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Hank Carter

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sales would probably be worse, right?
where are you getting all this effort being put into watchbands?

idk, i imagine they're putting lots more effort into osx and computers than watchbands.

or- how many people do you imagine Apple has working on watch bands? and how many working on macs?

file the watchband reference under sarcasm.
 
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kohlson

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Microsoft and Zune. Left everyone who owned one, and paid for the content residing therein, high and dry.
 
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musique

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Samsung, ditto. They came out with a moderately higher-end mirrorless camera that got good reviews, the NX1. Then a year or so after releasing it, they stopped selling it and stopped producing lenses for it.
 

orph

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Dec 12, 2005
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o yes the Samsung camera products are a mess :/ but they sell a lot better/wider range in the east.
you want to look at Panasonic for smaller mirror less or sony for FF (a7s so nice) & the canon M line is cool if you want magic lantern (there ap-c).
had a Nikon 1 for a bit but did not like it, to big for a pocket camera & sensor is to small for the price, still nice but just did not like it's placement (got it as i wanted to play with manual focus lenses) so ended up returning it.

ps to be fair there lens have devalued so fast on the used market that you can pick up a set cheep. (last time i looked)
 

pat500000

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i wonder if mcDonald's was ever good?
anyone here old enough to know?
Good question. I just remember McDonald had a hamburger character rather than Ronald McDonald.. ...but I'm sure (or hopefully) you are aware that they are starting to use more Kiosk and less humans. But I actually tried this kiosk once..kinda gave me hard time with ordering food...
 
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ScottishCaptain

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Oct 4, 2008
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i wonder if mcDonald's was ever good?
anyone here old enough to know?

They used to be decent, just like DQ.

Supposedly, these days they're actually in the realty business more than they are a franchise. I know someone who owns one of their locations. Basically, McDonald's (the corporation) owns the land his building sits on (which he owns). He just pays them rent or something forever, and in exchange he's allowed to run the location as a franchise.

Apparently they have very little to do with the actual food and stuff, beyond having a network where you can order supplies and providing general recipes and stuff. If a location sucks, it's probably because of the owners, rather than the company itself, even though they should be taking steps to ensure all locations are consistent and enjoyable.

-SC
 
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talmy

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i wonder if mcDonald's was ever good?
anyone here old enough to know?
I'm 67 and first ate at McDonalds in 1959. No inside seating and a very limited menu (hamburger, cheeseburger, fries (small), shakes, and soft drinks). Frankly, only the fries were really good (not as good these days) and the burgers terrible but the service was fast and the prices low (hamburger, fries and shake for 42¢ total).
 

flat five

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Everyone's taste differs, especially when it comes to something as subjective as actual taste.
i mean good as in more healthy / less additives / less fast-food_ish..

like, was there ever a time when the burgers were processed or formed on site as opposed to machine made with mystery ingredients then frozen then delivered.. etc.
 
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pat500000

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i mean good as in more healthy / less additives / less fast-food_ish..

like, was there ever a time when the burgers were processed or formed on site as opposed to machine made with mystery ingredients then frozen then delivered.. etc.
Good question. I wonder the same.
 

orph

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when big farming (industrial refrigeration, perspectives & food science) was not such a thing there must have been region suppliers and variation i gess :E.

habitat is anther one (uk shop like upmarket ikea from the uk i gess)
 
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talmy

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i mean good as in more healthy / less additives / less fast-food_ish..

like, was there ever a time when the burgers were processed or formed on site as opposed to machine made with mystery ingredients then frozen then delivered.. etc.

I don't think so for McDonalds burgers (the ones in '59 were as miserable as those today), but the fries used to be prepared from fresh potatoes in the restaurants, which made them better although not better for you!

The earliest McDonalds, in the early '50s, made milkshakes from ice cream. But that was before there were McDonalds where I lived.
 

millerj123

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Mar 6, 2008
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Iomega, Palm, Matrox. I was burned four times by IBM software products being dropped as well.
Glad to see Iomega and Palm here, and maybe Handspring.

I'll add Osborne Computers to the list, although technically they announced the latest and greatest prior to selling their existing inventory, and crashed and burned.

For that matter, Corbin motors. They were selling the Sparrow, and wanted to go to production with the Merlin (the one I was waiting for), but took a detour with a convertible, and never got the Merlin off the ground.

We'll have to see if Elio Motors can pull theirs off.
 

maflynn

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May 3, 2009
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other than Apple, that managed to piss off a whole section of it's customers, like Apple has, with it's dearth of hardware updates?
There are many, history is rife with companies that faltered and/or decided not to update a given product, even though a segment of customers clamored for an update.

I think its unfair to single out Apple and infer they are the only ones because as noted by the large volume of replies that's simply not the case.

Has Apple sat on hardware updates to the Mac lines (iMac/Mini/MBP/Mac Pro) too long, yes. Its baffling for a hardware company to make such moves, but here we are in 2016 and the 15" MBP is still on Haswell, the Mac Pro has not been touched since its initial re-release some 3+ years ago. The mini's lack update is epic, given the popularity of that machine.
 
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orph

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id gess the macmin is held back as it was undercutting the imacs/macpros & if e-GPU's become a big thing then macmins will be way to close to macpro's thanks to badly threaded software a 4core i5/i7 with a good gpu is about as much as most software uses.
 
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