixed, but the screen is new as well as the metal frame.

For a moment I thought it was a brand new phone.

The experience was a nightmare to go through, but in the end it was worth it for not only the repaired home button, but also the screen and frame. My phone was in excellent condition before with only minor scratches and scuffs from normal use, but now it's practically mint again.
 

ucfgrad93

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So they shipped my phone yesterday and I did get it today. I'm very happy with the repairs. Not only is the home button fixed, but the screen is new as well as the metal frame.

For a moment I thought it was a brand new phone.

The experience was a nightmare to go through, but in the end it was worth it for not only the repaired home button, but also the screen and frame. My phone was in excellent condition before with only minor scratches and scuffs from normal use, but now it's practically mint again.

I'm glad you are happy with it. However, given your's and @MRU experiences with Samsung repair, I don't think I'd ever buy one.
 
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MRU

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I'm glad you are happy with it. However, given your's and @MRU experiences with Samsung repair, I don't think I'd ever buy one.
That's the rub. It really put me off, but I soon gave in to the hardware temptation when the S7e came out back in March. When they work great, they are great. But when you do have a hardware problem the support at least here is more hit than miss.
 
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My mediocre iPhone is still getting updates 2 years on and running as good as the day I bought it lol. I don't think 'mediocre' was the correct word.
What about the fact that it just gets updates in general. I heard Android N will be named Android N(ever gonna get it).

Meanwhile, I had an issue with my iPhone 6S plus in the first month, Apple sent me a new phone in a box (account hold of course), I swapped the SIM card, re-activated using a helpful easy to read guide, put my phone in the same box attached the label they sent with it, and my phone problem was fixed. Account hold was removed when they received my phone.

Times from original support request:
Total time: 72 hours.
Time it took to have a working phone: 14 hours (shipping).

Wish these poor Samsung people would get the same service, I feel for you all.
 
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It will be interesting to see if going forward from the Note 7 debacle, Samsung beefs up its customer service in order to restore its overall reputation. Who knows how many thousands of customers will never buy a Samsung phone again based on the news of houses burning down and people getting burned and non Note Galaxy S7's exploding into fireballs in restaurants.

I'm seeing how things play out this year myself. I'm going to enjoy my Note 7 and just see how it all goes.
 
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ForkHandles

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i went into an apple shop today with an iPhone 5 that wasn't working properly. Within 5 minutes I walked out with a new unit.

Thats service for you. Well done Apple.
 

C DM

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i went into an apple shop today with an iPhone 5 that wasn't working properly. Within 5 minutes I walked out with a new unit.

Thats service for you. Well done Apple.
On the other hand there are also some less "pleasant" stories about Apple stores and Apple support. Basically to say that pretty much any consumer company will have good and bad stories, and those on their own don't necessarily spell everything out, it's more about an overall aggregation of them all and overall context. Apple on the overall comes off quite well in that respect. I'm not completely sure about Samsung not having heard too much on a more aggregated and overall scale of it all, beyond a few smaller isolated (anecdotal) type of instances, like those mentioned here. It could very well be that Samsung is sub-par in that respect, or it could be that they are just about average, or perhaps even better than average (even though maybe not great), and there are just some good and bad individual stories out there just like there are about pretty much anything.
 

Channan

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That's the rub. It really put me off, but I soon gave in to the hardware temptation when the S7e came out back in March. When they work great, they are great. But when you do have a hardware problem the support at least here is more hit than miss.
Yeah I say I'm never going to buy another Samsung product again, but if something truly amazing comes out in the future, I might just have to risk a bad support experience again.
 
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On the other hand there are also some less "pleasant" stories about Apple stores and Apple support. Basically to say that pretty much any consumer company will have good and bad stories, and those on their own don't necessarily spell everything out, it's more about an overall aggregation of them all and overall context. Apple on the overall comes off quite well in that respect. I'm not completely sure about Samsung not having heard too much on a more aggregated and overall scale of it all, beyond a few smaller isolated (anecdotal) type of instances, like those mentioned here. It could very well be that Samsung is sub-par in that respect, or it could be that they are just about average, or perhaps even better than average (even though maybe not great), and there are just some good and bad individual stories out there just like there are about pretty much anything.
On Amazon reviews Samsung often does not fare very well among customer comments. So many of their products are very well regarded in terms of features and people enjoy using them, but many pf their otherwise fabulous products have been prone to specific failure points. Like the Gear S2 watch bands have an alarming tendency to break where they attach to the watch. Other people have charging ports go bad on various Samsung devices.

So there is a combination there of sloppy quality and/or design and then poor followup on customer service requests. People repeatedly report feeling lost in a customer service labyrinth.

I suspect that the problem is that Samsung has viewed every product release as a beta test. They seem less concerned about rectifying problems for existing customers and products and instead make note of the glitch or failure and try to avoid it for their next product release. It's wonderful that they're always looking to the future and always refining their products but they need to also take care of the customers and the products we already bought in good faith.

I did worry going in to my Note 7 purchase that it could be something of a disposable phone with a limited shelf life. (Lol--I did not think they would be designed to self destruct within three weeks). But I had a very specific experiment of my own in making this purchase and everything aligned favorably for me to give this a shot now. There is a lot that went into my reasoning that I won't rehash here. I have no regrets and I have learned a lot and continue to learn a lot from my little adventure away from the Apple ecosystem. It is wonderful stepping away from my usual entrenched positions and gaining a new perspective.
 

npolly0212

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The s7 edge is horrible. Just go on Samsung forums, you will find threads with pages upon pages about the waterproof feature not working, the screens break so easily it's ridiculous, overheating like absolute crazy. But if it contact support they give you no help whatsoever
 
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